Paul White transfers to Oregon University

[professorhoya]

Aug 20, 2016 19:53:38 GMT -5 trillesthoya said:

This is interesting to say the least. Not too far from Omaha where Akoy Agau is from.... 

It's where Moses transferred to

[LCPolo18]

Aug 20, 2016 20:34:07 GMT -5 professorhoya said:

Aug 20, 2016 19:53:38 GMT -5 trillesthoya said:

This is interesting to say the least. Not too far from Omaha where Akoy Agau is from.... 

It's where Moses transferred to

And it's where Kenya Hunter coaches.

[hoyasaxa2003]

To my knowledge Hunter really wasn't invoked win White. I think this could be more White looking for a midwestern program.

[LCPolo18]

Aug 20, 2016 22:48:29 GMT -5 hoyasaxa2003 said:

To my knowledge Hunter really wasn't invoked win White. I think this could be more White looking for a midwestern program.

Agreed, there was likely no overlap between White and Hunter. There was also no overlap between White and Moses. Just noting additional recent Hoya connections with Nebraska.

[Hoyas4Ever]

Aug 20, 2016 0:29:54 GMT -5 blueandgray said:

Aug 19, 2016 20:14:27 GMT -5 gotgame2 said:

Paul White is healthy. You need to disregard those rumors. Dude can play and will get his due elsewhere. Regret he won't be a Hoya but wish him well on his journey. Keeping it real!

So how do you account for paul playing only sparingly in Kenner and when he did not being very effective?

What would be Paul White's motivation to go hard in a set of glorified pickup games after coming off an injury. If I was him I wouldn't have played hard and risked reinjuring myself in July when the games that count aren't until November. 

[Hoyas4Ever]

Aug 20, 2016 9:09:13 GMT -5 blueandgray said:

I'll say it again...Paul was pretty far down the depth chart and was going to struggle to get the minutes. Yes, over the next 3 months he could make a full recovery and get his mojo back...but apparently he himself didn't think that was very likely. Had Paul believed he would play 25 plus minutes a game...this thread wouldn't exist.

Once again, this is a massive speculation narrative that your pushing as fact. You have no idea if Paul White didn't transfer for personal or family reasons, homesick, or a major shocker...he just wasn't happy or didn't like being at Georgetown or in D.C. regardless of basketball and minutes possibilities. Plenty of starters/25-30 plus minutes players transfer from high major programs every year so stating White transferred because you think he wasn't going to get large minutes seems very presumptive on your part without any facts to back that up. Unless you can tap directly into Paul White's brain, or White makes a statement we have no real idea why he transferred.

[blueandgray]

Aug 20, 2016 23:24:50 GMT -5 Hoyas4Ever said:

Aug 20, 2016 9:09:13 GMT -5 blueandgray said:

I'll say it again...Paul was pretty far down the depth chart and was going to struggle to get the minutes. Yes, over the next 3 months he could make a full recovery and get his mojo back...but apparently he himself didn't think that was very likely. Had Paul believed he would play 25 plus minutes a game...this thread wouldn't exist.

Once again, this is a massive speculation narrative that your pushing as fact. You have no idea if Paul White didn't transfer for personal or family reasons, homesick, or a major shocker...he just wasn't happy or didn't like being at Georgetown or in D.C. regardless of basketball and minutes possibilities. Plenty of starters/25-30 plus minutes players transfer from high major programs every year so stating White transferred because you think he wasn't going to get large minutes seems very presumptive on your part without any facts to back that up. Unless you can tap directly into Paul White's brain, or White makes a statement we have no real idea why he transferred.

Okay, whatever you say.

[IDenj]

Aug 20, 2016 23:24:50 GMT -5 Hoyas4Ever said:

Aug 20, 2016 9:09:13 GMT -5 blueandgray said:

I'll say it again...Paul was pretty far down the depth chart and was going to struggle to get the minutes. Yes, over the next 3 months he could make a full recovery and get his mojo back...but apparently he himself didn't think that was very likely. Had Paul believed he would play 25 plus minutes a game...this thread wouldn't exist.

Once again, this is a massive speculation narrative that your pushing as fact. You have no idea if Paul White didn't transfer for personal or family reasons, homesick, or a major shocker...he just wasn't happy or didn't like being at Georgetown or in D.C. regardless of basketball and minutes possibilities. Plenty of starters/25-30 plus minutes players transfer from high major programs every year so stating White transferred because you think he wasn't going to get large minutes seems very presumptive on your part without any facts to back that up. Unless you can tap directly into Paul White's brain, or White makes a statement we have no real idea why he transferred.

It's also possible that B&G is telling part of the story. Maybe there are other things in Whites life that has led him to this decision. But if White hasn't personally brought it up, then it's not B&G's place to disclose it.
Wish him the best and hope it works out for him.

[tashoya]

What we do know is that Paul is transferring and, probably to a person, we all feel like this is a loss both to the school and to the program because Paul seems like such a good guy and teammate. Shockingly, it seems as though all of HoyaTalk is in agreement for once. We're sorry to see him go and we wish him the very best. He's got a diverse set of skills that could really add to any team. Hopefully, the year off allows him to get completely healthy (if he's not already) and stronger than he's ever been so that the following year he can hit the ground running and better than ever before. I'm sure the majority of us will be rooting really hard for him wherever he ends up.

[EtomicB]

[zxhoya]

Aug 21, 2016 12:08:01 GMT -5 EtomicB said:

I hope he finds a great situation for himself as long as its not in the Big East or @ UMCP.

Best of luck to Paul, loved his well rounded, fundamental game.

[beenaround]

Aug 21, 2016 7:54:29 GMT -5 IDenj said:

Aug 20, 2016 23:24:50 GMT -5 Hoyas4Ever said:

Once again, this is a massive speculation narrative that your pushing as fact. You have no idea if Paul White didn't transfer for personal or family reasons, homesick, or a major shocker...he just wasn't happy or didn't like being at Georgetown or in D.C. regardless of basketball and minutes possibilities. Plenty of starters/25-30 plus minutes players transfer from high major programs every year so stating White transferred because you think he wasn't going to get large minutes seems very presumptive on your part without any facts to back that up. Unless you can tap directly into Paul White's brain, or White makes a statement we have no real idea why he transferred.

It's also possible that B&G is telling part of the story. Maybe there are other things in Whites life that has led him to this decision. But if White hasn't personally brought it up, then it's not B&G's place to disclose it.
Wish him the best and hope it works out for him.

We're all just major Hoya fans with a keyboard. But B&G seems to have a bit more inside knowledge of the team than most of us. I don't know a dam thing, but I do agree PW was probably NOT in line for major playing time this year. One would think that playing time,would be a factor , (among other things)  for someone who probably has hopes of playing professionally somewhere. 

[Hoyas4Ever]

Aug 21, 2016 14:43:19 GMT -5 beenaround said:

Aug 21, 2016 7:54:29 GMT -5 IDenj said:

It's also possible that B&G is telling part of the story. Maybe there are other things in Whites life that has led him to this decision. But if White hasn't personally brought it up, then it's not B&G's place to disclose it.
Wish him the best and hope it works out for him.

We're all just major Hoya fans with a keyboard. But B&G seems to have a bit more inside knowledge of the team than most of us. I don't know a dam thing, but I do agree PW was probably NOT in line for major playing time this year. One would think that playing time,would be a factor , (among other things)  for someone who probably has hopes of playing professionally somewhere. 

And that's fine if that's the case but B&G should allude to that instead of posting as this is matter of fact. For whatever reason people (not me) on here tend to take his comments and responses as Gospel with lititle to know facts to back them up. As a perceived "Insider" the comments he made about White transferring were negative and tearing down the kid on his way out the door. "One thing we know for sure was White wasn't going to play anyways or struggle to get minutes" and "White wasn't athletic enough to play the SF position at Georgetown" came across as a jilted ex girlfriend who's having difficult time getting over the shock of the break up. He could have easily stated something to the effect of "Sorry to see White leave the program, he has a lot of potential or he's a good kid and will be a good player for another program" like many other posters have on here. Instead he took shots at White's abilities making it seem as though he's not good enough to play here at Georgetown which anyone who knows the game of basketball knows that isn't true. Once again as a perceived "insider" his words hold a little bit more weight with some (not me) on this board. If he's stating an opinion he should say so, otherwise some may take his comments as insider information or fact. I have no idea why White left nor am I pretending to.

The real truth of the matter is that the Hoyas program isn't perceived currently as the type of program that can just let a high level skilled and versatile players walk out the door without a dip in team production especially a versatile prospect as Paul White no matter how deep the team is perceived to be. The brand right now isn't that strong. Lets face facts, our Hoyas haven't even made a Sweet 16 in 10 years and hasn't produced an NBA drafted prospect in over 3 years. Duke, Kentucky, UNC, Kansas, Arizona, Michigan State, Louisville can loose high level talent and not even blink because they win at high level particularly in March and they have high level talent recruits in the pipeline every season. Until the program starts winning at high level and making deep runs in March, loosing high level talent will hurt in some manner. 

[IDenj]

I don't think anyone will argue losing talented kids is a good thing. My only point was B&G has earned the right around here to make a statement and not have every poster question the veracity. If you choose to question it, so be it. Most would take his posts as gospel.

I do.

[rockhoya]

Aug 21, 2016 16:21:42 GMT -5 IDenj said:

I don't think anyone will argue losing talented kids is a good thing. My only point was B&G has earned the right around here to make a statement and not have every poster question the veracity. If you choose to question it, so be it. Most would take his posts as gospel.

I do.

I can't tell if this is serious or not?

[hoyasaxa2003]

I admit I know no more than anybody else, but if Paul White's reason for transferring was a problem with the school, coaching staff, or DC, why would he have played in the Kenner League and only transferred at the very last minute, when the transfer market is less than ideal? In that circumstance, it likely would have made sense to leave months ago.

Or maybe, there's a logical reason and I just have no idea. Good luck to him wherever he lands.

[Hoyas4Ever]

Reportedly visiting Oregon the next 2 days...

Georgetown forward Paul White was in Lincoln Saturday and Sunday, sources close to the situation said Sunday. The 6-foot-8, 230-pound rising junior is expected to visit Oregon the next two days...

[blueandgray]

Aug 21, 2016 15:57:11 GMT -5 Hoyas4Ever said:

Aug 21, 2016 14:43:19 GMT -5 beenaround said:

We're all just major Hoya fans with a keyboard. But B&G seems to have a bit more inside knowledge of the team than most of us. I don't know a dam thing, but I do agree PW was probably NOT in line for major playing time this year. One would think that playing time,would be a factor , (among other things)  for someone who probably has hopes of playing professionally somewhere. 

And that's fine if that's the case but B&G should allude to that instead of posting as this is matter of fact. For whatever reason people (not me) on here tend to take his comments and responses as Gospel with lititle to know facts to back them up. As a perceived "Insider" the comments he made about White transferring were negative and tearing down the kid on his way out the door. "One thing we know for sure was White wasn't going to play anyways or struggle to get minutes" and "White wasn't athletic enough to play the SF position at Georgetown" came across as a jilted ex girlfriend who's having difficult time getting over the shock of the break up. He could have easily stated something to the effect of "Sorry to see White leave the program, he has a lot of potential or he's a good kid and will be a good player for another program" like many other posters have on here. Instead he took shots at White's abilities making it seem as though he's not good enough to play here at Georgetown which anyone who knows the game of basketball knows that isn't true. Once again as a perceived "insider" his words hold a little bit more weight with some (not me) on this board. If he's stating an opinion he should say so, otherwise some may take his comments as insider information or fact. I have no idea why White left nor am I pretending to.

The real truth of the matter is that the Hoyas program isn't perceived currently as the type of program that can just let a high level skilled and versatile players walk out the door without a dip in team production especially a versatile prospect as Paul White no matter how deep the team is perceived to be. The brand right now isn't that strong. Lets face facts, our Hoyas haven't even made a Sweet 16 in 10 years and hasn't produced an NBA drafted prospect in over 3 years. Duke, Kentucky, UNC, Kansas, Arizona, Michigan State, Louisville can loose high level talent and not even blink because they win at high level particularly in March and they have high level talent recruits in the pipeline every season. Until the program starts winning at high level and making deep runs in March, loosing high level talent will hurt in some manner. 

"Jilted ex girlfriend"...really? I've said over and over again that Paul is a great kid who will be missed. Re-read my posts. I like Paul a lot. He was close with everyone on the team and may have had the highest bball IQ on the team. You are right though, I do not think that he is the high level athlete Peak, Copeland, Pryor and Mosely are...so if you want to say that I am tearing him down...run with it. You call it tearing him down, I call it a reasonable assessment of his athleticism. Further, I can't disclose all I know all the time because this board simply isn't the forum to do so. That said, most on this board would agree that Paul would be fighting for minutes this year, most importantly however is that Paul would too. I wish Paul the very best and think we will really miss him 2017/18.

Finally, if you have an issue with my posts....feel free to block me. I promise, I won't take it personally.

[rockhoya]

Aug 22, 2016 0:36:53 GMT -5 blueandgray said:

Aug 21, 2016 15:57:11 GMT -5 Hoyas4Ever said:

And that's fine if that's the case but B&G should allude to that instead of posting as this is matter of fact. For whatever reason people (not me) on here tend to take his comments and responses as Gospel with lititle to know facts to back them up. As a perceived "Insider" the comments he made about White transferring were negative and tearing down the kid on his way out the door. "One thing we know for sure was White wasn't going to play anyways or struggle to get minutes" and "White wasn't athletic enough to play the SF position at Georgetown" came across as a jilted ex girlfriend who's having difficult time getting over the shock of the break up. He could have easily stated something to the effect of "Sorry to see White leave the program, he has a lot of potential or he's a good kid and will be a good player for another program" like many other posters have on here. Instead he took shots at White's abilities making it seem as though he's not good enough to play here at Georgetown which anyone who knows the game of basketball knows that isn't true. Once again as a perceived "insider" his words hold a little bit more weight with some (not me) on this board. If he's stating an opinion he should say so, otherwise some may take his comments as insider information or fact. I have no idea why White left nor am I pretending to.

The real truth of the matter is that the Hoyas program isn't perceived currently as the type of program that can just let a high level skilled and versatile players walk out the door without a dip in team production especially a versatile prospect as Paul White no matter how deep the team is perceived to be. The brand right now isn't that strong. Lets face facts, our Hoyas haven't even made a Sweet 16 in 10 years and hasn't produced an NBA drafted prospect in over 3 years. Duke, Kentucky, UNC, Kansas, Arizona, Michigan State, Louisville can loose high level talent and not even blink because they win at high level particularly in March and they have high level talent recruits in the pipeline every season. Until the program starts winning at high level and making deep runs in March, loosing high level talent will hurt in some manner. 

"Jilted ex girlfriend"...really? I've said over and over again that Paul is a great kid who will be missed. Re-read my posts. I like Paul a lot. He was close with everyone on the team and may have had the highest bball IQ on the team. You are right though, I do not think that he is the high level athlete Peak, Copeland, Pryor and Mosely are...so if you want to say that I am tearing him down...run with it. You call it tearing him down, I call it a reasonable assessment of his athleticism. Further, I can't disclose all I know all the time because this board simply isn't the forum to do so. That said, most on this board would agree that Paul would be fighting for minutes this year, most importantly however is that Paul would too. I wish Paul the very best and think we will really miss him 2017/18.

Finally, if you have an issue with my posts....feel free to block me. I promise, I won't take it personally.

Are you really denying that your initial post on the subject came across salty af? It wasn't exactly subtle, nor should your opinion be taken as fact. Backtracking is never a good look....

[professorhoya]

Aug 21, 2016 15:57:11 GMT -5 Hoyas4Ever said:

Aug 21, 2016 14:43:19 GMT -5 beenaround said:

We're all just major Hoya fans with a keyboard. But B&G seems to have a bit more inside knowledge of the team than most of us. I don't know a dam thing, but I do agree PW was probably NOT in line for major playing time this year. One would think that playing time,would be a factor , (among other things)  for someone who probably has hopes of playing professionally somewhere. 

And that's fine if that's the case but B&G should allude to that instead of posting as this is matter of fact. For whatever reason people (not me) on here tend to take his comments and responses as Gospel with lititle to know facts to back them up. As a perceived "Insider" the comments he made about White transferring were negative and tearing down the kid on his way out the door. "One thing we know for sure was White wasn't going to play anyways or struggle to get minutes" and "White wasn't athletic enough to play the SF position at Georgetown" came across as a jilted ex girlfriend who's having difficult time getting over the shock of the break up. He could have easily stated something to the effect of "Sorry to see White leave the program, he has a lot of potential or he's a good kid and will be a good player for another program" like many other posters have on here. Instead he took shots at White's abilities making it seem as though he's not good enough to play here at Georgetown which anyone who knows the game of basketball knows that isn't true. Once again as a perceived "insider" his words hold a little bit more weight with some (not me) on this board. If he's stating an opinion he should say so, otherwise some may take his comments as insider information or fact. I have no idea why White left nor am I pretending to.

The real truth of the matter is that the Hoyas program isn't perceived currently as the type of program that can just let a high level skilled and versatile players walk out the door without a dip in team production especially a versatile prospect as Paul White no matter how deep the team is perceived to be. The brand right now isn't that strong. Lets face facts, our Hoyas haven't even made a Sweet 16 in 10 years and hasn't produced an NBA drafted prospect in over 3 years. Duke, Kentucky, UNC, Kansas, Arizona, Michigan State, Louisville can loose high level talent and not even blink because they win at high level particularly in March and they have high level talent recruits in the pipeline every season. Until the program starts winning at high level and making deep runs in March, loosing high level talent will hurt in some manner. 

Didn't sound jilted to me although I suppose it could be misconstrued that way. B&G was just stating the obvious. White was going to have a really hard time getting playing time at PF where there is a huge log jam. And yeah he isn't athletic enough to play small forward when compared to the other options, Copeland, Peak and Pryor. In fact the small forward position seems locked down for Pryor (who will get major minutes) and it's Pryor's more than could be hoped for development during the summer which changed the PT dynamic.