professorhoya
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Post by professorhoya on Aug 22, 2016 5:08:48 GMT -5
Reportedly visiting Oregon the next 2 days...Georgetown forward Paul White was in Lincoln Saturday and Sunday, sources close to the situation said Sunday. The 6-foot-8, 230-pound rising junior is expected to visit Oregon the next two days... Hope he goes to Oregon. State of the art facilities and resources and a top team in the Pac. Nebraska seems forever mediocre in the B1G. |
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Post by dreamhoya on Aug 22, 2016 6:08:40 GMT -5
And that's fine if that's the case but B&G should allude to that instead of posting as this is matter of fact. For whatever reason people (not me) on here tend to take his comments and responses as Gospel with lititle to know facts to back them up. As a perceived "Insider" the comments he made about White transferring were negative and tearing down the kid on his way out the door. "One thing we know for sure was White wasn't going to play anyways or struggle to get minutes" and "White wasn't athletic enough to play the SF position at Georgetown" came across as a jilted ex girlfriend who's having difficult time getting over the shock of the break up. He could have easily stated something to the effect of "Sorry to see White leave the program, he has a lot of potential or he's a good kid and will be a good player for another program" like many other posters have on here. Instead he took shots at White's abilities making it seem as though he's not good enough to play here at Georgetown which anyone who knows the game of basketball knows that isn't true. Once again as a perceived "insider" his words hold a little bit more weight with some (not me) on this board. If he's stating an opinion he should say so, otherwise some may take his comments as insider information or fact. I have no idea why White left nor am I pretending to. The real truth of the matter is that the Hoyas program isn't perceived currently as the type of program that can just let a high level skilled and versatile players walk out the door without a dip in team production especially a versatile prospect as Paul White no matter how deep the team is perceived to be. The brand right now isn't that strong. Lets face facts, our Hoyas haven't even made a Sweet 16 in 10 years and hasn't produced an NBA drafted prospect in over 3 years. Duke, Kentucky, UNC, Kansas, Arizona, Michigan State, Louisville can loose high level talent and not even blink because they win at high level particularly in March and they have high level talent recruits in the pipeline every season. Until the program starts winning at high level and making deep runs in March, loosing high level talent will hurt in some manner. Didn't sound jilted to me although I suppose it could be misconstrued that way. B&G was just stating the obvious. White was going to have a really hard time getting playing time at PF where there is a huge log jam. And yeah he isn't athletic enough to play small forward when compared to the other options, Copeland, Peak and Pryor. In fact the small forward position seems locked down for Pryor (who will get major minutes) and it's Pryor's more than could be hoped for development during the summer which changed the PT dynamic. I didn't take it as a "salty" post. I don't necessarily agree with part of it; I think Paul would've gotten things going with good minutes soon enough. He would've been an important cog in JTIII's machine; JT didn't call him "The Natural" for nothing. |
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Post by calhoya on Aug 22, 2016 7:10:10 GMT -5
Has there been any official comment from JT III on this transfer? I have yet to see a quote and this seems unusual to me.
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Post by alleninxis on Aug 22, 2016 8:54:55 GMT -5
This wasn't just basketball.
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Post by EtomicB on Aug 22, 2016 8:59:08 GMT -5
As I stated when I started this thread I'm definitely sorry to see him go for both short & long term reasons..
I personally hope PW made the move solely for health concerns otherwise I have to wonder why the staff would have such a set depth chart/rotation 6 weeks before the 1st practice & 12 weeks before the Maryland game?
It would be especially puzzling coming off a 15-18(7-11) season, it makes me continue to think that practice doesn't mean much in terms of earning PT @ Gtown..
The early part of this season should be all about open competition in my view..
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Post by BigmanU on Aug 22, 2016 9:10:10 GMT -5
As I stated when I started this thread I'm definitely sorry to see him go for both short & long term reasons.. I personally hope PW made the move solely for health concerns otherwise I have to wonder why the staff would have such a set depth chart/rotation 6 weeks before the 1st practice & 12 weeks before the Maryland game? It would be especially puzzling coming off a 15-18(7-11) season, it makes me continue to think that practice doesn't mean much in terms of earning PT @ Gtown.. The early part of this season should be all about open competition in my view.. He saw Pryor play out of his mind during Kenner. He may have seen the writing on the wall. My 2 cents. Like I stated earlier in this thread, he gave it a go and probably didn't want to waste a year potentially nailed to the bench rehabbing/working his way back into shape. This team is deep at his position and PT was tough as is. He can transfer and hit the ground running in 2017 |
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Post by deacon on Aug 22, 2016 9:11:02 GMT -5
Reportedly visiting Oregon the next 2 days...Georgetown forward Paul White was in Lincoln Saturday and Sunday, sources close to the situation said Sunday. The 6-foot-8, 230-pound rising junior is expected to visit Oregon the next two days... Hope he goes to Oregon. State of the art facilities and resources and a top team in the Pac. Nebraska seems forever mediocre in the B1G. Nebraska has arguably the nicest arena and facilities in the Big 10 and he could be a featured player on their team next season. Would be a great option for him. |
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Post by DFW HOYA on Aug 22, 2016 9:19:39 GMT -5
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Post by EtomicB on Aug 22, 2016 9:34:07 GMT -5
As I stated when I started this thread I'm definitely sorry to see him go for both short & long term reasons.. I personally hope PW made the move solely for health concerns otherwise I have to wonder why the staff would have such a set depth chart/rotation 6 weeks before the 1st practice & 12 weeks before the Maryland game? It would be especially puzzling coming off a 15-18(7-11) season, it makes me continue to think that practice doesn't mean much in terms of earning PT @ Gtown.. The early part of this season should be all about open competition in my view.. He saw Pryor play out of his mind during Kenner. He may have seen the writing on the wall. My 2 cents. Like I stated earlier in this thread, he gave it a go and probably didn't want to waste a year potentially nailed to the bench rehabbing/working his way back into shape. This team is deep at his position and PT was tough as is. He can transfer and hit the ground running in 2017 PW and Pryor play different spots though or easily could at the very least.. |
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Post by BigmanU on Aug 22, 2016 9:44:24 GMT -5
He saw Pryor play out of his mind during Kenner. He may have seen the writing on the wall. My 2 cents. Like I stated earlier in this thread, he gave it a go and probably didn't want to waste a year potentially nailed to the bench rehabbing/working his way back into shape. This team is deep at his position and PT was tough as is. He can transfer and hit the ground running in 2017 PW and Pryor play different spots though or easily could at the very least.. I understand but Peak is locking down the other wing. Then you have both Derrickson & Copeland at the forward slot. I mentioned Pryor because he is the change in the dynamic from last season. A lot of interchangeable parts but he's fighting for 2 spots (3-4) in the lineup. |
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Post by blueandgray on Aug 22, 2016 10:05:09 GMT -5
"Jilted ex girlfriend"...really? I've said over and over again that Paul is a great kid who will be missed. Re-read my posts. I like Paul a lot. He was close with everyone on the team and may have had the highest bball IQ on the team. You are right though, I do not think that he is the high level athlete Peak, Copeland, Pryor and Mosely are...so if you want to say that I am tearing him down...run with it. You call it tearing him down, I call it a reasonable assessment of his athleticism. Further, I can't disclose all I know all the time because this board simply isn't the forum to do so. That said, most on this board would agree that Paul would be fighting for minutes this year, most importantly however is that Paul would too. I wish Paul the very best and think we will really miss him 2017/18. Finally, if you have an issue with my posts....feel free to block me. I promise, I won't take it personally. Are you really denying that your initial post on the subject came across salty af? It wasn't exactly subtle, nor should your opinion be taken as fact. Backtracking is never a good look.... It's important to educate yourself before you spout off and look foolish. If you were to read the "who is our starting 5 thread"...I mention that Paul will be fighting to play 5 minutes a game. That was pre-transfer my friend. never salty...just to the point. Please block me...I'm begging. |
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Post by trillesthoya on Aug 22, 2016 10:12:49 GMT -5
Are you really denying that your initial post on the subject came across salty af? It wasn't exactly subtle, nor should your opinion be taken as fact. Backtracking is never a good look.... It's important to educate yourself before you spout off and look foolish. If you were to read the "who is our starting 5 thread"...I mention that Paul will be fighting to play 5 minutes a game. That was pre-transfer my friend. never salty...just to the point. Please block me...I'm begging. This is a dumb discussion. I hate how this board gets into endless fights about semantics. B&G obviously wasn't saying what he said cause he as salty, I honestly don't know how someone could have interpreted it that way. With the changes JT3 supposedly will be making this year Paul's style probably wouldn't fit well at the sf position. That's not a knock on his abilities, it's just pointing out a difference. Everyone here knows Paul when healthy is an excellent player. Combine the changes that supposedly are being made to playing style, Paul's nagging injuries, Trey/Marcus' rise and Isaac being Isaac and it was pretty clear that Paul would be fighting for minutes. |
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Post by rockhoya on Aug 22, 2016 10:51:21 GMT -5
Are you really denying that your initial post on the subject came across salty af? It wasn't exactly subtle, nor should your opinion be taken as fact. Backtracking is never a good look.... It's important to educate yourself before you spout off and look foolish. If you were to read the "who is our starting 5 thread"...I mention that Paul will be fighting to play 5 minutes a game. That was pre-transfer my friend. never salty...just to the point. Please block me...I'm begging. Clearly you're on edge, that's why you keep referring to other threads and things you've said in the past trying to cover up that what you said in this thread. I'm not the only one who noticed, and I don't know why you're begging people to block you - who said anything about that? I get not wanting to own up to your comments, but to say Paul would struggle at SF because of his athleticism is pure horse. |
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Post by gunny on Aug 22, 2016 11:11:35 GMT -5
Can we beat this dead horse anymore?
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Post by IDenj on Aug 22, 2016 11:41:21 GMT -5
I don't think anyone will argue losing talented kids is a good thing. My only point was B&G has earned the right around here to make a statement and not have every poster question the veracity. If you choose to question it, so be it. Most would take his posts as gospel. I do. I can't tell if this is serious or not? I've never once doubted his into nor questioned his motivation behind it. I'm assuming B&G is a he btw... |
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Post by hoyazeke on Aug 22, 2016 12:57:11 GMT -5
Why are we getting so worked up over the "why" of PW leaving Gtown? Does it really matter? I personally think he would have been great this year if he was healthy but I can see a scenario where he could have struggled for minutes.....(MD, AA, TM, IC all fighting for 3/4 minutes)
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Aug 22, 2016 13:02:54 GMT -5
Can we beat this dead horse anymore? Ain't no board beats a dead horse like HoyaTalk beats a dead horse! |
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Aug 22, 2016 13:11:38 GMT -5
Can we beat this dead horse anymore? Ain't no board beats a dead horse like HoyaTalk beats a dead horse! We set it on fire and cut its head off! |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Aug 22, 2016 13:16:39 GMT -5
It's important to educate yourself before you spout off and look foolish. If you were to read the "who is our starting 5 thread"...I mention that Paul will be fighting to play 5 minutes a game. That was pre-transfer my friend. never salty...just to the point. Please block me...I'm begging. Clearly you're on edge, that's why you keep referring to other threads and things you've said in the past trying to cover up that what you said in this thread. I'm not the only one who noticed, and I don't know why you're begging people to block you - who said anything about that? I get not wanting to own up to your comments, but to say Paul would struggle at SF because of his athleticism is pure horse Edited. If we are truly going to a more up-tempo offense (which of course we will wait to see), Paul does not have the quickness that our other options at SF have, so yeah, I would expect him to struggle. Not sure how B&G referencing his prior post in the other thread - which pretty much says just what he has been saying here - is " covering up" anything. While I think 5 minutes a game was a little low - unless the injury is still quite limiting - the general statement makes sense. And B&G's initial post in this thread was "Great kid. He will be missed." Not exactly "jilted lover" language. |
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Post by hoyaboya on Aug 22, 2016 15:35:57 GMT -5
“It was a pretty good visit. It was a real good visit, actually,” White told HuskerOnline.com “Great facilities, encouraging, positive coaches, and a positive environment. They really love their teams here. They love the Nebraska Cornhuskers, and that’s something that is appealing. They do take their sports seriously." One obvious connection is Nebraska assistant coach Kenya Hunter, who previously coached at Georgetown. White is a former Top 50 and four-star recruit, according to Rivals.com, and received a Nebraska scholarship offer then but never visited Lincoln. journalstar.com/sports/huskers/life-in-the-red/georgetown-transfer-visits-husker-hoops/article_57c9e70c-682c-11e6-876e-5bfedf895f73.html |
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