Mass Shootings

[hoyarooter]

Jun 8, 2022 16:02:17 GMT -5 hoyajinx said:

Jun 8, 2022 15:09:26 GMT -5 SSHoya said:

Hiw effing stupid, hypocritical and corrupt are MAGA GOPers? Pretty damn stupid. (Any HoyaTalk "Republican" want to point me to any proposal for "banning guns"?).

During the hearing, Rep. Steve Scalise (La.), the No. 2 Republican in the House, argued against tightening gun restrictions in response to the recent mass shootings, arguing that airplanes were not banned after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

“Airplanes were used that day as the weapon to kill thousands of people and to inflict terror on our country,” Scalise said of the attacks. “There wasn’t a conversation about banning airplanes. There was a conversation about connecting the dots — how can we try to figure out if there are signs we can see to stop the next attack from happening?”

Although airplanes were not banned after the 2001 attacks, billions of dollars have been spent on aviation security since then. After the attacks, the federal government took charge of airport security, creating the Transportation Security Administration to oversee security at more than 400 airports.

Scalise himself was critically injured in 2017 when a gunman opened fire on Republican members of Congress during a baseball practice in Virginia.

SOURCE: Washington Post, June 8, 2022

As I’ve noted in a previous post, this line of “reasoning” is impossibly dumb. I cannot fathom how people think this is sound logic, and from the #2 ranking House Republican no less. What an embarrassment. The fact that this isn’t even close to the dumbest thing a Republican congressperson has said in the past 24 hours speaks to how ridiculous the whole party has become.

35-40% of Americans probably think he's a genius. And by the way, I really miss All in the Family.

[DanMcQ]

[hoopsmccan]

Jun 8, 2022 23:38:07 GMT -5 DanMcQ said:

Just stuff it all in the same Bill and each co-sponsor it. Or more likely, put it in the same Bill, no one vote for it and then each side can point at the other “they voted against a Bill on gun control”, “they voted against a Bill protecting our courts” etc. That way, the status quo prevails and nothing improves, but a bunch of Editeds get to keep their jobs and pretend to care.

hm

[DanMcQ]

[DanMcQ]

Each one of these is more idiotic than the last. Didn’t any of these people get an education?

[bluegray79]

I'm just praying that someone is following this up with at least one of these questions:

1) Do you agree that we have a serious problem with mass shootings, esp. in situations where 8-year olds are murdered in their classrooms?

2) What is YOUR solution?

3) Please explain. how your solution will assure the safety of our children and fellow citizens and how it will significantly lessen the likelihod of repeating what happened in Buffalo and Uvalde.

In the likely event of an obscenely self-righteous, self-serving, NRA obsequious b.s. answer, repeat #1.

[SSHoya]

Sounds like workplace violence.

www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/06/09/smithsburg-shooting-maryland/

[bluegray79]

It's happening already, isn't it? Or it's flat out already happened -- the headlines, the lead stories, the buzz -- we got Jan. 6 hearings, inflation, Ukraine, and somewhere down the page - Uvalde. Hearings on gun safety & violence are going on but all proposals are DOA in the Senate everyone says. What will come first -- the next godawful, unbearable mass shooting or the fading away of our sorrow and horror at Buffalo and Uvalde?

March for our lives - Washington, DC - Saturday (tomorrow) -- if you're able to attend, go!

www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/06/09/march-for-our-lives-protest-returns/

[SSHoya]

The opinions are probably in their final stages, so this column is an eleventh-hour plea to the justices to pause and consider — in light of the massacres in Uvalde, Tex., and Buffalo, and the nationwide epidemic of gun violence — the consequences of their ruling. The language they use matters enormously, not so much for the pending case but for the scope of what other gun regulations will be deemed permissible.

www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/06/10/supreme-court-second-amendment-brett-kavanaugh/

[SSHoya]

Baby steps . . . but steps at least. Reportedly, ten "Republican" senators are on board so it will not be filibustered. We shall see if this is true or not.

Under the tentative deal, a federal grant program would encourage states to establish “red flag” laws that allow authorities to keep guns away from people found by a judge to represent a potential threat to themselves or others, while federal criminal background checks for gun buyers under 21 would include a mandatory search of juvenile justice records for the first time.

www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/12/senate-gun-deal-framework/

[DanMcQ]

Agree, baby steps if it actually holds…

[DanMcQ]

[SSHoya]

The idea, ostensibly, is that a teacher with a gun could leap into action and disable or even kill a potential attacker. But research shows that in a shootout, even highly trained police officers are accurate less than half the time. There’s no reason to expect that a teacher with far less experience with guns could do better.

www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/06/09/ohio-bill-guns-for-teachers-republican-cowardice/

[hoya73]

Jun 13, 2022 4:50:44 GMT -5 SSHoya said:

The idea, ostensibly, is that a teacher with a gun could leap into action and disable or even kill a potential attacker. But research shows that in a shootout, even highly trained police officers are accurate less than half the time. There’s no reason to expect that a teacher with far less experience with guns could do better.

www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/06/09/ohio-bill-guns-for-teachers-republican-cowardice/

Dollars to donuts the most frequent use of guns issued to teachers would, sadly, be use in suicides.

[hoyajinx]

Jun 13, 2022 4:50:44 GMT -5 SSHoya said:

The idea, ostensibly, is that a teacher with a gun could leap into action and disable or even kill a potential attacker. But research shows that in a shootout, even highly trained police officers are accurate less than half the time. There’s no reason to expect that a teacher with far less experience with guns could do better.

www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/06/09/ohio-bill-guns-for-teachers-republican-cowardice/

I think it bears repeating: the very teachers that Republicans don’t trust to teach their kids trust them to defend their kids in a shootout with an armed intruder. This is insane.

[DanMcQ]

[DanMcQ]

[DanMcQ]

There's one political party that has allowed itself to be co-opted by these fascist terrorists. Time to own it and do something about it. If not, vote them all out.

[hoyarooter]

Jun 13, 2022 17:49:18 GMT -5 DanMcQ said:

There's one political party that has allowed itself to be co-opted by these fascist terrorists. Time to own it and do something about it. If not, vote them all out.

But gas prices, inflation, rampant illegal immigration (or so they claim).

[tashoya]

Jun 13, 2022 17:49:18 GMT -5 DanMcQ said:

There's one political party that has allowed itself to be co-opted by these fascist terrorists. Time to own it and do something about it. If not, vote them all out.

I couldn't agree more. The more difficult part for me personally is that I can't understand the thinking of those that don't agree.