lichoya68
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Post by lichoya68 on Aug 18, 2016 12:22:53 GMT -5
DAM as the fish said when he hit the wall just DAM
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DFW HOYA
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Post by DFW HOYA on Aug 18, 2016 12:23:00 GMT -5
Most fans seems to believe that health and time required for a full recovery are major issues. Until I hear otherwise, that will be my working theory, and I will not hold this transfer at all against the program or player. Ideally, he could have stayed as a student. Of course, he may still want to play and was willing to go elsewhere (an option Tyler Adams briefly considered but wisely declined) or he had to go for other reasons. Agreed that we don't know and, unless White talks about it, likely never will.
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lichoya68
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OK YOUNGINS ARE HERE AND ARE VERY VERY GOOD cant wait GO HOYAS
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Post by lichoya68 on Aug 18, 2016 12:24:25 GMT -5
Somebody will be lucky to have him as a bball player and even better solid person GOOD LUCK PAUL
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rockhoya
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Post by rockhoya on Aug 18, 2016 12:28:41 GMT -5
I saw that- true- but I do not buy that was really related to this transfer. White played in Kenner and seemed to believe that he would be in a Hoya uniform next year. And that belief is substantiated by what exactly? It's been like 5 months...
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Post by iheartdurenbros on Aug 18, 2016 12:30:02 GMT -5
Very sorry about this. I like PW. I think he has been dealt a bad hand. We missed him this past year. The recovery for a sports hernia takes a long time and can be uneven. The year off will give him a chance to recover. I hope he gets what he wants. I will be rooting for him.
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wnyhoya
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Post by wnyhoya on Aug 18, 2016 12:31:38 GMT -5
Best wishes to Paul!
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Aug 18, 2016 12:39:56 GMT -5
I saw that- true- but I do not buy that was really related to this transfer. White played in Kenner and seemed to believe that he would be in a Hoya uniform next year. And that belief is substantiated by what exactly? It's been like 5 months... My sense is that if you know you are leaving, you transfer during the Spring semester when there are lots of open slots, not right before school starts, and after playing in Kenner.
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Post by Lethal_Interjection on Aug 18, 2016 12:45:07 GMT -5
I wish Paul the best in his future endeavors.
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rockhoya
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Post by rockhoya on Aug 18, 2016 13:02:55 GMT -5
And that belief is substantiated by what exactly? It's been like 5 months... My sense is that if you know you are leaving, you transfer during the Spring semester when there are lots of open slots, not right before school starts, and after playing in Kenner. Except when you have the talent to operate outside of that standard timeline. If he was getting offers in March, I don't see why he wouldn't still have options in September. He has a whole year to sit out anyway, not sure waiting 2 months to transfer is really all that different.
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calhoya
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Post by calhoya on Aug 18, 2016 13:06:15 GMT -5
Very sorry to see him leave. It is hard to know what he might have added to this team but the potential was clearly there and assuming good health he will be an asset to another program.
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Hoyas4Ever
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Aug 18, 2016 13:47:55 GMT -5
Massive MASSIVE lost for the program this year and going forward. Paul White when healthy was the most complete Forward on the roster from being able to handle and pass the rock, score inside/outside and defend on the perimeter and in the post. Easily the most versatile player on the roster. I know many people on here have this strange belief that White wasn't going to get minutes this year. That maybe the dumbest thing I have read on this board and that is saying something. If healthy, PW is too talented not to get legitimate playing time. Some of the roster/minute distribution I've read, make me laugh. Just throw out your best 5 scores and the team will win. That's the easiest way to get beaten because you need players who can create opportunities for teammates and get them the ball in scoring positions and situations. Simply put, White has the ability to make the game easier for his teammates. Paul White has a skill set that is highly needed and will be in high demand on any roster and is very limited on Georgetown's current roster. I'm hoping from the guard spots that Jagan and Mulmore will be able to move the ball creating scoring opportunities for teammates and LJ will continue to develop that skill as he began to show that aspect of his game at the end of last season but that skill was a natural part of Paul White's game.
Paul White not getting minutes this year was as silly to me as Bradley Hayes not going to play a lot this season. Hayes has JT3's full trust and respect in game situations more so then Govan even though Govan has more upside. The Hayes playing time debate is a conversation for another time/thread. Back to White, another ridiculous opinion I've read is that if the Hoyas do indeed play a much faster style/system that Paul White wouldn't fit that style of play. Yeah a 6'8-6'9" Forward who can rebound the ball and start the fast break themselves and make the right pass for the easy score or finish on the break themselves is not a fit for an uptempo offensive style. During his freshman year there were conversations of him playing the PG position. White's game and skill set transcends any style of play. A healthy Paul White covers up a lot of the limitations of last season's roster because of his skill set, versatility and passing acumen. I'm sure he will be in major demand by the schools that actually have scholarships available at this time. His loss to the roster is up there with the loss of Whittington except the current roster is deeper this year then the Hoyas roster that lost Whittington. Paul White's loss will be felt this year in subtle ways but will be really felt in major way in the 17-18 season.
Also for those that use Kenner as gospel to how the team will look in the upcoming season, you need to pump the brakes. Kenner is good for only looking at the freshman and maybe a JUCO transfer like Mulmore to get a little bit of an idea of what they can do offensively, but lets be honest, their is very little defense played, very few players if any rotate on defense to play helpside and very few players play all out 100% hard. That's why I gave very little regard to how people said Paul White looked in Kenner. Coming off an injury, what would be his motivation to play hard in Kenner league. His only goal should be to get 100% healthy for the upcoming season not to play hard and risk injury playing in the Kenner league.
Regarding the timing of his transfer which is very strange, I'm actually in the belief that Paul White wanted to probably transfer in the spring but maybe he was talked out of it and as the new school year got closer to starting he changed his mind. If he left in the Spring, he would have a ton of options. Now his options are limited to schools who still have scholarships available.
Good luck Paul White. I wish you the best! I'm sure he will be successful where ever you end up. A massive loss to the Hoyas roster this year, and the next season couple of seasons as your versatility and size are very difficult to replace.
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SirSaxa
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Post by SirSaxa on Aug 18, 2016 13:55:38 GMT -5
A big THANK YOU to Paul White, a solid Hoya. Too bad injuries held him back, but when we saw a healthy White on the floor he was constantly making smart and important plays.
Here's hoping White returns to a 100% healthy state at his new school as he takes a year off from competition. Wherever he lands, I expect White to make a serious contribution. Sorry it won't be as a HOYA, but wishing him all the best for the remainder of his college career - and studies.
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GUJook97
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Post by GUJook97 on Aug 18, 2016 15:17:29 GMT -5
Massive MASSIVE lost for the program this year and going forward. Paul White when healthy was the most complete Forward on the roster from being able to handle and pass the rock, score inside/outside and defend on the perimeter and in the post. Easily the most versatile player on the roster. I know many people on here have this strange belief that White wasn't going to get minutes this year. That maybe the dumbest thing I have read on this board and that is saying something. If healthy, PW is too talented not to get legitimate playing time. Some of the roster/minute distribution I've read, make me laugh. Just throw out your best 5 scores and the team will win. That's the easiest way to get beaten because you need players who can create opportunities for teammates and get them the ball in scoring positions and situations. Simply put, White has the ability to make the easier for his teammates. Paul White has a skill set that is highly needed and will be in high demand on any roster and is very limited on Georgetown's current roster. I'm hoping from the guard spots that Jagan and Mulmore will be able to move the ball creating scoring opportunities for teammates and LJ will continue to develop that skill as he began to show that aspect of his game at the end of last season but that skill was a natural part of Paul White's game. Paul White not getting minutes this year was as silly to me as Bradley Hayes not going to play a lot this season. Hayes has JT3's full trust and respect in game situations more so then Govan even though Govan has more upside. The Hayes playing time debate is a conversation for another time/thread. Back to White, another ridiculous opinion I've read is that if the Hoyas do indeed play a much faster style/system that Paul White wouldn't fit that style of play. Yeah a 6'8-6'9" Forward who can rebound the ball and start the fast break themselves and make the right pass for the easy score or finish on the break themselves is not a fit for an uptempo offensive style. During his freshman year there were conversations of him playing the PG position. White's game and skill set transcends any style of play. A healthy Paul White covers up a lot of the limitations of last season's roster because of his skill set, versatility and passing acumen. I'm sure he will be in major demand by the schools that actually have scholarships available at this time. His loss to the roster is up there with the loss of Whittington except the current roster is deeper this year then the Hoyas roster that lost Whittington. Paul White's loss will be felt this year in subtle ways but will be really felt in major way in the 17-18 season. Also for those that use Kenner as gospel to how the team will look in the upcoming season, you need to pump the brakes. Kenner is good for only looking at the freshman and maybe a JUCO transfer like Mulmore to get a little bit of an idea of what they can do offensively, but lets be honest, their is very little defense played, very few players if any rotate on defense to play helpside and very few players play all out 100% hard. That's why I gave very little regard to how people said Paul White looked in Kenner. Coming off an injury, what would be his motivation to play hard in Kenner league. His only goal should be to get 100% healthy for the upcoming season not to play hard and risk injury playing in the Kenner league. Regarding the timing of his transfer which is very strange, I'm actually in the belief that Paul White wanted to probably transfer in the spring but maybe he was talked out of it and as the new school year got closer to starting he changed his mind. If he left in the Spring, he would have a ton of options. Now his options are limited to schools who still have scholarships available. Good luck Paul White. I wish you the best! I'm sure he will be successful where ever you end up. A massive loss to the Hoyas roster this year, and the next season couple of seasons as your versatility and size are very difficult to replace. To be fair, a lot of the reason people didnt think he'd get minutes was related to his health. Not just that he wasnt healthy, but because he was coming back from a year off. I dont think that is strange or dumb. I wish him well, but you've barely read or heard anything about him all off season, so again, it's fair to think this isnt a huge loss.
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NCHoya
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Post by NCHoya on Aug 18, 2016 15:18:51 GMT -5
Good luck to Paul White wherever he may go. With the extra year to heal, any program will be lucky to have him. Really a shame it did not work out for him here.
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Post by hoyaboya on Aug 18, 2016 15:27:49 GMT -5
Good luck to Paul White wherever he may go. With the extra year to heal, any program will be lucky to have him. Really a shame it did not work out for him here. Agree with all of this. Injuries have really derailed Paul's career. Hope he gets healthy, as a healthy Paul White is a big-time player.
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rockhoya
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Post by rockhoya on Aug 18, 2016 16:00:39 GMT -5
Massive MASSIVE lost for the program this year and going forward. Paul White when healthy was the most complete Forward on the roster from being able to handle and pass the rock, score inside/outside and defend on the perimeter and in the post. Easily the most versatile player on the roster. I know many people on here have this strange belief that White wasn't going to get minutes this year. That maybe the dumbest thing I have read on this board and that is saying something. If healthy, PW is too talented not to get legitimate playing time. Some of the roster/minute distribution I've read, make me laugh. Just throw out your best 5 scores and the team will win. That's the easiest way to get beaten because you need players who can create opportunities for teammates and get them the ball in scoring positions and situations. Simply put, White has the ability to make the easier for his teammates. Paul White has a skill set that is highly needed and will be in high demand on any roster and is very limited on Georgetown's current roster. I'm hoping from the guard spots that Jagan and Mulmore will be able to move the ball creating scoring opportunities for teammates and LJ will continue to develop that skill as he began to show that aspect of his game at the end of last season but that skill was a natural part of Paul White's game. Paul White not getting minutes this year was as silly to me as Bradley Hayes not going to play a lot this season. Hayes has JT3's full trust and respect in game situations more so then Govan even though Govan has more upside. The Hayes playing time debate is a conversation for another time/thread. Back to White, another ridiculous opinion I've read is that if the Hoyas do indeed play a much faster style/system that Paul White wouldn't fit that style of play. Yeah a 6'8-6'9" Forward who can rebound the ball and start the fast break themselves and make the right pass for the easy score or finish on the break themselves is not a fit for an uptempo offensive style. During his freshman year there were conversations of him playing the PG position. White's game and skill set transcends any style of play. A healthy Paul White covers up a lot of the limitations of last season's roster because of his skill set, versatility and passing acumen. I'm sure he will be in major demand by the schools that actually have scholarships available at this time. His loss to the roster is up there with the loss of Whittington except the current roster is deeper this year then the Hoyas roster that lost Whittington. Paul White's loss will be felt this year in subtle ways but will be really felt in major way in the 17-18 season. Also for those that use Kenner as gospel to how the team will look in the upcoming season, you need to pump the brakes. Kenner is good for only looking at the freshman and maybe a JUCO transfer like Mulmore to get a little bit of an idea of what they can do offensively, but lets be honest, their is very little defense played, very few players if any rotate on defense to play helpside and very few players play all out 100% hard. That's why I gave very little regard to how people said Paul White looked in Kenner. Coming off an injury, what would be his motivation to play hard in Kenner league. His only goal should be to get 100% healthy for the upcoming season not to play hard and risk injury playing in the Kenner league. Regarding the timing of his transfer which is very strange, I'm actually in the belief that Paul White wanted to probably transfer in the spring but maybe he was talked out of it and as the new school year got closer to starting he changed his mind. If he left in the Spring, he would have a ton of options. Now his options are limited to schools who still have scholarships available. Good luck Paul White. I wish you the best! I'm sure he will be successful where ever you end up. A massive loss to the Hoyas roster this year, and the next season couple of seasons as your versatility and size are very difficult to replace. To be fair, a lot of the reason people didnt think he'd get minutes was related to his health. Not just that he wasnt healthy, but because he was coming back from a year off. I dont think that is strange or dumb. I wish him well, but you've barely read or heard anything about him all off season, so again, it's fair to think this isnt a huge loss. Exactly. If you were paying attention you might realize his injury has been pretty serious and nothing was guaranteed
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Post by michaeldm9 on Aug 18, 2016 16:10:02 GMT -5
If this is a minutes thing then it make sense. If he transfer he can get a red-shirt and still have 2 Years Left. But why so late. If he not healthy can't he get a Red-shirt from GTown. I thought he would get plenty of minutes next season due to his skill set. Big time loss for the team!
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njhoya78
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Post by njhoya78 on Aug 18, 2016 16:29:00 GMT -5
I believe that he was eligible for a medical redshirt last season, based upon the number of games in which he played and the fact that he didn't play at all after mid-season. He is ineligible next season if he transfers to a D-1 program, but will still have two full seasons of eligibility remaining after that.
I'm not sure that the availability of an additional year's medical redshirt at Georgetown would have been all that appealing to White.
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Hoyas4Ever
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Aug 18, 2016 16:35:50 GMT -5
I believe that he was eligible for a medical redshirt last season, based upon the number of games in which he played and the fact that he didn't play at all after mid-season. He is ineligible next season if he transfers to a D-1 program, but will still have two full seasons of eligibility remaining after that. I'm not sure that the availability of an additional year's medical redshirt at Georgetown would have been all that appealing to White. Paul White should have 2 years of guaranteed eligibility after this year off at his new school plus if he chooses to, he can appeal for additional year (based off last season) which would be his 6th year of eligibility.
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Post by HometownHoya on Aug 18, 2016 17:17:34 GMT -5
Best of luck to Paul. Always enjoyed watching his smooth style of play. We will miss him but fortunately, the 3 is a position of depth.
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