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Post by hoyanewyorka on Jul 27, 2020 11:06:12 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2020 11:12:24 GMT -5
Hope we have an open scholarship left for Ryan at this rate! These things tend to work themselves out, so I'm not panicking if we keep signing kids now. Better than our recent past of missing targets and being left holding the bag late in the cycle... I want Mutombo too but how long can we keep waiting on Ryan and his shenanigans? Kids are pledging now and if Ryan isn't careful, he may end up somewhere else to Ryan's chagrin, Dad's chagrin, Uncle Patrick chagrin and us fans chagrin. Ryan get your butt on over here son and commit! |
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Post by madhoya on Jul 27, 2020 11:15:45 GMT -5
Hope we have an open scholarship left for Ryan at this rate! These things tend to work themselves out, so I'm not panicking if we keep signing kids now. Better than our recent past of missing targets and being left holding the bag late in the cycle... I want Mutombo too but how long can we keep waiting on Ryan and his shenanigans? Kids are pledging now and if Ryan isn't careful, he may end up somewhere else to Ryan's chagrin, Dad's chagrin, Uncle Patrick chagrin and us fans chagrin. Ryan get your butt on over here son and commit! ....Ryan don’t need a scholarship to come too Georgetown.... |
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Post by SSHoya on Jul 27, 2020 11:16:34 GMT -5
Hope we have an open scholarship left for Ryan at this rate! These things tend to work themselves out, so I'm not panicking if we keep signing kids now. Better than our recent past of missing targets and being left holding the bag late in the cycle... I want Mutombo too but how long can we keep waiting on Ryan and his shenanigans? Kids are pledging now and if Ryan isn't careful, he may end up somewhere else to Ryan's chagrin, Dad's chagrin, Uncle Patrick chagrin and us fans chagrin. Ryan get your butt on over here son and commit! Come on, man. Saying Ryan is engaging in "shenanigans" isn't the way to get him to commit here!!  |
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Post by cthoya16 on Jul 27, 2020 11:17:30 GMT -5
Seems like Riley’s commitment could be the turning point in Pat’s tenure. Jalin would be a great addition and would fill a big need in the 2021 class at power forward. Love what I’m seeing from the staff right now, try to strike while the iron is hot!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2020 11:17:32 GMT -5
I want Mutombo too but how long can we keep waiting on Ryan and his shenanigans? Kids are pledging now and if Ryan isn't careful, he may end up somewhere else to Ryan's chagrin, Dad's chagrin, Uncle Patrick chagrin and us fans chagrin. Ryan get your butt on over here son and commit! ....Ryan don’t need a scholarship to come too Georgetown.... Hmmmmmm! I see where you're coming from!  |
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Jul 27, 2020 11:24:05 GMT -5
Better prospect than Adams. Would be significant. Why do you say that? I know little about either. Though it seems from the videos Adams has much more bounce. Both are very good prospects. Adams physically looks the part and depending on where each end up, Adams could have the immediate impact whereas IMO Billingsley is the better long term prospect. I think he has the bigger upside because of his size and length. Billingsley is the taller & longer prospect. I also think Billingsley inside/out game is a bonus which will lend to his versatility if he ends up at Georgetown. Could be tremendous as a small ball five for the Hoyas in matchups where teams go small. I'm not saying Billingsley isn't an immediate impact prospect. Where he ends up and their style of play and his usage are huge in determining the type of impact he provides. In short the biggest difference in their games is Billingsley is more of a modern day four man and Adams is a hybrid or combo forward. |
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Post by alleninxis on Jul 27, 2020 11:27:32 GMT -5
My preference at that hybrid/stretch four spot is to value shooting and playmaking. I see more upside with Billinglsey compared to Adams as he has a growing skill set at a bigger size. Both fine prospects, would prefer Billinglsey.
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Post by SSHoya on Jul 27, 2020 11:34:46 GMT -5
....Ryan don’t need a scholarship to come too Georgetown.... Hmmmmmm! I see where you're coming from! I think this is still the rule: Men's basketball is limited to 13 "counters" (i.e., either a recruited athlete or someone who receives athletic aid). Ryan Mutombo is a "counter" because we have recruited him so whether his father can afford Georgetown's exorbitant tuition, room and board is not relevant to whether there's slot for him if he is a "counter." I think if someone was recruited for athletic ability, they become a counter regardless of whether aid is awarded or not. Someone correct me if I have this wrong. |
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Post by s4hoyas on Jul 27, 2020 11:38:04 GMT -5
Billingsley has a very versatile skill set looking at the video...he's got good mobility, shoots well from three with good form, passes well, plays fundamental
defense and blocks some shots inside...as with a number of PE's recruits, he appears to be somewhat underrated by the "gurus", but looks to have significant
growth potential over the next few years...the staff seems to have a very good eye for these multi skilled, multi positional players who have excellent upside
but aren't prioritized by the blue bloods yet...I hope we get him...
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Post by jwp91 on Jul 27, 2020 11:40:42 GMT -5
Can someone give a little insight into Billingsley's game/attributes? From that very short scouting video posted on the last page, it seems he's less of a high flying athlete than some of our recent recruits & a little less aggressive/nasty, but seems very fluid, moves well, good skill level & decision-making. He kinda seems more like the combo forward types that JTIII would recruit than the ones we've seen Pat get recently. Have you seen this video? He can play. I am not sure I agree with the less aggressive/nasty comment. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2020 11:44:23 GMT -5
Can someone give a little insight into Billingsley's game/attributes? From that very short scouting video posted on the last page, it seems he's less of a high flying athlete than some of our recent recruits & a little less aggressive/nasty, but seems very fluid, moves well, good skill level & decision-making. He kinda seems more like the combo forward types that JTIII would recruit than the ones we've seen Pat get recently. Have you seen this video? He can play. I am not sure I agree with the less aggressive/nasty comment. He could work on his fitness and playing hard 100% of the time. He has the potential to be a major problem if that part of his game continues to improve. |
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Post by jwp91 on Jul 27, 2020 11:45:36 GMT -5
Hope we have an open scholarship left for Ryan at this rate! These things tend to work themselves out, so I'm not panicking if we keep signing kids now. Better than our recent past of missing targets and being left holding the bag late in the cycle... I want players who want to be Hoyas. Get on the bus...or get left behind. |
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Post by madhoya on Jul 27, 2020 11:46:00 GMT -5
Billingsley has a very versatile skill set looking at the video...he's got good mobility, shoots well from three with good form, passes well, plays fundamental defense and blocks some shots inside...as with a number of PE's recruits, he appears to be somewhat underrated by the "gurus", but looks to have significant growth potential over the next few years...the staff seems to have a very good eye for these multi skilled, multi positional players who have excellent upside but aren't prioritized by the blue bloods yet...I hope we get him... agree...I see a top 100 4* player in the future... |
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Post by HometownHoya on Jul 27, 2020 12:13:49 GMT -5
One of the writers for OwlScoop.com, a Temple site on the Rivals network, futurecasted Billingsley to the Hoyas this morning. Not sure whether he knows anything, but given that we have a positional need for a PF with his profile and that he mentions us as one of the schools on him hardest it's worth watching this one closely this week... I'm with it! We need a power forward. Would love to have gotten Baldwin but Billingsley would fit perfectly plus he's a combo forward which means he can do a little bit of small forward too. Most modern 4s play more like wings on the baseline anyway. Billingsley would be an solid fit. Does he have a timetable for an announcement? It would be nice to have more scholarships for the 21 class...Pat's work is paying off and the relationships he's had a chance to build are turning into well respected players putting us atop of their lists. Let's turn it around on the court but Pat is getting his dawgs. |
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Post by BeantownHoya on Jul 27, 2020 12:25:55 GMT -5
I'm with it! We need a power forward. Would love to have gotten Baldwin but Billingsley would fit perfectly plus he's a combo forward which means he can do a little bit of small forward too. Most modern 4s play more like wings on the baseline anyway. Billingsley would be an solid fit. Does he have a timetable for an announcement? It would be nice to have more scholarships for the 21 class...Pat's work is paying off and the relationships he's had a chance to build are turning into well respected players putting us atop of their lists. Let's turn it around on the court but Pat is getting his dawgs. He is announcing Saturday... |
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Post by gojeffgoroyunder7 on Jul 27, 2020 12:47:45 GMT -5
Hope we have an open scholarship left for Ryan at this rate! These things tend to work themselves out, so I'm not panicking if we keep signing kids now. Better than our recent past of missing targets and being left holding the bag late in the cycle... I want Mutombo too but how long can we keep waiting on Ryan and his shenanigans? Kids are pledging now and if Ryan isn't careful, he may end up somewhere else to Ryan's chagrin, Dad's chagrin, Uncle Patrick chagrin and us fans chagrin. Ryan get your butt on over here son and commit! I think, like many of you, assuming JB commits, we take two more in 2021. My hope is for Aminu and Frankie/Malachi, and if we don't get Aminu, we turn our attention to bringing in a stud center. We can't (I don't think) take 3 more if JB commits, and it seems like we are 100% focused on brining in a PG, so that's why I believe Aminu is plan A for the other scholarship, and if that doesn't work out, we bring in a C. Re: Ryan, look...he's had his chance to commit. He knows how much we want him, despite the fact that other centers are perhaps a better fit. But if he wants to "make his own way" in college, more power to him, wish him all the best. Meanwhile, Tyler Beard, Jordan Riley, Jalin Billinglsey, Aminu Mohammed, and Collins/Smith would be one incredible class. |
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Post by SirSaxa on Jul 27, 2020 13:08:27 GMT -5
Ryan Mutombo is his own man. It would please his dad, Patrick and lots of GU fans if he opts for the Hoyas. IF, instead, he wants to make his own way somewhere else? I respect that and will wish him the best. With Ryan or without, Patrick is determined to build a winning program at GU.
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Post by mdtd on Jul 27, 2020 13:14:35 GMT -5
One of the writers for OwlScoop.com, a Temple site on the Rivals network, futurecasted Billingsley to the Hoyas this morning. Not sure whether he knows anything, but given that we have a positional need for a PF with his profile and that he mentions us as one of the schools on him hardest it's worth watching this one closely this week... I looked into some of his other predictions and they are mostly football, with some recent few being pretty obvious basketball futurecasts like Joseph to Miami and Brizzi to Nova. I don't think he was early on either of those and I wouldn't consider Billingsley a lock. But, this is clearly not bad news and is something to monitor. |
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Post by mdtd on Jul 27, 2020 13:29:28 GMT -5
As for Billingsley's game, he's very smooth. If there was one word I'd use to describe him, it would be smooth. He's not great in any one particular area, but he's a very good finisher around the rack and out of the high post. He's an alright ball handler and three point shooter (32%, I believe), but he does force some plays. He had around 3TO's per game in his last season and that seems to be because he wasn't being super strong with the ball or was trying to force a pass that wasn't there. I assume that would go down with his usage rate in college, but it's something to look for. He also does get caught being out of control every so often, and people catch him off guard for either a steal or a charge. He also gets caught napping defensively sometimes, more so when he's not in position for a steal, and that can lead to some easy buckets.
His game reminds me a lot of Rui Hachimura. Both can shoot the three when needed but are best used in the high post. Both are very smooth players and can get buckets in multiple different ways, from that high post area. I like Billingsley's ability to dribble and I think if he can get used to playing within the flow of an offense (forcing it every once in a while is fine) and can be a more active defender, he's a really good player. I'd like to see a little more from his three-point jumper as he said he started the season really cold, but I think his form shows that it's clearly a weapon if needed. He's a very good athlete, he can handle the ball and has a nice looking jumper. He's a very good addition to this team and I think he would be able to produce from day one, but he's a guy who could make a serious jump at any point. If he starts to play within himself, works on his three point jumper, and gets a little stronger (both inside and with the ball) he'd be an excellent player. I like his game quite a bit.
Here's the video where I got most of this information from, it doesn't have a ton of views on youtube, but I thought it was pretty well done.
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