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Post by hoyanewyorka on Jul 27, 2020 14:15:05 GMT -5
As for Billingsley's game, he's very smooth. If there was one word I'd use to describe him, it would be smooth. He's not great in any one particular area, but he's a very good finisher around the rack and out of the high post. He's an alright ball handler and three point shooter (32%, I believe), but he does force some plays. He had around 3TO's per game in his last season and that seems to be because he wasn't being super strong with the ball or was trying to force a pass that wasn't there. I assume that would goo down with his usage rate in college, but it's something to look for. He also does get caught being out of control every so often, and people catch him off guard for either a steal or a charge. He also gets caught napping defensively sometimes, more so when he's not in position for a steal, and that can lead to some easy buckets. His game reminds me a lot of Rui Hachimura. Both can shoot the three when needed but are best used in the high post. Both are very smooth players and can get buckets in multiple different ways, from that high post area. I like Billingsley's ability to dribble and I think if he can get used to playing within the flow of an offense (forcing it every once in a while is fine) and can be a more active defender, he's a really good player. I'd like to see a little more from his three-point jumper as he said he started the season really cold, but I think his form shows that it's clearly a weapon if needed. He's a very good athlete, he can handle the ball and has a nice looking jumper. He's a very good addition to this team and I think he would be able to produce from day one, but he's a guy who could make a serious jump at any point. If he starts to play within himself, works on his three point jumper, and gets a little stronger (both inside and with the ball) he'd be an excellent player. I like his game quite a bit. Here's the video where I got most of this information from, it doesn't have a ton of views on youtube, but I thought it was pretty well done. |
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Post by BeantownHoya on Jul 27, 2020 14:18:51 GMT -5
As for Billingsley's game, he's very smooth. If there was one word I'd use to describe him, it would be smooth. He's not great in any one particular area, but he's a very good finisher around the rack and out of the high post. He's an alright ball handler and three point shooter (32%, I believe), but he does force some plays. He had around 3TO's per game in his last season and that seems to be because he wasn't being super strong with the ball or was trying to force a pass that wasn't there. I assume that would goo down with his usage rate in college, but it's something to look for. He also does get caught being out of control every so often, and people catch him off guard for either a steal or a charge. He also gets caught napping defensively sometimes, more so when he's not in position for a steal, and that can lead to some easy buckets. His game reminds me a lot of Rui Hachimura. Both can shoot the three when needed but are best used in the high post. Both are very smooth players and can get buckets in multiple different ways, from that high post area. I like Billingsley's ability to dribble and I think if he can get used to playing within the flow of an offense (forcing it every once in a while is fine) and can be a more active defender, he's a really good player. I'd like to see a little more from his three-point jumper as he said he started the season really cold, but I think his form shows that it's clearly a weapon if needed. He's a very good athlete, he can handle the ball and has a nice looking jumper. He's a very good addition to this team and I think he would be able to produce from day one, but he's a guy who could make a serious jump at any point. If he starts to play within himself, works on his three point jumper, and gets a little stronger (both inside and with the ball) he'd be an excellent player. I like his game quite a bit. Here's the video where I got most of this information from, it doesn't have a ton of views on youtube, but I thought it was pretty well done. I will take an 85.7% chance! |
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Post by bornhoya on Jul 27, 2020 14:26:54 GMT -5
Doesn’t Adams commit this week too
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Jul 27, 2020 14:29:04 GMT -5
Another reason securing Billingsley now besides getting another long athletic upside prospect, is that the staff would now be able to go Big Game hunting for a Chet Holmgren, Efton Reid, or Ryan Mutombo. Having secured the most pressing needs, then can be more selective.
I also wonder how active the staff will be in the PG market. Don't get me wrong, if Collins, Brantley or Smith want to commit, I'm sure the staff would happily take them considering their talent level and all the background work that has already been laid down. I do wonder if the staff pursues any new PG's with Carey, Harris, Berger, and Beard in the fold for 2021.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Jul 27, 2020 14:29:57 GMT -5
Doesn’t Adams commit this week too Reportedly on Friday. I hear he is a Texas lean. At least that is where the most noise is coming from. |
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Post by trillesthoya on Jul 27, 2020 14:35:19 GMT -5
Doesn’t Adams commit this week too Reportedly on Friday. I hear he is a Texas lean. At least that is where the most noise is coming from. He has received several crystal balls for Kansas this morning. Kind of came out of nowhere, but that might explain the expedited commitment. Got the call he wanted and is ready to pull the trigger immediately. |
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Post by madhoya on Jul 27, 2020 14:40:49 GMT -5
Doesn’t Adams commit this week too Reportedly on Friday. I hear he is a Texas lean. At least that is where the most noise is coming from. The CB prediction: points to Kansas... |
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Jul 27, 2020 14:51:04 GMT -5
Reportedly on Friday. I hear he is a Texas lean. At least that is where the most noise is coming from. The CB prediction: points to Kansas... We'll see! All I hear is that Texas is the most active recently. He could end up at Kansas as that maybe he's dream school. The industry pickers typically have no real insight and are just a follow the leader pack mentality. |
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Post by blueandgray on Jul 27, 2020 15:19:44 GMT -5
As for Billingsley's game, he's very smooth. If there was one word I'd use to describe him, it would be smooth. He's not great in any one particular area, but he's a very good finisher around the rack and out of the high post. He's an alright ball handler and three point shooter (32%, I believe), but he does force some plays. He had around 3TO's per game in his last season and that seems to be because he wasn't being super strong with the ball or was trying to force a pass that wasn't there. I assume that would goo down with his usage rate in college, but it's something to look for. He also does get caught being out of control every so often, and people catch him off guard for either a steal or a charge. He also gets caught napping defensively sometimes, more so when he's not in position for a steal, and that can lead to some easy buckets. His game reminds me a lot of Rui Hachimura. Both can shoot the three when needed but are best used in the high post. Both are very smooth players and can get buckets in multiple different ways, from that high post area. I like Billingsley's ability to dribble and I think if he can get used to playing within the flow of an offense (forcing it every once in a while is fine) and can be a more active defender, he's a really good player. I'd like to see a little more from his three-point jumper as he said he started the season really cold, but I think his form shows that it's clearly a weapon if needed. He's a very good athlete, he can handle the ball and has a nice looking jumper. He's a very good addition to this team and I think he would be able to produce from day one, but he's a guy who could make a serious jump at any point. If he starts to play within himself, works on his three point jumper, and gets a little stronger (both inside and with the ball) he'd be an excellent player. I like his game quite a bit. Here's the video where I got most of this information from, it doesn't have a ton of views on youtube, but I thought it was pretty well done. Definitely has a smooth game and a better than average handle for a guy his size and build. Inside....he reminds me a lot of Noah Dickerson. |
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Post by HoyaRejuveNation85 on Jul 27, 2020 15:21:07 GMT -5
Very good interview. Thanks, mdtd. Billingsley sounds like an intelligent kid. I liked how he handled questions regarding his turnovers, forcing the action, etc. Very mature and analytical. Gives you confidence he will work on his game.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jul 27, 2020 15:31:51 GMT -5
I think this is still the rule: Men's basketball is limited to 13 "counters" (i.e., either a recruited athlete or someone who receives athletic aid). Ryan Mutombo is a "counter" because we have recruited him so whether his father can afford Georgetown's exorbitant tuition, room and board is not relevant to whether there's slot for him if he is a "counter." I think if someone was recruited for athletic ability, they become a counter regardless of whether aid is awarded or not. Someone correct me if I have this wrong. My only reference point is Drummond at UConn - which was back in 2011 so the rule may have been changed. UConn had commitments from 11 players but only 10 scholarships allowed (the stolen laptop debacle?). Drummond ended up giving up his scholarship and played as a walk-on. The University stated that the NCAA had indicated that "a recruited player can pay his own way [and not be counted against scholarship limits] as long as any and all aid received is non-institutional". So the claim was that Drummond's family paid his freshman year (although Calhoun was involved, so . . .) |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2020 15:35:25 GMT -5
I think this is still the rule: Men's basketball is limited to 13 "counters" (i.e., either a recruited athlete or someone who receives athletic aid). Ryan Mutombo is a "counter" because we have recruited him so whether his father can afford Georgetown's exorbitant tuition, room and board is not relevant to whether there's slot for him if he is a "counter." I think if someone was recruited for athletic ability, they become a counter regardless of whether aid is awarded or not. Someone correct me if I have this wrong. My only reference point is Drummond at UConn - which was back in 2011 so the rule may have been changed. UConn had commitments from 11 players but only 10 scholarships allowed (the stolen laptop debacle?). Drummond ended up giving up his scholarship and played as a walk-on. The University stated that the NCAA had indicated that "a recruited player can pay his own way [and not be counted against scholarship limits] as long as any and all aid received is non-institutional". So the claim was that Drummond's family paid his freshman year (although Calhoun was involved, so . . .) |
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Post by madhoya on Jul 27, 2020 16:01:36 GMT -5
My only reference point is Drummond at UConn - which was back in 2011 so the rule may have been changed. UConn had commitments from 11 players but only 10 scholarships allowed (the stolen laptop debacle?). Drummond ended up giving up his scholarship and played as a walk-on. The University stated that the NCAA had indicated that "a recruited player can pay his own way [and not be counted against scholarship limits] as long as any and all aid received is non-institutional". So the claim was that Drummond's family paid his freshman year (although Calhoun was involved, so . . .) Doug McDermott walked on his last year to open up a scholarship...👌🏼 |
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Post by RBHoya on Jul 27, 2020 18:06:07 GMT -5
Another reason securing Billingsley now besides getting another long athletic upside prospect, is that the staff would now be able to go Big Game hunting for a Chet Holmgren, Efton Reid, or Ryan Mutombo. Having secured the most pressing needs, then can be more selective. I also wonder how active the staff will be in the PG market. Don't get me wrong, if Collins, Brantley or Smith want to commit, I'm sure the staff would happily take them considering their talent level and all the background work that has already been laid down. I do wonder if the staff pursues any new PG's with Carey, Harris, Berger, and Beard in the fold for 2021. Agree on both points. I think the two biggest needs for the 2021 class were a SG (with Blair graduating and no true shooting guard in the last class) and PF (with Pickett and Bile moving on). At each of the other three positions it feels like the cupboard is already fairly well-stocked, assuming you believe in our class of 2020 guys. We took 2 point guards last class and have a third prepping into 2021, we took 3 small forwards in the last class (though two of them could maybe spend some time at the 4), and we've already got a bit of logjam at center assuming everyone is back. If we can add Billingsly we'll be in a great position of not really having to worry about need or having to offer a backup option at a particular position just to make sure we have our bases covered. We can just pursue big fish like Mohammed, Holmgren, Mutombo and others. If they don't commit, we can take the scholarship into next spring and look at a transfer, grad transfer or late bloomer. Another related benefit, if we could land JB, would be that we can begin to shift our focus to the 2022 class, which has a lot of pretty good players locally. Keep in touch with a small number of '21 big targets, but otherwise spend time trying to win over McDaniel, Mintz, Watson, and other top local targets, and maybe guys like Clingan or MJ Rice who are outside of the area and who we have a decent shot at. I also think that we really don't appear to need another point guard in 2021, if Beard is really on the way. I think Berger will play as a point guard, and with he and Harris plus Beard, it's not a need. That said, there are no guarantees that any of those guys can cut it at the Big East level, and so one of them not staying or never coming seems like a possibility. If we really like one of the 2021 point guards and they want to come, great. But we're able to operate from a position of strength, because even if we don't get Collins/Smith/Brantley etc. we'll be just fine for next year and have many good options still on the board in 2022. |
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Post by ewingitrust on Jul 27, 2020 18:31:52 GMT -5
Swing for Chet, Reid, Collins, and Ryan if Jalin does indeed commit.
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Post by blazers32 on Jul 27, 2020 18:51:34 GMT -5
Surprise are taking a forward this early If in fact JB does commit. I know we have two scholarships left. I figured Mutombo would get one and we were after a point guard like Collins or Smith.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2020 18:52:57 GMT -5
Surprise are taking a forward this early If in fact JB does commit. I know we have two scholarships left. I figured Mutombo would get one and we were after a point guard like Collins or Smith. Why? It's morre of a position of need than a center, no? |
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Jul 27, 2020 21:18:34 GMT -5
Just spent the afternoon watching every bit of film I could find on KJ Adams and came away rethinking some of my original assessments. IMO he grades out to be more of a SF at the next level then a PF. At the SF, he could be a physical & athletic mismatch. It's also possible the staff views KJ as a SF as well. So with that thought and whispers of the Hoyas being a dark horse for his services, is it possible that the staff would take both KJ Adams and Jalin Billingsley this weekend and go into the spring to complete this class...?
I think we as fanbase have made a mistake by putting Jalin Billingsley and KJ Adams up against each other as if it was a pick one situation when it could easily be take both situation, securing forwards (two are graduating this year) and focus on securing a BIG in the spring?
A Beard, Riley, Adams, and Billingsley class before September would be extremely promising and exciting. Four highly talented athletic players with huge upside that projects to be on campus for more then one season so they could grow together would be a class that would shut up even some of the most negative fans/posters on here. Heh...probably not. They will find something else to complain about...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2020 21:58:21 GMT -5
Just spent the afternoon watching every bit of film I could find on KJ Adams and came away rethinking some of my original assessments. IMO he grades out to be more of a SF at the next level then a PF. At the SF, he could be a physical & athletic mismatch. It's also possible the staff views KJ as a SF as well. So with that thought and whispers of the Hoyas being a dark horse for his services, is it possible that the staff would take both KJ Adams and Jalin Billingsley this weekend and go into the spring to complete this class...? I think we as fanbase have made a mistake by putting Jalin Billingsley and KJ Adams up against each other as if it was a pick one situation when it could easily be take both situation, securing forwards (two are graduating this year) and focus on securing a BIG in the spring? A Beard, Riley, Adams, and Billingsley class before September would be extremely promising and exciting. Four highly talented athletic players with huge upside that projects to be on campus for more then one season so they could grow together would be a class that would shut up even some of the most negative fans/posters on here. Heh...probably not. They will find something else to complain about... Doubt they would take both. Think they're going pretty hard after Jakai Robinson and feel pretty good about their chances. It's probably between us and Seton Hall. |
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Post by blazers32 on Jul 27, 2020 22:07:25 GMT -5
Surprise are taking a forward this early If in fact JB does commit. I know we have two scholarships left. I figured Mutombo would get one and we were after a point guard like Collins or Smith. Why? It's morre of a position of need than a center, no? if we get JB we got one scholarship left. Mutombo is a kid they really want. I don't really agree because they sittin pretty with Smith kid from my... |
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