Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2020 12:56:45 GMT -5
It sure sounds like we're gonna get another guard, whether it's Aminu or another kid.
I'm still thinking Emareyon McDonald is that kid if Aminu passes. But that's a total guess.
Just seems like we showed him love early, and now he has a chance to make a much bigger name for himself at the top school in LA. He's already listed a 4-star on ESPN (#1 in LA) and a Top 250 kid on 24/7 without even playing last year.
|
|
hoyainla
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Suspended
Posts: 4,719
|
Post by hoyainla on Oct 12, 2020 15:14:42 GMT -5
He saw what's happened with his brothers and is taking the money. Can't say I blame him.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2020 16:36:23 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by hoyanewyorka on Oct 23, 2020 6:32:46 GMT -5
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2020 14:18:48 GMT -5
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2020 11:29:11 GMT -5
Bryson Warren
Along with Blocker, Warren is another Arkansas native who performed well this weekend. In my first time seeing him, I quickly noticed his high confidence level in scoring from different ranges on the floor. He was adept at creating space for his pullup and has good lift on his jumper to get his shot off. The 6-foot-2, 160-pound combo guard's skillset has caught the eyes of high major programs as the likes of Arkansas, Auburn, Georgetown, Oklahoma State, Ole Miss, St. John's, Texas A&M, and Vanderbilt have already come along with offers.
|
|
|
Post by snaxa on Oct 30, 2020 10:48:15 GMT -5
|
|
RBHoya
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Posts: 4,143
|
Post by RBHoya on Oct 30, 2020 14:52:18 GMT -5
Recent highlights: IMHO, he's a good guy to stay in touch with. I know there's a contingent that's eager to cry "But we don't have any more scholarships!" but that type of thinking is so passe in the modern era. Guys transfer ALL the time, and it's only going to get worse when the mandatory redshirt rule is lifted (or is de facto lifted through the proliferation of waivers). Like it or not, the transfer culture is here to stay, and will probably only get worse. So you can no longer think "OK I have 4 graduating seniors, I want to land 4 kids in the next recruiting class." It's just not going to be that cut and dry anymore. Of course, you might supplement with inbound transfers too, but it makes sense to keep your options open with rising seniors even if there are no obvious spots open at the moment. I suspect that is what we're doing with Harrison. If one of the guards that we brought in last year doesn't pan out, or one of the guards that we have committed changes his mind, and he's still not committed in the spring and has had a nice senior year, we may make a big push for him. Honestly it's how our 2020 class came together. You just never know where things may go and what needs you may have to fill, so keep your options open just in case.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2020 15:08:34 GMT -5
Recent highlights: IMHO, he's a good guy to stay in touch with. I know there's a contingent that's eager to cry "But we don't have any more scholarships!" but that type of thinking is so passe in the modern era. Guys transfer ALL the time, and it's only going to get worse when the mandatory redshirt rule is lifted (or is de facto lifted through the proliferation of waivers). Like it or not, the transfer culture is here to stay, and will probably only get worse. So you can no longer think "OK I have 4 graduating seniors, I want to land 4 kids in the next recruiting class." It's just not going to be that cut and dry anymore. Of course, you might supplement with inbound transfers too, but it makes sense to keep your options open with rising seniors even if there are no obvious spots open at the moment. I suspect that is what we're doing with Harrison. If one of the guards that we brought in last year doesn't pan out, or one of the guards that we have committed changes his mind, and he's still not committed in the spring and has had a nice senior year, we may make a big push for him. Honestly it's how our 2020 class came together. You just never know where things may go and what needs you may have to fill, so keep your options open just in case. So basically you're saying keep issuing out scholarships in hopes that someone will transer, right? Also, you're saying ignore our scholarship totals and just keep recruiting and say to the kids you're on the team when a scholarship open up, right? I mean how is this thing you'e talking is supposed to work? I just don't get it. I think I asked you this a month ago and the answers you gave just wasn't clear enough for me or I must be too dumb to understand what you're saying. Help me one more time to understand please.
|
|
RBHoya
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Posts: 4,143
|
Post by RBHoya on Oct 30, 2020 17:13:03 GMT -5
Recent highlights: IMHO, he's a good guy to stay in touch with. I know there's a contingent that's eager to cry "But we don't have any more scholarships!" but that type of thinking is so passe in the modern era. Guys transfer ALL the time, and it's only going to get worse when the mandatory redshirt rule is lifted (or is de facto lifted through the proliferation of waivers). Like it or not, the transfer culture is here to stay, and will probably only get worse. So you can no longer think "OK I have 4 graduating seniors, I want to land 4 kids in the next recruiting class." It's just not going to be that cut and dry anymore. Of course, you might supplement with inbound transfers too, but it makes sense to keep your options open with rising seniors even if there are no obvious spots open at the moment. I suspect that is what we're doing with Harrison. If one of the guards that we brought in last year doesn't pan out, or one of the guards that we have committed changes his mind, and he's still not committed in the spring and has had a nice senior year, we may make a big push for him. Honestly it's how our 2020 class came together. You just never know where things may go and what needs you may have to fill, so keep your options open just in case. So basically you're saying keep issuing out scholarships in hopes that someone will transer, right? Also, you're saying ignore our scholarship totals and just keep recruiting and say to the kids you're on the team when a scholarship open up, right? I mean how is this thing you'e talking is supposed to work? I just don't get it. I think I asked you this a month ago and the answers you gave just wasn't clear enough for me or I must be too dumb to understand what you're saying. Help me one more time to understand please. Not necessarily keep issuing scholarships in hopes that someone transfers. In some rare cases you might actually offer and push for a kid beyond the scholarship maximum, which we're doing for Aminu Mohammed right now. If Baldwin or Holmgren called us and told us they wanted to come it'd be the same (they won't). But a kid like Harrison does not yet have an offer even though he is "hearing from us a lot." There may be some other kids who got offers from us previously who we're not actively pushing hard for but we're still staying in touch with to some degree and could make a push for later if needed. I guess the point is, it's negligent for a coaching staff to think that it'll be as clean cut as 4 guys graduate and 4 new guys come in. You have to expect the unexpected and keep some options open, not knowing exactly what you'll need down the line. If you wait until that unexpected transfer or roster attrition actually occurs, it's probably too late to build a relationship with the player and someone else who recruited him hard all along will win him over. Look at where we were around this time last year. We thought we'd have a couple guys graduating (Jagan, Allen) and 3 new guys coming in--Terrence Williams, D. Harris and Sibley. Everything seemed stable. But since then, spots opened up for new additions including Beard, Clark, J. Harris, Bile, Berger and Holloway. Now obviously you're not necessarily going to have that much attrition every year, but you'll probably have some. So it's smart to stay in contact with a few kids who may wait out a decision. If room opens up, great, you're not starting from square one in trying to build a relationship with a recruit. If a spot doesn't open up, no harm no foul. It's really just contingency planning. It's harder than ever to predict what your roster will look like in 6-8 months, so keep a few irons in the fire in case you have a need that's not readily obvious at present.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2020 19:30:52 GMT -5
So basically you're saying keep issuing out scholarships in hopes that someone will transer, right? Also, you're saying ignore our scholarship totals and just keep recruiting and say to the kids you're on the team when a scholarship open up, right? I mean how is this thing you'e talking is supposed to work? I just don't get it. I think I asked you this a month ago and the answers you gave just wasn't clear enough for me or I must be too dumb to understand what you're saying. Help me one more time to understand please. Not necessarily keep issuing scholarships in hopes that someone transfers. In some rare cases you might actually offer and push for a kid beyond the scholarship maximum, which we're doing for Aminu Mohammed right now. If Baldwin or Holmgren called us and told us they wanted to come it'd be the same (they won't). But a kid like Harrison does not yet have an offer even though he is "hearing from us a lot." There may be some other kids who got offers from us previously who we're not actively pushing hard for but we're still staying in touch with to some degree and could make a push for later if needed. I guess the point is, it's negligent for a coaching staff to think that it'll be as clean cut as 4 guys graduate and 4 new guys come in. You have to expect the unexpected and keep some options open, not knowing exactly what you'll need down the line. If you wait until that unexpected transfer or roster attrition actually occurs, it's probably too late to build a relationship with the player and someone else who recruited him hard all along will win him over. Look at where we were around this time last year. We thought we'd have a couple guys graduating (Jagan, Allen) and 3 new guys coming in--Terrence Williams, D. Harris and Sibley. Everything seemed stable. But since then, spots opened up for new additions including Beard, Clark, J. Harris, Bile, Berger and Holloway. Now obviously you're not necessarily going to have that much attrition every year, but you'll probably have some. So it's smart to stay in contact with a few kids who may wait out a decision. If room opens up, great, you're not starting from square one in trying to build a relationship with a recruit. If a spot doesn't open up, no harm no foul. It's really just contingency planning. It's harder than ever to predict what your roster will look like in 6-8 months, so keep a few irons in the fire in case you have a need that's not readily obvious at present. Okay, now I think I finally understand what you're saying. You are saying, stay in touch with the players regardless of how many or if any scholarships you have remaining. Right? Because at any given moment, a kid might walk off the team, get thrown off the team or whatever is the reason why you stay in touch with a player. Right? The problem I see is most kids are going to already have pledged for other schools when these things usually occur and coaches would have to wait until the following year to fill positions. Say for example, the season starts and in the middle of the season, one of the freshmen decides to transfer, would Ahmad Harrison be available for us by this time? I don't know but I think he would have already chosen his school. We would be left scrambling to get the second and third tier players who have not pledged for a school as of yet.
|
|
LCPolo18
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Posts: 4,406
|
Post by LCPolo18 on Oct 31, 2020 19:29:13 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by hoyanewyorka on Nov 4, 2020 6:58:04 GMT -5
|
|
LCPolo18
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Posts: 4,406
|
Post by LCPolo18 on Nov 6, 2020 22:19:58 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by hoyanewyorka on Nov 7, 2020 9:41:20 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by hoyanewyorka on Nov 7, 2020 9:41:56 GMT -5
|
|
hoyas315
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Posts: 3,149
|
Post by hoyas315 on Nov 9, 2020 18:23:19 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by hoyanewyorka on Nov 12, 2020 7:16:59 GMT -5
|
|
LCPolo18
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Posts: 4,406
|
Post by LCPolo18 on Nov 12, 2020 17:26:41 GMT -5
Georgetown: “Coach Louis Orr calls me about every day. He talks to me, asks me how my family is, and he spoke to my mother and father a couple times. It means a lot because if they can communicate with my parents, that's just another boost for them because my parents have a part in where I go. I'm also pretty cool with one of the commits there, Jordan Riley. He wanted to play me again this year because he didn't like what happened last year, when I made that half court game winner against his team. We haven't got to talk about college or school together yet but our games can definitely compliment each other because we are both New York guards and we can both pass, shoot, and score. He would kind of be another extension of me on the court. Their message to me was that Mac just left and they don't have any returning guards in my class, so I can come in and fill that role. They have a big man in my class, and Jordan Riley so our class would be pretty stacked.”
|
|
bostonfan
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Posts: 2,532
|
Post by bostonfan on Nov 13, 2020 8:40:49 GMT -5
Georgetown: “Coach Louis Orr calls me about every day. He talks to me, asks me how my family is, and he spoke to my mother and father a couple times. It means a lot because if they can communicate with my parents, that's just another boost for them because my parents have a part in where I go. I'm also pretty cool with one of the commits there, Jordan Riley. He wanted to play me again this year because he didn't like what happened last year, when I made that half court game winner against his team. We haven't got to talk about college or school together yet but our games can definitely compliment each other because we are both New York guards and we can both pass, shoot, and score. He would kind of be another extension of me on the court. Their message to me was that Mac just left and they don't have any returning guards in my class, so I can come in and fill that role. They have a big man in my class, and Jordan Riley so our class would be pretty stacked.” Very encouraging interview with the young man. More than the usual recruiting responses that a lot of the young kids give for every school they are involved with. Clearly the Hoyas are very involved with this young man. With him and Aminu still being pursued, you have to think the staff has a plan for how the scholarships will work out for next year.
|
|