blueeagle
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Post by blueeagle on May 27, 2022 13:38:20 GMT -5
And if more teachers are killed because of the chaos spawned by arming educators in an active shooter situation, it will be nothing more than just acceptable collateral damage for people who do not see the lunacy of the "more good guns to combat bad guns argument."
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Post by hoyajinx on May 27, 2022 13:53:17 GMT -5
And if more teachers are killed because of the chaos spawned by arming educators in an active shooter situation, it will be nothing more than just acceptable collateral damage for people who do not see the lunacy of the "more good guns to combat bad guns argument." These people have spent the last year demonizing teachers as groomers and indoctrinators. I think they’d view dead teachers as more than acceptable. Dead kids don’t even bother them enough to engage in an effort to curb mass shootings through legislation so dead teachers wouldn’t even rank on a list of top 100 concerns. |
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Post by SSHoya on May 27, 2022 13:54:21 GMT -5
And if more teachers are killed because of the chaos spawned by arming educators in an active shooter situation, it will be nothing more than just acceptable collateral damage for people who do not see the lunacy of the "more good guns to combat bad guns argument." These people have spent the last year demonizing teachers as groomers and indoctrinators. I think they’d view dead teachers as more than acceptable. Dead kids don’t even bother them enough to engage in an effort to curb mass shootings through legislation so dead teachers wouldn’t even rank on a list of top 100 concerns. But wait! They are the "pro-life" party! |
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Post by DanMcQ on May 27, 2022 14:01:07 GMT -5
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blueeagle
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Post by blueeagle on May 27, 2022 14:07:55 GMT -5
As horrible as the Holocaust was, it could have been worse.
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hoya73
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Post by hoya73 on May 27, 2022 15:09:10 GMT -5
And the pause before describing the shooting as "what happened". Gimme a break, call it what it was.
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Massholya
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Post by Massholya on May 27, 2022 15:34:38 GMT -5
I think what he is trying to say is that the teachers could have been teaching critical race theory before the gunman came in. How does anyone respect this d1ck. |
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SSHoya
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Post by SSHoya on May 27, 2022 15:46:39 GMT -5
I think what he is trying to say is that the teachers could have been teaching critical race theory before the gunman came in. How does anyone respect this d1ck. Prediction: the Edited wins reelection over Beto O' Rourke because, well, it's Texas. |
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SSHoya
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Post by SSHoya on May 27, 2022 17:15:44 GMT -5
No shock here. The owners of Daniel Defense, the manufacturer of the rifle apparently used in the massacre of 21 people at an elementary school in Uvalde, Tex., are deep-pocketed Republican donors, giving to candidates and committees at the federal and state level aligned against limits on access to assault rifles and other semiautomatic weapons. www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/05/27/texas-shooting-gun-manufacturer-donations/ |
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Post by tashoya on May 27, 2022 17:44:11 GMT -5
Whatever happened to buying the world a Coke? So, you're saying kill them slowly instead? |
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Post by tashoya on May 27, 2022 17:47:20 GMT -5
I think what he is trying to say is that the teachers could have been teaching critical race theory before the gunman came in. How does anyone respect this Edited. Prediction: the Edited wins reelection over Beto O' Rourke because, well, it's Texas. No doubt. |
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blueeagle
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Post by blueeagle on May 27, 2022 18:16:30 GMT -5
Whatever happened to buying the world a Coke? So, you're saying kill them slowly instead? Unless they have the coke with a mentos. The freshmaker. |
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Post by DanMcQ on May 27, 2022 20:37:59 GMT -5
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Post by tashoya on May 27, 2022 23:43:06 GMT -5
Not a peep from Hoyatalk "Republicans." I'm so surprised. Where are you spineless sycoophants?
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SSHoya
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Post by SSHoya on May 28, 2022 5:21:34 GMT -5
This is tragic if this was the result of a bureaucratic turf war. Even the COP of Uvalde would have been a better on scene commander. Was the part-time Uvalde SWAT team even deployed? I disagree with the "policing experts" who say the school district chief should have been in charge. He may know the protocols but lacks the personnel to effectively engage. It sounds like the CBP BORTAC officer may have engaged despite the school district chief's decision. Federal law enforcement often gets accused of "bigfooting" state and local law enforcement and sometimes that criticism is warranted. IMO, the Chief of a six person police force should almost never be the on scene commander of an active mass shooting if other LEOs are available. The town where I live has a six person police force. It has executed MOUs with other local police forces for assistance and I have no doubt that the State Police would be in charge if such an incident occurrrd at our local elementary school. The FBI Field Office and nearest Resident Agency are both too far away. The police response to the Texas school massacre was led by the chief of a six-officer police department that oversees about eight schools. The first officers on the scene were from the Uvalde city police force, which has a part-time SWAT team and about 40 officers on the payroll Policing experts said it makes sense that the school police chief was in charge, given that it was his campus and he knows the safety protocols. www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/05/27/uvalde-police-school-chief/ |
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hoyajinx
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Post by hoyajinx on May 28, 2022 6:06:18 GMT -5
Quote after quote I’m reading from gun advocates compare guns to cars or planes or knives, etc. with ramblings such as “people run over people with cars and no one is calling to ban them” or “people who want to hurt someone will. Look at people who stab other people.” The idiocy of these arguments can’t be overstated. The main purpose of a car is for travel. Injuring a person is incidental to its purpose. The main purpose of a plane is, again, for travel and not to fly into buildings. Guns are created with the explicit purpose of injuring or killing or threatening to injure or kill. Death is not incidental to their purpose. With respect to knives or other things that people use to injure one another, yes, it happens. But no other implement does it with the speed and efficacy of a gun. There is a reason we aren’t still fighting land wars with swords or the reason the expression “don’t bring a knife to gun a fight” exists. I can’t believe people actually think they’re making intelligent, unimpeachable arguments when offering this nonsense. But, as we’ve already established, sound, logical reasoning is not the forte of the Republican party. Edit: Just came across this article after writing this. Even an executive of a gun lobby offers these ridiculous arguments confidently. www.thedailybeast.com/newsmax-hosts-gun-lobbyist-who-blames-uvalde-shooting-on-gun-control |
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Post by SSHoya on May 28, 2022 6:29:10 GMT -5
Abbott's statement that long guns have been around for 100 years went unchallenged as being irrelevant since it ignores the development and availability of semi-automatic rifles to civilians. In 1994, President Bill Clinton signed an assault-weapons ban, which banned the AR-15 and other similar semiautomatic rifles. After its ban, mass shootings were down in the decade that followed, in comparison to the decade before (1984-94) and the one after (2004-14), NPR reported in 2018 www.npr.org/2022/05/26/1101274322/uvalde-ar-15-style-rifle-history-shooter-mass-shooting |
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Post by DanMcQ on May 28, 2022 6:56:43 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on May 28, 2022 7:00:06 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on May 28, 2022 7:04:00 GMT -5
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