Elvado
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Post by Elvado on Nov 20, 2018 4:36:39 GMT -5
Imagine going back to the 80’s to cook up specious complaints...
The mind races...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2018 4:47:48 GMT -5
*Cook up...
Odd how certain groups are believed, and some are not. It seems to only come down to- what's your party affiliation?
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Elvado
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Post by Elvado on Nov 20, 2018 4:51:35 GMT -5
*Cook up... Odd how certain groups are believed, and some are not. It seems to only come down to- what's your party affiliation? That is a two way street my friend.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2018 4:52:17 GMT -5
*Cook up... Odd how certain groups are believed, and some are not. It seems to only come down to- what's your party affiliation? That is a two way street my friend. Not really, but whatever makes you feel better inside...
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Post by SSHoya on Nov 20, 2018 5:40:40 GMT -5
Certain posters excel at engaging in Trumpean distraction. Rather than address in any substantive way the merits of the argument regarding the constitutionality of Whitaker's appointment it is much easier to engage in an ad hominem attack on the plaintiffs of the litigation. (See e.g. Trump's response to Wallace's question about Admiral McRaven. Trump, the draftdodger, instead of responding to Wallace's questions about attacking a 37-year decorated Navy SEAL inaccurately asserts that he is a Clinton backer.)
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Post by SSHoya on Nov 20, 2018 6:34:20 GMT -5
Here is a contrary viewpoint on Whitaker's appointment. While not discussing the constitutional argument, it addresses the conflict of interest/ethical argument regarding recusal and whether there is confidence in the Mueller investigation. IMO, it fails for two reasons, one of which the author partially acknowledges. First, the comparison between Ginsberg's statements about Trump (which the author elevates into what he calls the "Ginsberg Precedent") and whether she should be recused in any matter arising before the SCT re: Trump is inapt. The conflict of interests rules of the SCT and the DOJ are wholly different and not similar in anyway. As a SCT justice, Ginsberg has limited ability to control what cases are granted cert since it takes a minimum of 4 justices to grant cert. OTOH, Whitaker, as acting AG can control what indictments Mueller can or cannot bring if he is allowed to supervise it. Moreover, Whitaker has stated he has sought guidance from PRAO (the Professional Responsibility Advisory Office at DOJ - some journalists have incorrectly stated that he has sought guidance from OPR (the Office of Professional Responsibility) (https://www.justice.gov/prao). Let see what PRAO advises Whitaker and whether he follows such guidance or engages in more breaking of norms if PRAO advises that he should recuse himself. Second, the author's citation to the CNN poll about the public confidence in Mueller's investigation does not take into account the steady stream of lies emanating from Trump, his enablers, and his Fox propaganda network which likely affects the results of that CNN poll. Accordingly, the author's citation to CNN's poll is irrelevant. (My ad hominem attack on Dunlap: 1) Dunlap joined the Air Force so he didn't really want to be in the military; and 2) He teaches at Duke!) www.lawfareblog.com/qualified-defense-matthew-whitaker
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2018 7:39:24 GMT -5
Imagine going back to the 80’s to cook up specious complaints... The mind races... Haha. It took you all of one post to swing right back to “Your hypocrisy is worse than mine!” Well done.
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Post by Elvado on Nov 20, 2018 7:54:56 GMT -5
Imagine going back to the 80’s to cook up specious complaints... The mind races... Haha. It took you all of one post to swing right back to “Your hypocrisy is worse than mine!” Well done. Not worse. Just equal. I admit my hypocrisy, you?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2018 8:26:06 GMT -5
Haha. It took you all of one post to swing right back to “Your hypocrisy is worse than mine!” Well done. Not worse. Just equal. "Both sides"
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Elvado
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Post by Elvado on Nov 20, 2018 8:35:54 GMT -5
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Post by guru on Nov 20, 2018 8:40:17 GMT -5
Imagine going back to the 80’s to cook up specious complaints... The mind races... Haha. It took you all of one post to swing right back to “Your hypocrisy is worse than mine!” Well done. Also, I think he was trying to say something along the line of “it boggles the mind”. But “the mind races” was as close as he could get. Let’s grade on the curve he clearly deserves and give him credit for it.
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Elvado
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Post by Elvado on Nov 20, 2018 8:41:56 GMT -5
Haha. It took you all of one post to swing right back to “Your hypocrisy is worse than mine!” Well done. Also, I think he was trying to say something along the line of “it boggles the mind”. But “the mind races” was as close as he could get. Let’s grade on the curve he clearly deserves and give him credit for it. Thanks for giving me the liberal “trophy for everyone” curve.
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Post by njhoya78 on Nov 20, 2018 8:59:20 GMT -5
Wait. You mean we don't get participation trophies here?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2018 9:14:59 GMT -5
Don't you remember? Democrats always blame others. It's you guys who are the self-proclaimed Party of Personal Responsibility.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2018 11:13:57 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2018 18:42:16 GMT -5
Recall someone saying something about weaponizing justice although they didn't offer any evidence in support of that opinion... Anyhoo, just the President firing the FBI director because of the "Russian thing" and then trying to have him prosecuted afterwords...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2018 12:14:07 GMT -5
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Post by SSHoya on Nov 23, 2018 15:38:41 GMT -5
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Post by SSHoya on Nov 25, 2018 10:46:39 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 19:36:34 GMT -5
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