NCAA Tournament 2016

[GUJook97]

Mar 18, 2016 0:23:02 GMT -5 hoyainla said:

Mar 18, 2016 0:08:27 GMT -5 hobokenhoya said:

Seton Hall did about everything wrong but it was still a brutal draw. They deserved a 5 seed at the absolute worst and to not play a team they were underdogs against so far away from home. If they played their game they certainly could and should have won but still unfair imo.

Seton Hall got the ultimate screw job. They had to play a game that started at 11 PM EST at altitude against an underseeded team. The committee really needs to look at things like this when making the bracket. Unfortunately once I saw the time and venue I knew they were screwed and had to pick against the BE.

Yeah, I said this right away. That was a bad draw and you knew it was a bad sign when they were immediately underdogs.

[SaxaCD]

Mar 18, 2016 6:27:19 GMT -5 GUJook97 said:

Mar 18, 2016 0:23:02 GMT -5 hoyainla said:

Seton Hall got the ultimate screw job. They had to play a game that started at 11 PM EST at altitude against an underseeded team. The committee really needs to look at things like this when making the bracket. Unfortunately once I saw the time and venue I knew they were screwed and had to pick against the BE.

Yeah, I said this right away. That was a bad draw and you knew it was a bad sign when they were immediately underdogs.

Yeah, I remember you calling that one -- and the announcers kept saying that they just looked sluggish, which they did, for a lot of the game.

[DanMcQ]

[This Just In]

Mar 18, 2016 0:28:52 GMT -5 prhoya said:

Mar 17, 2016 23:19:12 GMT -5 Nevada Hoya said:

Where we stand over the years in the tournament: www.wsj.com/articles/march-madness-the-teams-that-cause-the-most-bracket-carnage-1457998518

Excuse if this has been posted.

PM please. what is GU's rank?

Georgetown is ranked #1

[bostonfan]

Watching Purdue kick that game away just re-enforces how important it is that a team have a capable point guard. It got so bad for Purdue that they were not even putting a point guard on the floor at the end of the game when they needed someone to control the pace and get them into their offense. It killed Georgetown all year and killed Purdue last night. You don't need a star at the point, but you need a capable player who can defend on the perimeter and make sure your team gets good shots on every possession . If that player can also make shots then that is great, but not as important as the first two qualities.

[prhoya]

Mar 18, 2016 7:25:21 GMT -5 This Just In said:

Mar 18, 2016 0:28:52 GMT -5 prhoya said:

PM please. what is GU's rank?

Georgetown is ranked #1

Yikes! I've experienced the carnage too many times.

[GUJook97]

Mar 18, 2016 8:11:59 GMT -5 bostonfan said:

Watching Purdue kick that game away just re-enforces how important it is that a team have a capable point guard. It got so bad for Purdue that they were not even putting a point guard on the floor at the end of the game when they needed someone to control the pace and get them into their offense. It killed Georgetown all year and killed Purdue last night. You don't need a star at the point, but you need a capable player who can defend on the perimeter and make sure your team gets good shots on every possession . If that player can also make shots then that is great, but not as important as the first two qualities.

Agree. That's why Kentucky is my pick to win it all. They have 2 guards that get into the paint and score.

[prhoya]

Mar 18, 2016 8:11:59 GMT -5 bostonfan said:

Watching Purdue kick that game away just re-enforces how important it is that a team have a capable point guard. It got so bad for Purdue that they were not even putting a point guard on the floor at the end of the game when they needed someone to control the pace and get them into their offense. It killed Georgetown all year and killed Purdue last night. You don't need a star at the point, but you need a capable player who can defend on the perimeter and make sure your team gets good shots on every possession . If that player can also make shots then that is great, but not as important as the first two qualities.

But that's not how JT3 views it, but you know that. He doesn't even recognize what a traditional PG is. Maybe, after 10 years of try, try again, Stubborn Thompson the Third is adjusting? Recruiting Lykes is busting several of JT3's recruiting checklist items. It's good to have job security at $3M so you can try to see if that square peg really, really does not fit in that round hole.

[seaweed]

www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/03/17/duke_vs_yale_is_the_most_annoying_matchup_in_ncaa_tournament_history.html

[aleutianhoya]

Mar 18, 2016 8:39:24 GMT -5 prhoya said:

Mar 18, 2016 8:11:59 GMT -5 bostonfan said:

Watching Purdue kick that game away just re-enforces how important it is that a team have a capable point guard. It got so bad for Purdue that they were not even putting a point guard on the floor at the end of the game when they needed someone to control the pace and get them into their offense. It killed Georgetown all year and killed Purdue last night. You don't need a star at the point, but you need a capable player who can defend on the perimeter and make sure your team gets good shots on every possession . If that player can also make shots then that is great, but not as important as the first two qualities.

But that's not how JT3 views it, but you know that. He doesn't even recognize what a traditional PG is. Maybe, after 10 years of try, try again, Stubborn Thompson the Third is adjusting? Recruiting Lykes is busting several of JT3's recruiting checklist items. It's good to have job security at $3M so you can try to see if that square peg really, really does not fit in that round hole.

PR is only the latest to say this, so I'm not picking on him, but can we all just stop this nonsense? We've REPEATEDLY had guards on our roster that can "make sure your team gets good shots on every possession," can "control the pace" and can "make shots." The Wallace/Sapp combo fit that bill. So did Chris Wright. So did Markel Starks. None was perfect in all areas; I'm not saying they were. But do people forget what happened when teams tried to press a Chris Wright-led team (before his injury)?

When people complain about DSR, it's rightly because of his perimeter defense and his inability to break down a defender. Fair enough. But let's not allege that we're not trying to get guys that can do that. A failure to get that guy (or develop him) isn't a sign of stubbornness or a failure in philosophy. It's a different kind of failure, but let's not re-characterize it to fit some other narrative.

Shoot, some would reasonably argue that LJ became that guy by the end of the year. And can be that guy next year. Sure, you need a steady ball-handler to handle pressure. And you need players that can handle the ball in the half-court and direct traffic. That generally is your lead guard. But the guy that gets the ball with 10 seconds on the shot clock and needs to do the right thing? That can be someone at positions 1-4 on the court, right? It can be LJ (playing the 1 or the 2 or the 3). On Duke, those guys are Allen and Ingram, and neither is a PG. Same at Oklahoma with Hield. That's just two prominent and successful teams that come to mind.

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Mar 18, 2016 8:40:11 GMT -5 seaweed said:

www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/03/17/duke_vs_yale_is_the_most_annoying_matchup_in_ncaa_tournament_history.html

Must be part of the selection committees priorities to make sure Duke always has a easy road to the sweet 16 and beyond..

Weak bracket...

[This Just In]

Mar 18, 2016 8:39:24 GMT -5 prhoya said:

Mar 18, 2016 8:11:59 GMT -5 bostonfan said:

Watching Purdue kick that game away just re-enforces how important it is that a team have a capable point guard. It got so bad for Purdue that they were not even putting a point guard on the floor at the end of the game when they needed someone to control the pace and get them into their offense. It killed Georgetown all year and killed Purdue last night. You don't need a star at the point, but you need a capable player who can defend on the perimeter and make sure your team gets good shots on every possession . If that player can also make shots then that is great, but not as important as the first two qualities.

But that's not how JT3 views it, but you know that. He doesn't even recognize what a traditional PG is. Maybe, after 10 years of try, try again, Stubborn Thompson the Third is adjusting? Recruiting Lykes is busting several of JT3's recruiting checklist items. It's good to have job security at $3M so you can try to see if that square peg really, really does not fit in that round hole.

Do you know what plan B is if JTIII does not land Chris Lykes?

[ColumbiaHeightsHoya]

One, I think Yale beats Duke. They are for real. The second Gtown related item, thank god for Drew & Baylor. They may have taken the title for NCAA March bust from our mantle. Two years, two upsets by 14 seeds.

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Mar 18, 2016 9:35:30 GMT -5 This Just In said:

Mar 18, 2016 8:39:24 GMT -5 prhoya said:

But that's not how JT3 views it, but you know that. He doesn't even recognize what a traditional PG is. Maybe, after 10 years of try, try again, Stubborn Thompson the Third is adjusting? Recruiting Lykes is busting several of JT3's recruiting checklist items. It's good to have job security at $3M so you can try to see if that square peg really, really does not fit in that round hole.

Do you know what plan B is if JTIII does not land Chris Lykes?

Yes spoke to him last night...

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Purdue's last 15 minutes looked like us all year... No PG, no Point Forward, no Facilitator period and no idea where to go with the ball as a result. Their lotto pick Bigman got 2 shots in the last 15-20 min of that game

[vv83]

We get frustrated at times that JTIII is not more overtly emotional on the sidelines. Last night, Kevin Willard got real emotional with the refs just as Seton Hall had finally closed the Gonzaga lead to single digits (8 points) with about 7:30 left - leading to a technical foul that helped kill a lot of Seton Hall's momentum. Willard has done a very good job this year, but that was a major mistake at a critical moment.

[TBird41]

Mar 18, 2016 9:13:14 GMT -5 aleutianhoya said:

Mar 18, 2016 8:39:24 GMT -5 prhoya said:

But that's not how JT3 views it, but you know that. He doesn't even recognize what a traditional PG is. Maybe, after 10 years of try, try again, Stubborn Thompson the Third is adjusting? Recruiting Lykes is busting several of JT3's recruiting checklist items. It's good to have job security at $3M so you can try to see if that square peg really, really does not fit in that round hole.

PR is only the latest to say this, so I'm not picking on him, but can we all just stop this nonsense? We've REPEATEDLY had guards on our roster that can "make sure your team gets good shots on every possession," can "control the pace" and can "make shots." The Wallace/Sapp combo fit that bill. So did Chris Wright. So did Markel Starks. None was perfect in all areas; I'm not saying they were. But do people forget what happened when teams tried to press a Chris Wright-led team (before his injury)?

When people complain about DSR, it's rightly because of his perimeter defense and his inability to break down a defender. Fair enough. But let's not allege that we're not trying to get guys that can do that. A failure to get that guy (or develop him) isn't a sign of stubbornness or a failure in philosophy. It's a different kind of failure, but let's not re-characterize it to fit some other narrative.

Shoot, some would reasonably argue that LJ became that guy by the end of the year. And can be that guy next year. Sure, you need a steady ball-handler to handle pressure. And you need players that can handle the ball in the half-court and direct traffic. That generally is your lead guard. But the guy that gets the ball with 10 seconds on the shot clock and needs to do the right thing? That can be someone at positions 1-4 on the court, right? It can be LJ (playing the 1 or the 2 or the 3). On Duke, those guys are Allen and Ingram, and neither is a PG. Same at Oklahoma with Hield. That's just two prominent and successful teams that come to mind.

Remember when Markel took on and beat the press of the soon-to-be national champion Louisville Cardinals in 2013? Only one turnover against one of the best defensive pressure teams in recent memory.

[bmartin]

www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/all-hail-yale-bulldogs-spring-upset-of-baylor-to-earn-rematch-with-duke/2016/03/17/c67207e6-ec78-11e5-b0fd-073d5930a7b7_story.html

Justin Sears, one of Yale’s co-stars, got a close-up glimpse of some ancient Krzyzewskian magic after Yale took leads of 9-0 and 31-24 before the Ivy withered. “We were winning by five to nine points,” Sears said, “and I remember Coach K went over to the refs, spoke to them and the place just got louder. And then every call went against us.”

[aleutianhoya]

Mar 18, 2016 10:09:18 GMT -5 TBird41 said:

Mar 18, 2016 9:13:14 GMT -5 aleutianhoya said:

PR is only the latest to say this, so I'm not picking on him, but can we all just stop this nonsense? We've REPEATEDLY had guards on our roster that can "make sure your team gets good shots on every possession," can "control the pace" and can "make shots." The Wallace/Sapp combo fit that bill. So did Chris Wright. So did Markel Starks. None was perfect in all areas; I'm not saying they were. But do people forget what happened when teams tried to press a Chris Wright-led team (before his injury)?

When people complain about DSR, it's rightly because of his perimeter defense and his inability to break down a defender. Fair enough. But let's not allege that we're not trying to get guys that can do that. A failure to get that guy (or develop him) isn't a sign of stubbornness or a failure in philosophy. It's a different kind of failure, but let's not re-characterize it to fit some other narrative.

Shoot, some would reasonably argue that LJ became that guy by the end of the year. And can be that guy next year. Sure, you need a steady ball-handler to handle pressure. And you need players that can handle the ball in the half-court and direct traffic. That generally is your lead guard. But the guy that gets the ball with 10 seconds on the shot clock and needs to do the right thing? That can be someone at positions 1-4 on the court, right? It can be LJ (playing the 1 or the 2 or the 3). On Duke, those guys are Allen and Ingram, and neither is a PG. Same at Oklahoma with Hield. That's just two prominent and successful teams that come to mind.

Remember when Markel took on and beat the press of the soon-to-be national champion Louisville Cardinals in 2013? Only one turnover against one of the best defensive pressure teams in recent memory.

Right. And I don't think it's unfair to say that the staff thought that Tre may be a guy that would develop into someone that had excellent handle, could deal with a press, and (given his seeming quickness) could take guys off the dribble when need be. Hasn't happened. May never happen. May well have been an error in recruiting judgment. But it's not a flaw in philosophy. Or a lack of understanding the "modern" game.

[michaeldm9]

This season couldn't get any worse. When GTown stops play BBall for the season due to early exit I got into a BBall hide out. Don't want hear or see any commentary or highlights of how disappointing the performance was. Well this season is even worse due to the fact the GTown didn't even make the tourney so I went into hiding much earlier. Didn't even watch selection show or fill out bracket. Through the grapevine I accidentally heard the Cuse made the dance. But today while looking at today's matches because I do like watching the underdogs win, I find out that Wisconsin made the dance as well. WTF!! WTF!!! Wisconsin. OMG. The JTIII discussion thread need to stop and a Player's discussion thread needs to start. The players need to look in the mirror or go to the Wizard and find some heart. I think finding that out is worse than when GTown had beaten all the team in the Final 4 that year, Duke won and they had the 1st round exit to Ohio.

This season just keeping getting worse. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH(Charlie brown scream.)