hoyariv71
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Post by hoyariv71 on Jun 25, 2024 11:40:08 GMT -5
I certainly agree, I still think/hope we may get a late arrival, Cook would have been perfect for us. Gonna put a lot of pressure on Fielder , burks McKenna and Sorber to develop and maintain a preseance inside.
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madgesiq92
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Post by madgesiq92 on Jun 25, 2024 11:56:14 GMT -5
Cook would not have been perfect for us. If we had wanted Cook, he would still be here.
Literally, the lowest rated defender in the entire Big East last year.
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hoyariv71
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Post by hoyariv71 on Jun 25, 2024 14:23:03 GMT -5
I would take him as a 10-12 minute backup.
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Post by bicentennial on Jun 25, 2024 16:12:54 GMT -5
Cook's defensive stats were woeful. Someone expressed much earlier in the recruiting cycle this year that Cook needed to stay on the floor for an extended time as when the team played without him on the floor, our scoring suffered greatly. Having only Fielder and Sorber as bigs heading into this year, we may yet see both of their defensive statistics similarly suffer if our offense stalls if one or both foul out of a game. Having a third big who is efficient on offense would prevent that from being an issue. We will have to look at Cook's defensive and offensive stats at Oregon to learn whether it is Cook or the demands of our team last year that caused the woeful defensive metrics.
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Post by hibernatinghoyafan on Jun 25, 2024 16:32:04 GMT -5
I really think we need another experienced ballhandler unless we really view all 40 PG as Epps and Mack’s. It does appear we have some flexibility with a Peavy/Williams/McKenna being able to slide down and play the 2/3 in some capacity but Mulready being the only true “guard” seems to be a bit of a weird roster construction to me.
Unless, and I’m truly starting to believe this more based on circumstantial evidence, Cooley really truly believed this was realistically a 3 year turnaround unless something unexpected happened. We only missed on a starting center this off-season, but so it appears that he was okay blooding in a young roster that will return an experience core of 9/10 (or 10/11 or 9/11 with Awaka or Cliff) guys from in 2025 when college basketball finally loses all the really old guys. Objectively, this roster looks fantastic by itself 12 months from now. You’d start a junior Mack, senior Epps, junior Fielder, and then some possible combo of juniors Burks/Williams, redshirt sophomore McKenna, or sophomore Sorber. That’s 4/5 upperclassmen with a ton of minutes under their belts. Roster 2 years from now coups roll out 4/5 of those guys again. We’ve got a real window here if we develop players and add a couple key pieces each year, where we could put out a roster who realistically can compete for a BE title or FF.
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hoyarooter
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Post by hoyarooter on Jun 25, 2024 18:38:33 GMT -5
I really think we need another experienced ballhandler unless we really view all 40 PG as Epps and Mack’s. It does appear we have some flexibility with a Peavy/Williams/McKenna being able to slide down and play the 2/3 in some capacity but Mulready being the only true “guard” seems to be a bit of a weird roster construction to me. Unless, and I’m truly starting to believe this more based on circumstantial evidence, Cooley really truly believed this was realistically a 3 year turnaround unless something unexpected happened. We only missed on a starting center this off-season, but so it appears that he was okay blooding in a young roster that will return an experience core of 9/10 (or 10/11 or 9/11 with Awaka or Cliff) guys from in 2025 when college basketball finally loses all the really old guys. Objectively, this roster looks fantastic by itself 12 months from now. You’d start a junior Mack, senior Epps, junior Fielder, and then some possible combo of juniors Burks/Williams, redshirt sophomore McKenna, or sophomore Sorber. That’s 4/5 upperclassmen with a ton of minutes under their belts. Roster 2 years from now coups roll out 4/5 of those guys again. We’ve got a real window here if we develop players and add a couple key pieces each year, where we could put out a roster who realistically can compete for a BE title or FF. I'll have what he ordered. ![8D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/insane.png) This assumes no attrition or significant injuries. It's pretty hard to assume no attrition these days. Yes, I know Marquette has done it, but they are the exception. Look at Duke, making the Final Four and then losing half a roster. Welcome to the wonderful world of college basketball.
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jun 25, 2024 19:35:21 GMT -5
We are 2-3 deep at every position except a backup center, if that is what dooms next season we are in ALOT OF TROUBLE I mean it’s not crazy to say not having a second center, could, indeed, kill our season. You mean a third center? Both Fielder and Sorber can play center. In a cinch, I'm betting Burks can as well. Yes, there's real questions of effectiveness, but let's not make a weakness look worse by some convoluted argument that either Sorber or Fielder can't play center.
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Post by jwp91 on Jun 26, 2024 6:26:39 GMT -5
I mean it’s not crazy to say not having a second center, could, indeed, kill our season. You mean a third center? Both Fielder and Sorber can play center. In a cinch, I'm betting Burks can as well. Yes, there's real questions of effectiveness, but let's not make a weakness look worse by some convoluted argument that either Sorber or Fielder can't play center. Agree. I don’t think there is anyone who doesn’t agree we need another big for depth purposes. Not having one will certainly bite us in the ass at some point in the season even if we can get by most of the time with Fielder, Sorber, and Burks. Hopefully, Ed can pull one out of a hat between now and the season.
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