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Post by sweetness on Feb 7, 2018 11:20:05 GMT -5
Mosely would be so much more valuable if he had a better handle. He does some nice things and I think he's a hard worker and leader, but his lack of confidence in his dribble is a big weakness for him and for the team.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Feb 7, 2018 11:39:22 GMT -5
I really didn't hate the play with Mosely. I would have preferred initiating the offense sooner with something else to get a better shot off, but if you're going to run a pick and roll, there's basically no other choice. Mosely is basically the only one who can get to the basket without turning it over or getting stuffed, and he did get a shot up, it just didn't go in.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 7, 2018 14:43:44 GMT -5
I really didn't hate the play with Mosely. I would have preferred initiating the offense sooner with something else to get a better shot off, but if you're going to run a pick and roll, there's basically no other choice. Mosely is basically the only one who can get to the basket without turning it over or getting stuffed, and he did get a shot up, it just didn't go in. It was not the worst endgame play, but it just looked off kilter, maybe it was just the shot, as Dan said, Jagan was bodied off balance and ended up with no angle, seemed forced at that point. Jagan has had 3 last seconds shots in his career, and is 0-3. So maybe he hits the next 3??
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Post by justsaying on Feb 7, 2018 15:29:17 GMT -5
I'm glad at his stage of development he is willing to take the shot(s). The more he does it the more it becomes natural. The more he will feel confident to finish.
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Post by drquigley on Feb 7, 2018 16:52:09 GMT -5
As far as I'm concerned Mosley has to be a big part of this team's future. I can't see us finding a freshman pg capable of coming in and taking over. Blair is a shooter not a true pg. Mulmore and Dickerson are gone (thank goodness) so unless there is a good pg transfer out there it will be up to Mosley
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Post by tashoya on Feb 7, 2018 17:23:11 GMT -5
Last night was a rough end and that's not the first time but the team gets itself in those situations. Hopefully, with a bit more experience, we start coming away with the W. That said, I like that, with the game on the line, Jagan wants the ball. I think, sooner than later, all of us fans are going to want that too.
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Post by justsaying on Feb 7, 2018 18:11:35 GMT -5
All in all the games have been exciting.
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Post by TrueHoyaBlue on Mar 8, 2018 11:47:35 GMT -5
Mosely gets a lot of flak for his handle, and I agree that his ballhandling can stand to improve. But looking through game stats, it looks like matchups dictate that more than not.
In Big East games this season, Jagan averaged 2.2 turnovers per game, (~28% TO rate on KenPom). That's bad. But it's also heavily influenced by games against a couple of teams, namely - St. John's (4.3 TO per game) - Villanova (3.5 TO per game).
Excluding those 5 games, Jagan actually averaged just 1.6 per game in the other 14 Big East games.
Meanwhile, his shooting percentages from 2 and 3 both improved from freshman year.
If (big if) we have more help in the primary ballhandling role next season--between Mac and mystery other guard recruit--and Jagan continues to work on his handle (and on avoiding the travel when driving from the perimeter), he can definitely be a strong contributor as he grows into a junior and senior. Probably not a starter, but a strong first or second guy off the bench.
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the_way
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Post by the_way on Mar 8, 2018 11:55:51 GMT -5
Mosely has room for improvement.
Like his upside. He is strong for a guard and has a good explosiveness/burst going from end to end down the court. Great competitor too. Those are things you can't teach.
He needs refinement of fundamental skills. Practice shooting and ball-security while dribbling.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 8, 2018 12:08:50 GMT -5
Jagan, Jahvon and Jamarko need to dribble basketballs everywhere they go from now until November.
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Post by the_way on Mar 8, 2018 12:13:04 GMT -5
Jamarko needs it the most.
Jahvon as a 2 coming off the bench is not as imperative, but still important. Decent handles, enough to get the shots he loves. Still could improve.
Jagan has serviceable handles, but as a combo guard, definitely needs improvement. Can't get his pocket picked in crunch time if he is going to have the ball in his hand late in games.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Mar 8, 2018 12:17:48 GMT -5
We need to recruit players with tight handles, not recruit guards and hope we can coach them how to dribble.
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Post by TrueHoyaBlue on Mar 8, 2018 12:21:54 GMT -5
We need to recruit players with tight handles, not recruit guards and hope we can coach them how to dribble. We can (and hopefully will) do both.
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Post by the_way on Mar 8, 2018 12:27:19 GMT -5
We need to recruit players with tight handles, not recruit guards and hope we can coach them how to dribble. We can (and hopefully will) do both. Well, that was the III method of recruiting. Very few guys came in adept at ballhandling under III (Wright, Sapp, DSR). Both Starks and Jason Clark took time to develop. Most high-skilled guards weren't coming here, and that wasn't an emphasis in III's offense.
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Post by playtyler on Mar 8, 2018 12:55:41 GMT -5
Nope. Waters was coming here. JT III recruited him. So not sure if the statement "that was the III method of recruiting" really holds water. III always recruited people who could handle. III had Ashanti Cook (class of 2006), Sapp (2009), Wright (2011), Starks (2014), DSR (2016), Waters. I am not including Clark, Wallace, Rivers, Freeman, Tre Campbell, Peak).
Starks did not take time to develop his handle. He was just behind Clark, Wright and Freeman on the depth chart when he got to the Hilltop.
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Mar 8, 2018 13:00:44 GMT -5
Nope. Waters was coming here. JT III recruited him. So not sure if the statement "that was the III method of recruiting" really holds water. III always recruited people who could handle. III had Ashanti Cook (class of 2006), Sapp (2009), Wright (2011), Starks (2014), DSR (2016), Waters. I am not including Clark, Wallace, Rivers, Freeman, Tre Campbell, Peak). Starks did not take time to develop his handle. He was just behind Clark, Wright and Freeman on the depth chart when he got to the Hilltop. Truth and Fact!!!
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the_way
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Post by the_way on Mar 8, 2018 13:03:54 GMT -5
Waters was a glaring need III had failed to address, given the fact III's last year he had Peak running the PG position.
Cook was recruited by Esh. III inherited Cook. He was a junior when III came here.
Starks didn't show much at all 1st 2 years here, even as a reserve. He looked like he was going the Vee Sanford route.But then he blossomed his junior year.
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Post by calhoya on Mar 8, 2018 13:11:32 GMT -5
Mosley needs to take hundreds of shots a day until October, none to be closer than 15 feet from the basket and none involving only one hand.
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Post by hoyaboya on Mar 8, 2018 13:19:20 GMT -5
Mosley needs to take hundreds of shots a day until October, none to be closer than 15 feet from the basket and none involving only one hand. With Mosely, it's more than his shooting that needs improving (although he definitely needs to get better at that). His ball handling needs a ton of work as does his ability to catch passes without taking an extra step and traveling. He needs to improve on very basic guard skills that are usually taught in grade school.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Mar 8, 2018 18:10:29 GMT -5
Sign Kaleb up for the same lessons!
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