iowa80
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Post by iowa80 on Dec 1, 2021 20:01:23 GMT -5
Do you ever take someone from the DMV to build a pipeline when you think someone else would clearly be a better player? How does that math work, do our coaches think that way and, if not, should they? This depends on the criteria for "clearly be a better player." As someone who is very distressed about our (lack of) DMV recruiting, I would prefer a decent, three-star coachable DMV player from a winning program who would likely stick around to a one and done from someplace else. I see no reason to recruit three to four year bench warmers, but there is a lot to be said for local, likely four-year players who will grow into their positions as future starters--as used to be the case. They provide a good deal of ballast to counter the constant turnover, and allow us to ease into recruiting high-end local players. I would have no problem if the roster was basically full of DMV's supplemented by 2-3 others. We need that identity and fan base. I should add that my "dream" DMV recruit is someone like Markel Starks. GP MIN FG% 3P% FT% REB AST BLK STL PF TO PTS 2013-14 33 37.0 41.2 32.6 87.0 2.3 4.1 0.1 0.9 2.4 2.3 17.3 2012-13 32 34.1 45.7 41.7 73.1 1.8 3.0 0.1 1.3 2.2 2.0 12.8 2011-12 31 24.4 45.5 36.7 69.7 1.6 1.6 0.1 0.6 1.9 1.4 7.1 2010-11 30 9.7 28.3 25.7 60.0 0.6 0.7 0.0 0.3 1.1 0.6 1.5 Still possible today? Let's try to find out.
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dchoya72
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Post by dchoya72 on Dec 5, 2021 17:28:15 GMT -5
We need sizable talent! Real, ready to play, can get their own shot and body-up talent. That would take a lot of pressure off the talent we have now. Today we were overwhelmed inside!! Those SC Bigs have eaten well, and are part of the clean plate club!!
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Post by eastcoastteddy58 on Dec 5, 2021 21:18:45 GMT -5
We need sizable talent! Real, ready to play, can get their own shot and body-up talent. That would take a lot of pressure off the talent we have now. Today we were overwhelmed inside!! Those SC Bigs have eaten well, and are part of the clean plate club!! St Joe's was bigger as well, PE said it best patience. Our guys need to get stronger and fasters, this is why Tre King was such a lost!
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Post by blazers44 on Dec 6, 2021 6:25:42 GMT -5
We need sizable talent! Real, ready to play, can get their own shot and body-up talent. That would take a lot of pressure off the talent we have now. Today we were overwhelmed inside!! Those SC Bigs have eaten well, and are part of the clean plate club!! St Joe's was bigger as well, PE said it best patience. Our guys need to get stronger and fasters, this is why Tre King was such a lost! we’re tired of being patient. He’s in year 5. we should be a top 20 team not being patient another 2-3 yrs
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justsaying
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Post by justsaying on Dec 6, 2021 10:33:33 GMT -5
St Joe's was bigger as well, PE said it best patience. Our guys need to get stronger and fasters, this is why Tre King was such a lost! we’re tired of being patient. He’s in year 5. we should be a top 20 team not being patient another 2-3 yrs When he got to the point of having experienced players under his system he won the BIG EAST CHAMPOIONSHIP (how many of the experienced coached in the BE can say that). Now we have "basically" a team of inexperience players. It's kind of selectively timed to load up at a time of obvious inexperience to try to make a point. It amazing to believe that one can take such a loaded young group and consistently win without the growing pains. Else you know nothing about experience versus youth in sports. Most of our talent on this team is tied up in youth. Do we want to lose, no. What is being discussed here is expectations of a given roster. We "hope" for a higher than "normal" growth curve. And better yet tell us your expectations when Pickett, Blair, and Bile played their final game (at that very moment) and moved on to attempt to fulfill their NBA dreams and even knowing we have a very good group of "freshmen" coming in. People that know the game realized at that moment we are going to take some lumps this season (back then) and not after a time some losses this season. Coach said be patience for those that "do not know the game" not for those who know the game. He took two of his original recruits and turned them into champions.
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Post by TB on Dec 6, 2021 11:09:05 GMT -5
Bravo 'Just Saying' Bravo!!!
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hoyazeke
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Post by hoyazeke on Dec 6, 2021 12:45:18 GMT -5
we’re tired of being patient. He’s in year 5. we should be a top 20 team not being patient another 2-3 yrs When he got to the point of having experienced players under his system he won the BIG EAST CHAMPOIONSHIP (how many of the experienced coached in the BE can say that). Now we have "basically" a team of inexperience players. It's kind of selectively timed to load up at a time of obvious inexperience to try to make a point. It amazing to believe that one can take such a loaded young group and consistently win without the growing pains. Else you know nothing about experience versus youth in sports. Most of our talent on this team is tied up in youth. Do we want to lose, no. What is being discussed here is expectations of a given roster. We "hope" for a higher than "normal" growth curve. And better yet tell us your expectations when Pickett, Blair, and Bile played their final game (at that very moment) and moved on to attempt to fulfill their NBA dreams and even knowing we have a very good group of "freshmen" coming in. People that know the game realized at that moment we are going to take some lumps this season (back then) and not after a time some losses this season. Coach said be patience for those that "do not know the game" not for those who know the game. He took two of his original recruits and turned them into champions. JS I truly believe that most of the board either hates Ewing to the point of not caring about the youth or have never played organized sports. Kentucky struggles with this and they have 5* kids up and down the lineup. I know people don't want patience but the real key to whether Ewing needs to be let go will not come until February. If he doesn't have the freshmen and sophomores looking like a more cohesive team then I will be on team fire Ewing. It's just hard to explain to the average Joe fan why freshmen don't get what is needed to be great collegiate players. They don't have upperclassmen to watch and when you are on the court you will do what has worked for the last 5+yrs. Put your head down and out-athlete your opponent. It's gonna take some time for the team to learn what works on this level.
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hoyaboya
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Post by hoyaboya on Dec 7, 2021 17:01:05 GMT -5
Bryce Lindsay (2022) Height: 6’3 HS: Bishop Walsh AAU: Team Melo Position: Point Guard Calling Card: Playmaking Current Offers: Texas A&M, Oklahoma State, Xavier, Marquette, Virginia Tech, Georgetown twitter.com/TeamMe7oEYBLHyattsville, MD -- Class of 2022 point guard Bryce Lindsay is nearing a decision with new schools entering the mix. As of now the scoring guard plans on committing in early January as he begins to schedule more visits. “There's more schools getting involved like Louisville, Texas A&M, DePaul, and Virginia. Right now Louisville, Pitt and Depaul are the main schools.” 247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/Article/Basketball-recruiting-Bryce-Lindsay-Depaul-Louisville-Pitt--177648696/
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2021 12:41:32 GMT -5
Says he’s planning on visiting in January.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2021 12:43:01 GMT -5
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prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Dec 9, 2021 12:48:05 GMT -5
Another 6’8” who dribbles like a guard! Remember when we had guards who couldn’t dribble like that?
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dchoya72
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Post by dchoya72 on Dec 9, 2021 18:52:35 GMT -5
He'd be welcome.
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calhoya
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Post by calhoya on Dec 9, 2021 19:08:57 GMT -5
Yes he’d be great and from the video its clear he already has experience playing in an empty gym!
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justsaying
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Post by justsaying on Dec 10, 2021 12:57:26 GMT -5
Yes he’d be great and from the video its clear he already has experience playing in an empty gym! And what section were you in last game?
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calhoya
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Post by calhoya on Dec 10, 2021 14:17:42 GMT -5
Yes he’d be great and from the video its clear he already has experience playing in an empty gym! And what section were you in last game? My section is over 2,000 miles away but I fly back for two games a year and will let you know where I will be sitting.
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Post by x-centercourt400s on Dec 10, 2021 23:17:39 GMT -5
And what section were you in last game? My section is over 2,000 miles away but I fly back for two games a year and will let you know where I will be sitting. I think the point is that it gets tiresome to hear seemingly endless complaints about low attendance at games from fans who don't regularly attend themselves. Thousands of us do attend regularly, yet we get painted with the same "empty gym" comments as those who can't be bothered to get to an 8:30 pm start vs UMBC, for example. Frustrating.
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prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Dec 11, 2021 1:47:11 GMT -5
My section is over 2,000 miles away but I fly back for two games a year and will let you know where I will be sitting. I think the point is that it gets tiresome to hear seemingly endless complaints about low attendance at games from fans who don't regularly attend themselves. Thousands of us do attend regularly, yet we get painted with the same "empty gym" comments as those who can't be bothered to get to an 8:30 pm start vs UMBC, for example. Frustrating. Stop whining. Consider yourself lucky that you are within driving distance. The rest of Hoya Nation is not going to fly in for every game. Btw, and if one is to believe Austin Freeman, it’s more like 500, plus media and arena staff.
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Post by x-centercourt400s on Dec 11, 2021 10:55:31 GMT -5
I think the point is that it gets tiresome to hear seemingly endless complaints about low attendance at games from fans who don't regularly attend themselves. Thousands of us do attend regularly, yet we get painted with the same "empty gym" comments as those who can't be bothered to get to an 8:30 pm start vs UMBC, for example. Frustrating. Stop whining. Consider yourself lucky that you are within driving distance. The rest of Hoya Nation is not going to fly in for every game. Btw, and if one is to believe Austin Freeman, it’s more like 500, plus media and arena staff. Man, you are so insufferable. Lay off the personal attacks and let people discuss things, ok?
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calhoya
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Post by calhoya on Dec 11, 2021 12:00:21 GMT -5
My section is over 2,000 miles away but I fly back for two games a year and will let you know where I will be sitting. I think the point is that it gets tiresome to hear seemingly endless complaints about low attendance at games from fans who don't regularly attend themselves. Thousands of us do attend regularly, yet we get painted with the same "empty gym" comments as those who can't be bothered to get to an 8:30 pm start vs UMBC, for example. Frustrating. Understand your point but it is equally frustrating for those of us who have contributed money to the program and the school for years despite living across the country and seeing the lack of support for the program as a result of the recent slide. So for those of you who go to every game—great! To the school—-when i see the empty arenas it makes me feel that something drastic has to be done to increase the attendance and justify the efforts of the boosters who give time or ,money or both. Winning will help but even more would be fixing the oft-mentioned failure of the school to engage in efforts to generate some interest so more will care.
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prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Dec 11, 2021 12:03:02 GMT -5
Stop whining. Consider yourself lucky that you are within driving distance. The rest of Hoya Nation is not going to fly in for every game. Btw, and if one is to believe Austin Freeman, it’s more like 500, plus media and arena staff. Man, you are so insufferable. Lay off the personal attacks and let people discuss things, ok? So you attack first and complain when it comes back to you? Btw, how’s the crowd? More home fans?
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