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Post by daytonahoya31 on Apr 23, 2017 11:52:23 GMT -5
Frank Jackson just declared for Duke. If Duval goes elsewhere, I can't see Waters passing them up. ON EDIT: saw he's going w/o agent. Might affect things. Frank's staying in the draft
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Post by theicon on Apr 23, 2017 13:51:08 GMT -5
don't see why those point guards keep going there to be recruited over to be replaced the following year. Thornton was never known as a one-and-done, and neither was Jackson. He was good in HS, but seemed to get that extra hype when he committed to Duke. I think Coach K is trying a little too hard to out-do Calipari, but it's slowing backfiring.
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Post by eastcoastteddy58 on Apr 23, 2017 14:39:58 GMT -5
don't see why those point guards keep going there to be recruited over to be replaced the following year. Thornton was never known as a one-and-done, and neither was Jackson. He was good in HS, but seemed to get that extra hype when he committed to Duke. I think Coach K is trying a little too hard to out-do Calipari, but it's slowing backfiring. Can't put my finger on it but something is amiss at Duke and its not just at the point guard position!
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Post by hoyaboya on Apr 24, 2017 9:39:48 GMT -5
Interesting that Duke had an in-home visit this past week with unsigned PG Mark Smith: “[They said] he’s a true 6-foot-5 point guard with great shooting guard abilities,” said Anthony Smith, the player’s father. “He has three-man abilities to finish at the rack and can handle like the small point guards.” www.zagsblog.com/2017/04/19/duke-set-home-2017-guard-mark-smith/
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Post by hoya2x2010 on Apr 24, 2017 9:46:51 GMT -5
Why are we assuming, besides it being a Duke player, that FJ is being pushed out and that he is dragging his feet into the NBA? They haven't signed anyone else, Duval is not a sure thing, and it's not like Waters would be a clear upgrade...
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Post by hoyaboya on Apr 24, 2017 10:40:52 GMT -5
Looks like Michigan State might be in play for Waters: The beauty of recruiting is that it’s not just the coaches that get into the action. For Michigan State recruiting, it’s the players as well. In fact, Miles Bridges admitted he’d been doing some recruiting of his own since deciding to come back and now Jaren Jackson Jr. is doing the same. The five-star signee in the 2017 class appeared on The Spartan Beat Thursday, speaking with Rivals‘ Rico Beard. He talked about his past few weeks as well as urged Spartan fans to flood four-star point guard Tremont Waters’ mentions with “Go Green.” spartanavenue.com/2017/04/21/michigan-state-recruiting-tremont-waters-option/
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2017 10:47:51 GMT -5
Looks like Michigan State might be in play for Waters: The beauty of recruiting is that it’s not just the coaches that get into the action. For Michigan State recruiting, it’s the players as well. In fact, Miles Bridges admitted he’d been doing some recruiting of his own since deciding to come back and now Jaren Jackson Jr. is doing the same. The five-star signee in the 2017 class appeared on The Spartan Beat Thursday, speaking with Rivals‘ Rico Beard. He talked about his past few weeks as well as urged Spartan fans to flood four-star point guard Tremont Waters’ mentions with “Go Green.” spartanavenue.com/2017/04/21/michigan-state-recruiting-tremont-waters-option/I'm reading this and the only thing I can think of is... Dude!!!! That's a recruiting violation!!!!
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Post by hoyas4lyfe on Apr 24, 2017 21:47:20 GMT -5
Odd
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Post by hoyas4lyfe on Apr 24, 2017 21:48:46 GMT -5
Apparently, he is visiting WKU this weekend too
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Post by wnyhoya on Apr 24, 2017 21:49:21 GMT -5
ODU as in Old Dominion?? Cmon now
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Post by s4hoyas on Apr 24, 2017 22:26:43 GMT -5
I believe he only has one official visit remaining...so if he goes to WKU, that leaves Mich St out, unless he goes unofficial... I'm not buying the ODU thing...now that he knows the coaching staff is stabilized (assuming final announcement of all soon), he should recommit to Georgetown...that's where he was very happy before the coaching shakeup, for both basketball and academics...and now you've got a Hall of Famer who will run an NBA offense...
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Post by 95hoya on Apr 24, 2017 22:31:40 GMT -5
This is just getting bizarre.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 24, 2017 22:54:22 GMT -5
Florida Gulf Coast up next!
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Post by SaxaCD on Apr 25, 2017 3:03:45 GMT -5
I believe he only has one official visit remaining...so if he goes to WKU, that leaves Mich St out, unless he goes unofficial... I'm not buying the ODU thing...now that he knows the coaching staff is stabilized (assuming final announcement of all soon), he should recommit to Georgetown...that's where he was very happy before the coaching shakeup, for both basketball and academics...and now you've got a Hall of Famer who will run an NBA offense... Geographically getting closer and closer...
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Post by hoya8185 on Apr 25, 2017 7:41:11 GMT -5
To any rationale thinker we are clearly his best option. However the longer this takes the more unlikely i think that he arrives on the Hilltop.
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Post by HoyaRejuveNation85 on Apr 25, 2017 9:03:40 GMT -5
Truly strange developments without the benefit of knowing what the Waters' family is thinking. Still, it seems as if Georgetown has addressed practically each and every concern the family had that led to the decommitment: stability in coaching during Tremont's enrollment and presumably a non-Princeton offense (that he believed would be run by the Hoyas last season). The other things remain the same: high academics, fit, etc. Georgetown has lots of upside on proximity to CT over MSU, Duke, WKU and ODU and certainly for TV coverage over the last 2. The only issue is if the team has enough talent to make Tremont interested. I believe that a renewed defensive commitment and tutelage, particularly for the bigs, can help erase our rebounding deficiencies from the past years. With Tremont, there's no reason that a team with healthy rotation of Govan, Agau, Mourning and Derrickson, and a sophomore Jiggy and some improvement from Kaleb, Mulmore and Tre C, this team cannot surprise some people even next year. That's really the year with the most risk. Aside from his family affinity for the AI and the old time Hoya teams, if Tremont really thinks about it, Georgetown is a good bet for him. He's a multiyear player, who will have the ability to get better and stronger as THE guy. He's not a stopgap and Ewing's pro connections will serve him well WHEN he's ready for a shot at the NBA.
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Post by Elvado on Apr 25, 2017 11:36:24 GMT -5
If the reason for the de-commitment was instability, it is gone.
If his end game is to trade GU (with Ewing) for WKU or ODU, he is being very poorly advised. Duke, MSU I get; the others not even a little bit.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Apr 26, 2017 14:01:34 GMT -5
I wonder if Charlie Moore to Kansas matters. Maybe he is seeing if Jackson stays in draft but we honestly seem to be his best choice.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Apr 26, 2017 14:35:57 GMT -5
Eerily quiet. Would like a decision sooner rather than later, in case we need to pivot.
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Post by beenaround on Apr 26, 2017 14:44:39 GMT -5
Don't know anymore than anyone else here. However, I am in the executive recruiting world. Obviously different, since these are 18 year olds and my folks are 40 somethings. However, my recruits are pretty much in demand as well, have large egos and plenty of options..so there are similarities , believe it or not. We have one immutable rule in our business... TIME KILLS ALL DEALS! Hope this is not the case,here.
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