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Post by njhoyalawya on May 25, 2020 7:31:08 GMT -5
Gene Smith started a Sunday weekly Instagram live show. Last week he interviewed Trey Dickerson but I missed it and still trying to find an archive of it. This week he interviewed Greg Malinowski. One of the things I found interesting was that Greg was trying to come closer to home and move up to a higher level of competition, so he reached out to Coach Waheed (who had recruited him out of high school) to help him transfer to GW. GW wasn’t interested so Coach Waheed introduced him to Coach Ewing. He also apparently lost about 10-15 pounds going into his senior year. www.instagram.com/tv/CAlC0enHC5q/?igshid=1nn5j5jkzou8i A very good interview with Greg M. This should give the naysayers a better perspective on the program hearing from coach Ewing former players. The narrative is that the Gtown men’s basketball program is a disaster under coach Ewing. Last Sunday's show with Trey Dickerson was really good too. I hope they have a link for that one too.
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Post by LCPolo18 on May 25, 2020 20:48:33 GMT -5
Gene Smith started a Sunday weekly Instagram live show. Last week he interviewed Trey Dickerson but I missed it and still trying to find an archive of it. This week he interviewed Greg Malinowski. One of the things I found interesting was that Greg was trying to come closer to home and move up to a higher level of competition, so he reached out to Coach Waheed (who had recruited him out of high school) to help him transfer to GW. GW wasn’t interested so Coach Waheed introduced him to Coach Ewing. He also apparently lost about 10-15 pounds going into his senior year. www.instagram.com/tv/CAlC0enHC5q/?igshid=1nn5j5jkzou8i
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Post by augustusfinknottle on May 27, 2020 20:10:48 GMT -5
Bobby Hurley may be interested in moving.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on May 27, 2020 21:32:04 GMT -5
Bobby Hurley may be interested in moving. Slimy post by what your inferring here... All while the greatest Hoya player of all time is at home fighting a potential life threatening virus....
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Post by gohoyas1234 on May 27, 2020 21:35:00 GMT -5
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Post by bornhoya on May 28, 2020 11:20:31 GMT -5
If I was Ewing I’ll be like F it, I tried my best
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Post by FrazierFanatic on May 28, 2020 14:08:45 GMT -5
If I was Ewing I’ll be like F it, I tried my best Yeah, that sounds like Patrick.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on May 28, 2020 14:53:07 GMT -5
There is really nothing unreasonable about this article, even though it is not particularly well written or insightful. The article asks: At best, the answer to the question is unclear. Ewing is a smart guy, works hard, etc., but there is a legitimate basis for people to question whether he can be successful, given that he has not had much success thus far, and there are underlying problems that have not been fixed (defensive problems and roster turnover, being the biggest among them). That said, the timing of the article is not really in great taste. While I have my concerns about whether he can right the ship, Ewing is our coach for next season, and I want him to do his absolutely best to turn things around. I know he will work hard and do his best (which is one of the reasons the article's comparison to Mullin is a bad one; by all accounts, Ewing is a much harder worker and more attentive than Mullin ever was). I still say the best long-term outcome for everyone involved is for Georgetown to have success with Ewing at the helm.
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Post by bornhoya on May 28, 2020 15:31:12 GMT -5
If I was Ewing I’ll be like F it, I tried my best Yeah, that sounds like Patrick. I’m not saying that’s something he would do but he’s coming off from having a serious virus, he’s getting criticized almost everyday (fair of unfairly) he doesn’t need the money
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Post by FrazierFanatic on May 28, 2020 16:29:18 GMT -5
Yeah, that sounds like Patrick. I’m not saying that’s something he would do but he’s coming off from having a serious virus, he’s getting criticized almost everyday (fair of unfairly) he doesn’t need the money I get what you are saying, but there is zero chance that Patrick cares about the criticism, and it sounds like he is recovering pretty well. I have to believe his only mindset is to continue to work as hard as possible to turn things around and develop a winning program.
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Post by hoyaboya on May 28, 2020 17:53:56 GMT -5
Yeah, that sounds like Patrick. I’m not saying that’s something he would do but he’s coming off from having a serious virus, he’s getting criticized almost everyday (fair of unfairly) he doesn’t need the money Are we sure about the "he doesn't need the money" part? If that's the case, why is he one of the highest paid coaches in college basketball?
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Post by bornhoya on May 28, 2020 19:07:52 GMT -5
I’m not saying that’s something he would do but he’s coming off from having a serious virus, he’s getting criticized almost everyday (fair of unfairly) he doesn’t need the money Are we sure about the "he doesn't need the money" part? If that's the case, why is he one of the highest paid coaches in college basketball? That was Reed’s fault not Ewing’s
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Post by DFW HOYA on May 28, 2020 19:16:03 GMT -5
That was Reed’s fault not Ewing’s The men's basketball coach reports to the president's office, not the athletic director.
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Post by hsaxon on May 28, 2020 20:45:40 GMT -5
I’m not saying that’s something he would do but he’s coming off from having a serious virus, he’s getting criticized almost everyday (fair of unfairly) he doesn’t need the money Are we sure about the "he doesn't need the money" part? If that's the case, why is he one of the highest paid coaches in college basketball? How much does Patrick make and how many years are on his contract at signing?
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Post by hsaxon on May 28, 2020 20:50:37 GMT -5
Xs & Os and defense are fine, but recruiting for me trumps all. If you don’t attract good players the rest doesn’t matter. Coach up the kids at Yates then. 😉 It depends what you mean. Identifying quality talent and making sure players have potential, fit the system and are hardworking? Then again, it's up there in importance. Getting highly sought after recruits? I'm not going to turn one down, but that's not the path to sustained success. Let's look at Georgetown's Pros and Cons relative to other programs -- and let's make our target being a top program in the BE, not even THE top program or a true blueblood. PROS- Large Budget to Pay Coaching Staff
- DMV Home Turf
- DC, for some recruits who want more of a city atmosphere
- Strong Professional Ties (Verizon Center, Teams Practicing, Alumni, etc)
CONS- No recent success / Georgetown as a prestigious program is dead to everyone but parents
- May not be entirely clean, but we're not remotely a dirty program. No payments, no plush apartments, players actually get in trouble for their hijinks, no prostitutes in recruiting / getting a hooker in the Caribbean gets you booted, etc.
- Players need to go to class / the sophomore year transfer
- No current NBA presence sans Otto, who isn't exactly a star
- Strong competitors heavily recruit the area -- ACC bluebloods, Nova, etc.
- Terrible atmosphere at home that won't change until we are already good
The long and short of it is, we're strongly disadvantaged in recruiting. Our only real advantage is our locale, but even there, the DMV doesn't have a long history of staying home. It loves the ACC, and many of its best players particularly want to get away. Our team is in a very bad place. Banking our recruiting on high level recruiting is a huge mistake. Questions for you: - When was the last time we got a real high level recruit? Greg Monroe? Otto does not count -- he was an unknown that shot up the charts; if he had been known, I doubt he would have been at Georgetown.
- We don't get true high level recruits -- the type that are so good they truly contribute to a winning team in their first year or two. Only Otto really counts as someone who was a net positive as a freshman and a star as a sophomore.
- Instead, what we are gettting are talented players who have can win some games ... but can't be the best player on a winning team until they are likely juniors or the back end of their sophomore years. They need upperclassmen to win. But we keep with this endless cycle of players who think they are better than they are and keep leaving.
- Even of the guys we missed and had a realistic shot at ... who changed the course of a program? Really? Who was that short PG III signed that went to LSU? He was good ... then he left before he did anything there really. If there was a single recruiting miss that changed the course of our program over the last 10 years, it was probably Josh Hart ... who wasn't big recruit at all.
Meanwhile, we are getting passed by teams that built their programs through strong coaching, and then got better players as their rep improved -- Butler and Xavier and Gonzaga. Connecticut under Calhoun. Wisconsin. Virginia. These teams didn't recruit their way to being strong; they coached their way and built from there. The players will come to a winning program. What team became strong out of nowhere simply by recruiting? Memphis under Calipari? So great, we just need to do what Memphis did. The players are vitally important. But you're trying to win in a way we can't win right now. There's no realistic coach out there that's going to change Georgetown recruiting THAT much without simply paying players, and we aren't doing that. We need to build by actually being good. Good post, but why are we "not entirely clean."
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Post by bornhoya on May 28, 2020 21:06:45 GMT -5
That was Reed’s fault not Ewing’s The men's basketball coach reports to the president's office, not the athletic director. Reed’s the AD who signed off on the contract
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Post by hoya9797 on May 28, 2020 22:10:10 GMT -5
Are we sure about the "he doesn't need the money" part? If that's the case, why is he one of the highest paid coaches in college basketball? How much does Patrick make and how many years are on his contract at signing?
Too much and too many.
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Post by BeantownHoya on May 28, 2020 22:16:19 GMT -5
How much does Patrick make and how many years are on his contract at signing?
Too much and too many. Couldn't see that coming from a mile away...
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on May 28, 2020 23:16:54 GMT -5
The men's basketball coach reports to the president's office, not the athletic director. Reed’s the AD who signed off on the contract While I have no inside knowledge of how this works, I am 100% confident that the athletic director does not "sign-off" on the basketball coach's salary or contract. It was clear when Esherick and JT3 were fired, that the Board/President's office has the power to fire/hire, not Reed. As far as salary, the university's Form 990 showed that Ewing made about $2.3 million his first year. It's a lot of money (that I'm sure all of us would love to have), but it's not even enough to put him even close to the top 20 highest paid coaches. In fact, according to this USA Today list, $2.3 million would put him around top 50.
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Post by reformation on May 29, 2020 11:11:43 GMT -5
Just curious--was his first year comp for a full yr.
The high level(non super elite coach K etc) guys seemed to be in the high 2's-low/mid 3's for a base. So Ewing is a small haircut below what a 'top" coach would get--unless first yr was not full annual comp. In most programs though he would be clearly on the bubble though.
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