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Post by dense on Feb 5, 2018 8:50:41 GMT -5
i think his 2 years as an upperclassman are gonna be really fun for him.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Feb 5, 2018 9:05:12 GMT -5
Keep working young man!
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Post by MCIGuy on Feb 5, 2018 9:33:34 GMT -5
i think his 2 years as an upperclassman are gonna be really fun for him. I am so confident of his continued growth as a ballhandler that I think the team will be comfortably set if Ewing can get one more guard recruit to go along with Mac in 2018. |
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Feb 6, 2018 11:40:37 GMT -5
Mosely can be a real solid role player for us over the next 2 seasons. I'm assuming Pickett, Blair, and McClung all have higher upside on the offensive end, but Mosely may turn into the more rock steady performer on both sides of the ball.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Feb 6, 2018 17:12:10 GMT -5
We need both Mosely and Johnson to contribute offensively. Both are good on the defensive end.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 6, 2018 23:02:35 GMT -5
Although I love his intensity, the young man has to stop trying to be the hero at every possible opportunity. Get the ball to the scorers when the game us on the line.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Feb 6, 2018 23:19:12 GMT -5
Although I love his intensity, the young man has to stop trying to be the hero at every possible opportunity. Get the ball to the scorers when the game us on the line. That's very obviously the play Ewing is running. Does anyone actually think Mosely is just free styling out there? He's the best we have (unfortunately) at running the pick and roll. Question the play call, but the comments calling out Mosely for trying to play hero are silly when he's just running the play. |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 6, 2018 23:23:33 GMT -5
Taking a wild off balance runner from outside the paint is not the play. Pick and roll, go toward the basket - then either kick to an open man or jump stop and shoot. That was a horrific shot, no excusing it.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Feb 6, 2018 23:28:17 GMT -5
Taking a wild off balance runner from outside the paint is not the play. Pick and roll, go toward the basket - then either kick to an open man or jump stop and shoot. That was a horrific shot, no excusing it. Eh, Mosely makes those at a decent rate. It's pretty clear that if the pass to the roll man isn't there, that's what Mosely is doing. He's not a point; he's not going to make a great dish to a third player. We have terrible guard play, especially ball handling. There's simply no one to run creation. Argue the play call, but there's no reason to bag on Mosely for playing the hero. He's running it as designed. |
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Feb 6, 2018 23:29:11 GMT -5
It’s twice he has gone too far to use glass and floats a prayer. We don’t have a DSR or Braswell to seal the deal. So damn frustrating.
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Post by EtomicB on Feb 6, 2018 23:31:42 GMT -5
Although I love his intensity, the young man has to stop trying to be the hero at every possible opportunity. Get the ball to the scorers when the game us on the line. That's very obviously the play Ewing is running. Does anyone actually think Mosely is just free styling out there? He's the best we have (unfortunately) at running the pick and roll. Question the play call, but the comments calling out Mosely for trying to play hero are silly when he's just running the play. Very well stated SF.. |
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Post by EtomicB on Feb 6, 2018 23:36:36 GMT -5
Taking a wild off balance runner from outside the paint is not the play. Pick and roll, go toward the basket - then either kick to an open man or jump stop and shoot. That was a horrific shot, no excusing it. The problem with this take is the fact that no one was open, including Jagan.. To me running PnR in that situation is doomed for failure anyway, opposing coaches are always going to switch everything and have everyone else stay home.. It happened the same way against DePaul.. |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 6, 2018 23:40:55 GMT -5
It’s twice he has gone too far to use glass and floats a prayer. We don’t have a DSR or Braswell to seal the deal. So damn frustrating. Yes, watched it again - when Jagan hits that shot it is because he goes up straight and uses the board. He shot from the side without the board, and with almost 6 seconds left. The play itself was not the best option, but it was just a poor shot. |
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Post by SFHoya99 on Feb 7, 2018 0:52:49 GMT -5
Taking a wild off balance runner from outside the paint is not the play. Pick and roll, go toward the basket - then either kick to an open man or jump stop and shoot. That was a horrific shot, no excusing it. The problem with this take is the fact that no one was open, including Jagan.. To me running PnR in that situation is doomed for failure anyway, opposing coaches are always going to switch everything and have everyone else stay home.. It happened the same way against DePaul.. Sure. I actually hate the prevalence of late game pick and roll -- it's not a great play. I hate that teams stop running their offense. Of course, this makes Ewing like 95% of NBA coaches. I'm not surprised by it, but I suspect a few things of Ewing after watching so far this season: 1) He's a former player who unsurprisingly will be the type to want to put his best players in a position to win rather than scheme his way to a bucket 2) Despite this, I think we are running a shockingly simplistic form of the eventual offense. Everything looks dumbed down compared to even early season 3) Don't expect Xs and Os brilliance on offense ... but it will be greatly better with any kind of guard |
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Post by SFHoya99 on Feb 7, 2018 0:55:04 GMT -5
It’s twice he has gone too far to use glass and floats a prayer. We don’t have a DSR or Braswell to seal the deal. So damn frustrating. Yes, watched it again - when Jagan hits that shot it is because he goes up straight and uses the board. He shot from the side without the board, and with almost 6 seconds left. The play itself was not the best option, but it was just a poor shot. I don't disagree, but people run the pick and roll in that situation because it is guaranteed to get a shot. Mosely's shot isn't great, but he should still hit it 40% of the time ... and better shots can come of it. It's one of the few plays you can run AND control the timing of the shot -- that's a big reason why most NBA teams run it as their end of game / end of shot clock. You control when the shot goes up, and who is involved. I still kind of hate it, but Ewing is far from he only coach who runs it. And we have absolutely no good half court sets that we can reliably go to. |
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Post by tashoya on Feb 7, 2018 1:05:06 GMT -5
It’s twice he has gone too far to use glass and floats a prayer. We don’t have a DSR or Braswell to seal the deal. So damn frustrating. We don't have anyone that assists at the level of Braswell. I assume you didn't mean Braswell taking the shot as he was a poor shooter. Not nearly on the level of DSR. Regardless, if it's not Jagan on the drive, who is it on this team? |
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Post by tashoya on Feb 7, 2018 1:10:23 GMT -5
We can debate and criticize this group from game to game and that's certainly fair game. But, considering the situation coming into the season, I'm fine with giving a guy that maybe isn't quite ready the ball in crunch time to see what happens. It sucks to lose but we're not playing for much this year in terms of tournament stuff. Our guys are playing to improve. If you put a guy in a situation a time or two and he succeeds one of those times, maybe that pays dividends in the future in terms of confidence. If he fails, his team was expected to lose anyway. It's bleak and sad but it's also the situation we're in. I feel like Jagan will be a guy to help close games sooner than later. May as well give him a shot before it's expected of him.
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Post by FHillsNYHoya on Feb 7, 2018 9:11:48 GMT -5
I would have liked a different decision, but not sure Jessie was open on the PnR like others had said - his man didn't slide all the way to the pick from what I remember - he made the decision to hedge pretty quickly, and it would have been a difficult pass for Jagan to complete to Jessie.
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Post by HoyaRejuveNation85 on Feb 7, 2018 9:32:47 GMT -5
Major issues with this team are due to a dearth of playmakers at the guard position. Right now, it's ballhandling, creating a shot and even shooting, although Blair (and Pickett on the wing) seem to be doing better in the shooting department. Focusing on the first 2 and you are going to see the turnover issue -- especially in crunch time -- and the inability to find a good shot at an important time. The latter can be somewhat ameliorated by a good scheme, but I'm not seeing those amazing inbounds plays or half court offense. We so need a confident, competent lead guard to carry us home in hard fought games. (yes, Glide, you've been saying it for a long time). I still don't understand why we can't introduce the dribble handoff play that Hollis used to great effect for a stepback J. Run it for Jamorko, Blair or Govan (and Marcus especially when he's still in the game). I can't see it being anywhere near as bad as the off-balance, contested heaves we put up last night.
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Post by the_way on Feb 7, 2018 9:47:36 GMT -5
The problem with this take is the fact that no one was open, including Jagan.. To me running PnR in that situation is doomed for failure anyway, opposing coaches are always going to switch everything and have everyone else stay home.. It happened the same way against DePaul.. Sure. I actually hate the prevalence of late game pick and roll -- it's not a great play. I hate that teams stop running their offense. Of course, this makes Ewing like 95% of NBA coaches. I'm not surprised by it, but I suspect a few things of Ewing after watching so far this season: 1) He's a former player who unsurprisingly will be the type to want to put his best players in a position to win rather than scheme his way to a bucket 2) Despite this, I think we are running a shockingly simplistic form of the eventual offense. Everything looks dumbed down compared to even early season 3) Don't expect Xs and Os brilliance on offense ... but it will be greatly better with any kind of guard The closer the game gets into last few minutes,especially in Basketball, the less it becomes about X's and O's, and more about the jimmy's and joe's. Regarding 1), Poppovich does this. Phil Jackson did this. Pat Riley, Red Aurebach, Jay Wright. Putting your best player in a position to win is part of scheming one's way to a bucket. The offensive scheme/strategy is pretty sound. Playing against better competition changes things without a doubt. Mosely had a good look with those shots. He just can't finish the deal right now. A better guard could. |
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