s4hoyas
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Post by s4hoyas on Apr 26, 2017 15:12:30 GMT -5
I hear you...but just to look at the more positive possibility..."Time heals all wounds..." sometimes, the first decision was the right decision...one just needed more time to reacclimate himself to new/changing circumstances...here's hopin'...
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Post by hoyas4lyfe on Apr 30, 2017 17:14:35 GMT -5
It's been very quiet... is that a good thing?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2017 17:52:57 GMT -5
Last I heard NC State was making a push...
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Post by trillesthoya on Apr 30, 2017 21:46:15 GMT -5
Last I heard NC State was making a push... I think portions of our fanbase will self-destruct if we lose Waters to Keatts.
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hoyapac
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Post by hoyapac on Apr 30, 2017 21:58:39 GMT -5
Last I heard NC State was making a push... I think portions of our fanbase will self-destruct if we lose Waters to Keatts. The threshold for our fans self-destructing for whatever reason is incredibly low
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SDHoya
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Post by SDHoya on Apr 30, 2017 22:07:25 GMT -5
Last I heard NC State was making a push... Player to be named later in Chris Wright deal?
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Hoyas4Ever
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on May 1, 2017 1:42:33 GMT -5
Last I heard NC State was making a push... Also Dayton was trying to making a push after Coach Solomon joined Anthony Grant's staff. Heard solid info that Waters maybe waiting for the smoke to clear at Duke. Many expect Trevon Duval to commit to Duke in the next week or so but rumors on the very low are that clearinghouse eligibility issues may force Duval to go Pro. Remember Duval attended and played a season at Prime Prep Academy/Advanced Prepartory International in Texas which cost the academic eligibility of both Emmanuel Mudiay and Terrance Ferguson among others.
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beenaround
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Post by beenaround on May 1, 2017 6:56:26 GMT -5
Last I heard NC State was making a push... Also Dayton was trying to making a push after Coach Solomon joined Anthony Grant's staff. Heard solid info that Waters maybe waiting for the smoke to clear at Duke. Many expect Trevon Duval to commit to Duke in the next week or so but rumors on the very low are that clearinghouse eligibility issues may force Duval to go Pro. Remember Duval attended and played a season at Prime Prep Academy/Advanced Prepartory International in Texas which cost the academic eligibility of both Emmanuel Mudiay and Terrance Ferguson among others. Interesting stuff and makes sense. In any event, doesn't seem like Waters is dying to be a Hoya.
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Post by wnyhoya on May 1, 2017 21:20:22 GMT -5
Not sure what's going on at Duke but they just landed a point guard that was heading to Eastern Kentucky if he didn't go to Duke soooo...
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Post by SDHoya on May 1, 2017 21:33:46 GMT -5
Not sure what's going on at Duke but they just landed a point guard that was heading to Eastern Kentucky if he didn't go to Duke soooo... Sounds like an insurance policy, or maybe a recognition by K that even if they get Duval there is some value to recruiting a few 4 year players. I'd doubt this commitment is going to scare away Waters if the spot opens up.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on May 1, 2017 22:57:18 GMT -5
Word is Duval might not qualify. The fact that they're taking this kid and not waters may indicate the Waters played their hand all wrong.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on May 1, 2017 23:38:54 GMT -5
"This is crazy," Goldwire told ESPN moments after committing while on a visit to Duke on Monday. "Something I never expected."
The 6-foot-2, 175-pound from Norcross High (Georgia) averaged 12 points and seven assists per game the past season but said he didn't know he was on Duke's radar.
"I was going to commit to Eastern Kentucky, but Duke showed interest recently, and it was something I couldn't pass up," said Goldwire, who took official visits to both Eastern Kentucky and Mercer."...
"They didn't promise me anything," Goldwire said of Duke. "They said they needed another ball handler who would be able to run the second group. It's a great opportunity for me."
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s4hoyas
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Post by s4hoyas on May 2, 2017 10:33:58 GMT -5
So...Duke has signed a point guard "to run the second group"...who's running the first group? (or is this their recruit/speak)...is Frank Jackson definitely in the draft and signing with an agent? (if so, don't know why...he didn't really play/establish that much at Duke last year, and might have on opportunity to start and show alot more by staying)...it appears possibly that Tremont is waiting on Duke and Duke is waiting on Duval who is evidently waiting on the NCAA/Clearinghouse...he might not qualify, he might not know for some time given their history, or he might have to take additional summer courses/credits to qualify...I have great respect for Coach K and his many accomplishments, but he's 70-71 and has had (I believe) 4 back surgeries...he really has nothing else that he needs to accomplish, and folks with continuing/multiple back surgeries tend to become more debilitated over time, not less...look at Tiger Woods, who's much, much younger...I could easily see Coach K hanging it up within a year or two from simply not being able to sustain the rigors of full time coaching any more...if I were Tremont, a bird in the hand might make a lot of sense...
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Post by hoya2x2010 on May 2, 2017 10:51:48 GMT -5
So...Duke has signed a point guard "to run the second group"...who's running the first group? (or is this their recruit/speak)...is Frank Jackson definitely in the draft and signing with an agent? (if so, don't know why...he didn't really play/establish that much at Duke last year, and might have on opportunity to start and show alot more by staying)...it appears possibly that Tremont is waiting on Duke and Duke is waiting on Duval who is evidently waiting on the NCAA/Clearinghouse...he might not qualify, he might not know for some time given their history, or he might have to take additional summer courses/credits to qualify...I have great respect for Coach K and his many accomplishments, but he's 70-71 and has had (I believe) 4 back surgeries...he really has nothing else that he needs to accomplish, and folks with continuing/multiple back surgeries tend to become more debilitated over time, not less...look at Tiger Woods, who's much, much younger...I could easily see Coach K hanging it up within a year or two from simply not being able to sustain the rigors of full time coaching any more...if I were Tremont, a bird in the hand might make a lot of sense... The only slight difference I see between Tiger Woods and Coach K is that, well, Coach K doesn't play a sport.
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Post by deacon on May 2, 2017 11:30:05 GMT -5
I think they're still getting Duval, this is just making up for the loss of Frank Jackson.
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s4hoyas
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Post by s4hoyas on May 2, 2017 12:12:33 GMT -5
Tiger doesn't play a sport either anymore...because of his back issues/surgeries...which was my point.
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Post by hoya2x2010 on May 2, 2017 12:31:57 GMT -5
Tiger doesn't play a sport either anymore...because of his back issues/surgeries...which was my point. Your point is that because an elite athlete's career has been interrupted by injuries, that Coach K will retire for the same reasons? Nevermind the ridiculousness of this comment, you then say that a "bird in hand" might make a lot of sense for Tremont. Apologies if I am misinterpreting, but I presume you are saying Georgetown is the bird in hand. So, less than a month into the Ewing era, we are now the known quantity and Duke's coaching situation is a red flag. I got it.
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Post by dreamhoya on May 2, 2017 12:45:39 GMT -5
So...Duke has signed a point guard "to run the second group"...who's running the first group? (or is this their recruit/speak)...is Frank Jackson definitely in the draft and signing with an agent? (if so, don't know why...he didn't really play/establish that much at Duke last year, and might have on opportunity to start and show alot more by staying)...it appears possibly that Tremont is waiting on Duke and Duke is waiting on Duval who is evidently waiting on the NCAA/Clearinghouse...he might not qualify, he might not know for some time given their history, or he might have to take additional summer courses/credits to qualify...I have great respect for Coach K and his many accomplishments, but he's 70-71 and has had (I believe) 4 back surgeries...he really has nothing else that he needs to accomplish, and folks with continuing/multiple back surgeries tend to become more debilitated over time, not less...look at Tiger Woods, who's much, much younger...I could easily see Coach K hanging it up within a year or two from simply not being able to sustain the rigors of full time coaching any more...if I were Tremont, a bird in the hand might make a lot of sense... I get what ur saying S4, you might be right about Coach K.
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Post by hoya2x2010 on May 2, 2017 13:08:32 GMT -5
Tiger doesn't play a sport either anymore...because of his back issues/surgeries...which was my point. Your point is that because an elite athlete's career has been interrupted by injuries, that Coach K will retire for the same reasons? Nevermind the ridiculousness of this comment, you then say that a "bird in hand" might make a lot of sense for Tremont. Apologies if I am misinterpreting, but I presume you are saying Georgetown is the bird in hand. So, less than a month into the Ewing era, we are now the known quantity and Duke's coaching situation is a red flag. I got it. To be clear, I could understand if you want to call us a bird in hand for a number of reasons, including guaranteed playing time for 4 years, won't be recruited over, etc. But to suggest that our coaching staff (which I hope will be hugely successful) versus arguably the greatest coach in NCAA history who has back problems, is now a reason for a prospect to pick GU... that's some potent Georgetown Juice you're drinking.
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Post by IDenj on May 2, 2017 13:14:17 GMT -5
So...Duke has signed a point guard "to run the second group"...who's running the first group? (or is this their recruit/speak)...is Frank Jackson definitely in the draft and signing with an agent? (if so, don't know why...he didn't really play/establish that much at Duke last year, and might have on opportunity to start and show alot more by staying)...it appears possibly that Tremont is waiting on Duke and Duke is waiting on Duval who is evidently waiting on the NCAA/Clearinghouse...he might not qualify, he might not know for some time given their history, or he might have to take additional summer courses/credits to qualify...I have great respect for Coach K and his many accomplishments, but he's 70-71 and has had (I believe) 4 back surgeries...he really has nothing else that he needs to accomplish, and folks with continuing/multiple back surgeries tend to become more debilitated over time, not less...look at Tiger Woods, who's much, much younger...I could easily see Coach K hanging it up within a year or two from simply not being able to sustain the rigors of full time coaching any more...if I were Tremont, a bird in the hand might make a lot of sense... The only slight difference I see between Tiger Woods and Coach K is that, well, Coach K doesn't play a sport. Golf is an activity. Therefore Tiger doesn't either.
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