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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 10:17:32 GMT -5
So I posted that a while ago, that being said I believe I’m accurate. No matter who won it would be years of investigations and BS. My question to you is why u feel the need to laugh at me? As an independent I’ve lost a lot of respect for the left, politicians, media etc. Have we all lost common sense? The ability to work together? Have we resorted to laughing at one another? In all fairness after 2 years haven’t Americans of good will say enough already! If the special council had collusion don’t you think it would have leaked by now. This is the history’s longest smear job. We need to Wrap this up, reflect a bit, and Negioate on border security and re open this govt. As an independent and not a liberal I really don’t feel comfortable with a mob against me. If you want to laugh at me, tell me my views are incorrect or invalid I guess since we’re on social media it’s now 100% your right. Don’t forget I’m your Georgetown brother. hoyatalk2.proboards.com/post/696380Mueller is acting more like an independent than you are Rich. The fact you impugn his work is a giant tell.. He is only following were the facts lead him and his mandate is to investigate: (i) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and (ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and (iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a). The fact there are no leaks from his office in 2 years only proves that he is fair in his handling of his duties. Mueller isn't trying to get the President, he's trying to get it right. Why would you, as an independent, have a problem with that?
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Post by EtomicB on Jan 19, 2019 12:08:10 GMT -5
So I posted that a while ago, that being said I believe I’m accurate. No matter who won it would be years of investigations and BS. My question to you is why u feel the need to laugh at me? As an independent I’ve lost a lot of respect for the left, politicians, media etc. Have we all lost common sense? The ability to work together? Have we resorted to laughing at one another? In all fairness after 2 years haven’t Americans of good will say enough already! If the special council had collusion don’t you think it would have leaked by now. This is the history’s longest smear job. We need to Wrap this up, reflect a bit, and Negioate on border security and re open this govt. As an independent and not a liberal I really don’t feel comfortable with a mob against me. If you want to laugh at me, tell me my views are incorrect or invalid I guess since we’re on social media it’s now 100% your right. Don’t forget I’m your Georgetown brother. Did you forget about the Benghazi investigations Rich?
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Post by richfame on Jan 19, 2019 13:41:36 GMT -5
So I posted that a while ago, that being said I believe I’m accurate. No matter who won it would be years of investigations and BS. My question to you is why u feel the need to laugh at me? As an independent I’ve lost a lot of respect for the left, politicians, media etc. Have we all lost common sense? The ability to work together? Have we resorted to laughing at one another? In all fairness after 2 years haven’t Americans of good will say enough already! If the special council had collusion don’t you think it would have leaked by now. This is the history’s longest smear job. We need to Wrap this up, reflect a bit, and Negioate on border security and re open this govt. As an independent and not a liberal I really don’t feel comfortable with a mob against me. If you want to laugh at me, tell me my views are incorrect or invalid I guess since we’re on social media it’s now 100% your right. Don’t forget I’m your Georgetown brother. hoyatalk2.proboards.com/post/696380Mueller is acting more like an independent than you are Rich. The fact you impugn his work is a giant tell.. He is only following were the facts lead him and his mandate is to investigate: (i) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and (ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and (iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a). The fact there are no leaks from his office in 2 years only proves that he is fair in his handling of his duties. Mueller isn't trying to get the President, he's trying to get it right. Why would you, as an independent, have a problem with that? If your asking me what do I think? I’m totally ok with the investigation and I’m happy it has not been interrupted. I do however think it has to end at some reasonable point in time. It’s gone thru the mid terms, thru the new year, how much longer, DT’s entire 4 year term? When is enough, enough? I think if DT is guilty of a serious crime then it has to be dealt with, if he’s not guilty we have to move on and let Trump govern without this hanging on him. Sound too unreasonable for u?
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Post by richfame on Jan 19, 2019 13:49:44 GMT -5
So I posted that a while ago, that being said I believe I’m accurate. No matter who won it would be years of investigations and BS. My question to you is why u feel the need to laugh at me? As an independent I’ve lost a lot of respect for the left, politicians, media etc. Have we all lost common sense? The ability to work together? Have we resorted to laughing at one another? In all fairness after 2 years haven’t Americans of good will say enough already! If the special council had collusion don’t you think it would have leaked by now. This is the history’s longest smear job. We need to Wrap this up, reflect a bit, and Negioate on border security and re open this govt. As an independent and not a liberal I really don’t feel comfortable with a mob against me. If you want to laugh at me, tell me my views are incorrect or invalid I guess since we’re on social media it’s now 100% your right. Don’t forget I’m your Georgetown brother. Did you forget about the Benghazi investigations Rich? I’m not interested in a tit for tat conversation on which party has the bigger bunch of ass holes. I actually don’t care if u like or hate Trump nor would I try to change your opinion either way. Personally there’s things I like and dislike about DT. Just As I felt about Obama and Bush. That’s normal, rational. Unlike the Trump haters who think he’s racist, sexist, an awful business man, has zero accomplishments in office, has run an awful economy, and is Hitler. I only responded cause I was laughed at by a poster for one of my beliefs. Im not on here with the intent to debate Washington area Liberals. I just don’t have the time nor will it be productive.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 14:06:37 GMT -5
hoyatalk2.proboards.com/post/696380Mueller is acting more like an independent than you are Rich. The fact you impugn his work is a giant tell.. He is only following were the facts lead him and his mandate is to investigate: (i) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and (ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and (iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a). The fact there are no leaks from his office in 2 years only proves that he is fair in his handling of his duties. Mueller isn't trying to get the President, he's trying to get it right. Why would you, as an independent, have a problem with that? If your asking me what do I think? I’m totally ok with the investigation and I’m happy it has not been interrupted. I do however think it has to end at some reasonable point in time. It’s gone thru the mid terms, thru the new year, how much longer, DT’s entire 4 year term? When is enough, enough? I think if DT is guilty of a serious crime then it has to be dealt with, if he’s not guilty we have to move on and let Trump govern without this hanging on him. Sound too unreasonable for u? (i) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump It's not all about Trump, is it? Manafort, Gates others etc. What sounds reasonable to me is to let investigators do their job. Aren't those people guilty of committing serious crimes? There shouldn't be a "its taking too long" get out of jail free card...
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Post by EtomicB on Jan 19, 2019 14:13:01 GMT -5
Did you forget about the Benghazi investigations Rich? I’m not interested in a tit for tat conversation on which party has the bigger bunch of ass holes. I actually don’t care if u like or hate Trump nor would I try to change your opinion either way. Personally there’s things I like and dislike about DT. Just As I felt about Obama and Bush. That’s normal, rational. Unlike the Trump haters who think he’s racist, sexist, an awful business man, has zero accomplishments in office, has run an awful economy, and is Hitler. I only responded cause I was laughed at by a poster for one of my beliefs. Im not on here with the intent to debate Washington area Liberals. I just don’t have the time nor will it be productive. That's fine Rich, I only responded because of the questionable points you were making in your response...
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Post by richfame on Jan 19, 2019 14:23:06 GMT -5
If your asking me what do I think? I’m totally ok with the investigation and I’m happy it has not been interrupted. I do however think it has to end at some reasonable point in time. It’s gone thru the mid terms, thru the new year, how much longer, DT’s entire 4 year term? When is enough, enough? I think if DT is guilty of a serious crime then it has to be dealt with, if he’s not guilty we have to move on and let Trump govern without this hanging on him. Sound too unreasonable for u? (i) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump It's not all about Trump, is it? Manafort, Gates others etc. What sounds reasonable to me is to let investigators do their job. Aren't those people guilty of committing serious crimes? There shouldn't be a "its taking too long" get out of jail free card... Bill Clinton? I was way to young to be interested in such things. Im a Bill Clinton fan tho. I think he was fantastic. I disliked Bush and very much disliked Obama. I like a lot of DT policies many have benefited me personally. So as you can see I don’t identify with a specific party. DT would also not be my first pick for 2020 if I was asked who I wanted as next president. Again I really didn’t come on here to debate yet I’m happy to give my opinion on anything if asked. All good
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 14:28:10 GMT -5
(i) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump It's not all about Trump, is it? Manafort, Gates others etc. What sounds reasonable to me is to let investigators do their job. Aren't those people guilty of committing serious crimes? There shouldn't be a "its taking too long" get out of jail free card... Bill Clinton? I was way to young to be interested in such things. Im a Bill Clinton fan tho. I think he was fantastic. I disliked Bush and very much disliked Obama. I like a lot of DT policies many have benefited me personally. So as you can see I don’t identify with a specific party. DT would also not be my first pick for 2020 if I was asked who I wanted as next president. Again I really didn’t come on here to debate yet I’m happy to give my opinion on anything if asked. All good I don’t know what that has to do with what I wrote, but ok dude...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 16:21:05 GMT -5
So I posted that a while ago, that being said I believe I’m accurate. No matter who won it would be years of investigations and BS. My question to you is why u feel the need to laugh at me? As an independent I’ve lost a lot of respect for the left, politicians, media etc. Have we all lost common sense? The ability to work together? Have we resorted to laughing at one another? In all fairness after 2 years haven’t Americans of good will say enough already! If the special council had collusion don’t you think it would have leaked by now. This is the history’s longest smear job. We need to Wrap this up, reflect a bit, and Negioate on border security and re open this govt. As an independent and not a liberal I really don’t feel comfortable with a mob against me. If you want to laugh at me, tell me my views are incorrect or invalid I guess since we’re on social media it’s now 100% your right. Don’t forget I’m your Georgetown brother. Did you forget about the Benghazi investigations Rich? The “gotta wrap this up” people had no problem with Ken Starr going after the Clintons for 4 years to dig up a lie about a blow job.
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Post by hoya9797 on Jan 19, 2019 17:35:16 GMT -5
They are also missing/ignoring that this has been one of the fastest and most productive investigations of this type ever. Maybe the fastest and most productive ever.
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Post by tashoya on Jan 19, 2019 18:11:31 GMT -5
Rich,
Part of the problem is that you're wildly inconsistent even within your last several posts. First off, Americans of "good will" can't be for the majority of Trump's policies, including this ridiculous shutdown.
Second, the "history's longest smear job" needs to be wrapped up but you're fine with the investigation. The investigation length is dictated by what is being uncovered. If you want to be upset about the length, be angry at those being investigated for suspect and felonious behavior.
Have we lost "common sense" and the "ability to work together"? Well, the Dems went to Trump with a plan for re-opening the government and funding for border security and Trump walked out of the room. Trump is attempting to extort $5.7 billion from the American people for a wall that he promised they'd not have to pay for by lying about a crisis that doesn't exist and holding the paychecks of 800k Americans hostage. I'm not sure what part of that is connected to working together or common sense. But, apparently, you're not bothered by Trump's part in that. I'm not saying the Dems should do more. But one side is willing to negotiate. The other is not.
I understand that you've enjoyed your tax break. Great for you. I hope it has positively impacted your life. You should, however, realize what it's costing many, many, many people both in this country and at our border. Not to mention the hit our country's reputation has taken abroad.
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Post by jld54 on Jan 19, 2019 18:35:27 GMT -5
Rich, Part of the problem is that you're wildly inconsistent even within your last several posts. First off, Americans of "good will" can't be for the majority of Trump's policies, including this ridiculous shutdown. Second, the "history's longest smear job" needs to be wrapped up but you're fine with the investigation. The investigation length is dictated by what is being uncovered. If you want to be upset about the length, be angry at those being investigated for suspect and felonious behavior. Have we lost "common sense" and the "ability to work together"? Well, the Dems went to Trump with a plan for re-opening the government and funding for border security and Trump walked out of the room. Trump is attempting to extort $5.7 billion from the American people for a wall that he promised they'd not have to pay for by lying about a crisis that doesn't exist and holding the paychecks of 800k Americans hostage. I'm not sure what part of that is connected to working together or common sense. But, apparently, you're not bothered by Trump's part in that. I'm not saying the Dems should do more. But one side is willing to negotiate. The other is not. I understand that you've enjoyed your tax break. Great for you. I hope it has positively impacted your life. You should, however, realize what it's costing many, many, many people both in this country and at our border. Not to mention the hit our country's reputation has taken abroad. The issue is that millions of Americans feel it is much more important to focus on citizens of this country and not “people at the border” or the opinion of people abroad. This is the existential issue of our times.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 20:00:19 GMT -5
Rich, Part of the problem is that you're wildly inconsistent even within your last several posts. First off, Americans of "good will" can't be for the majority of Trump's policies, including this ridiculous shutdown. Second, the "history's longest smear job" needs to be wrapped up but you're fine with the investigation. The investigation length is dictated by what is being uncovered. If you want to be upset about the length, be angry at those being investigated for suspect and felonious behavior. Have we lost "common sense" and the "ability to work together"? Well, the Dems went to Trump with a plan for re-opening the government and funding for border security and Trump walked out of the room. Trump is attempting to extort $5.7 billion from the American people for a wall that he promised they'd not have to pay for by lying about a crisis that doesn't exist and holding the paychecks of 800k Americans hostage. I'm not sure what part of that is connected to working together or common sense. But, apparently, you're not bothered by Trump's part in that. I'm not saying the Dems should do more. But one side is willing to negotiate. The other is not. I understand that you've enjoyed your tax break. Great for you. I hope it has positively impacted your life. You should, however, realize what it's costing many, many, many people both in this country and at our border. Not to mention the hit our country's reputation has taken abroad. The issue is that millions of Americans feel it is much more important to focus on citizens of this country and not “people at the border” or the opinion of people abroad. This is the existential issue of our times. It’s true. This kid is VERY focused on a citizen of this country. www.washingtonpost.com/local/social-issues/it-was-getting-ugly-native-american-drummer-on-the-maga-hat-wearing-teens-who-surrounded-him/2019/01/19/41678d84-1c1b-11e9-8813-cb9dec761e73_story.html
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Post by tashoya on Jan 19, 2019 20:51:25 GMT -5
Rich, Part of the problem is that you're wildly inconsistent even within your last several posts. First off, Americans of "good will" can't be for the majority of Trump's policies, including this ridiculous shutdown. Second, the "history's longest smear job" needs to be wrapped up but you're fine with the investigation. The investigation length is dictated by what is being uncovered. If you want to be upset about the length, be angry at those being investigated for suspect and felonious behavior. Have we lost "common sense" and the "ability to work together"? Well, the Dems went to Trump with a plan for re-opening the government and funding for border security and Trump walked out of the room. Trump is attempting to extort $5.7 billion from the American people for a wall that he promised they'd not have to pay for by lying about a crisis that doesn't exist and holding the paychecks of 800k Americans hostage. I'm not sure what part of that is connected to working together or common sense. But, apparently, you're not bothered by Trump's part in that. I'm not saying the Dems should do more. But one side is willing to negotiate. The other is not. I understand that you've enjoyed your tax break. Great for you. I hope it has positively impacted your life. You should, however, realize what it's costing many, many, many people both in this country and at our border. Not to mention the hit our country's reputation has taken abroad. The issue is that millions of Americans feel it is much more important to focus on citizens of this country and not “people at the border” or the opinion of people abroad. This is the existential issue of our times. Focusing on citizens here is, of course, important. Part of the calculus of the well-being of Americans is our standing in the world and how we interact with other countries and people. To me, this isn't an isolationist issue. It's one of racism. And, I agree, it continues to be one of the most important issue of our times as it has been for hundreds of years.
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Post by tashoya on Jan 19, 2019 20:55:48 GMT -5
Rich, Part of the problem is that you're wildly inconsistent even within your last several posts. First off, Americans of "good will" can't be for the majority of Trump's policies, including this ridiculous shutdown. Second, the "history's longest smear job" needs to be wrapped up but you're fine with the investigation. The investigation length is dictated by what is being uncovered. If you want to be upset about the length, be angry at those being investigated for suspect and felonious behavior. Have we lost "common sense" and the "ability to work together"? Well, the Dems went to Trump with a plan for re-opening the government and funding for border security and Trump walked out of the room. Trump is attempting to extort $5.7 billion from the American people for a wall that he promised they'd not have to pay for by lying about a crisis that doesn't exist and holding the paychecks of 800k Americans hostage. I'm not sure what part of that is connected to working together or common sense. But, apparently, you're not bothered by Trump's part in that. I'm not saying the Dems should do more. But one side is willing to negotiate. The other is not. I understand that you've enjoyed your tax break. Great for you. I hope it has positively impacted your life. You should, however, realize what it's costing many, many, many people both in this country and at our border. Not to mention the hit our country's reputation has taken abroad. The issue is that millions of Americans feel it is much more important to focus on citizens of this country and not “people at the border” or the opinion of people abroad. This is the existential issue of our times. And, if it were really about us as Americans, why not say that as opposed to trying to conjure a fake "national security" crisis at the southern border? When that didn't work, it turned into terrorists. When that didn't work he blamed it on drug trafficking. That last one caught a little traction but, if that were really a concern, how about locking up the doctors that have been over-prescribing Oxy and its derivatives for years upon years for kick-backs from the pharmaceutical companies? THAT'S a national emergency and it's all about us. What's being done about that? Nothing is being done. In fact, Trump has rolled back programs to aid in the opioid crisis. So it can't be about that either. Not really, anyway. What's left?
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Post by TC on Jan 19, 2019 21:19:06 GMT -5
The issue is that millions of Americans feel it is much more important to focus on citizens of this country and not “people at the border” or the opinion of people abroad. This is the existential issue of our times. Climate change is the existential issue of our time, and the Trump administration doesn't give a crap about the citizens of this country.
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Post by tashoya on Jan 19, 2019 23:59:25 GMT -5
It's also telling that supporting Trump is the hill that some are willing to die upon. The man is a reprehensible human and a corrupt piece of garbage. What's to like about him or his policies? Tax incentives? Okay. If that's your metric, use some of those savings to buy a mirror. If you're a "Trump is great for the economy" person, give the shutdown another few weeks. Blame won't matter at that point. The economy will take a quarter or so to reflect the damage of what's happening right now but it will be made apparent in Trump's precious Dow. The Dow has been a lagging indicator of the economy for at least 2 decades but it does tend to reflect systemic economic issues eventually.
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Post by hoya9797 on Jan 20, 2019 8:50:15 GMT -5
Look at all that economic anxiety.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 12:51:44 GMT -5
Hard to reach agreements when nobody believes you will keep his word on anything...
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Post by TC on Jan 20, 2019 14:40:44 GMT -5
Nothing says "I respect the dignity of life" more than wearing the gear of an opportunistic hustler who paid to hush up his abortions two years ago and who throws babies in cages as a political strategy. You can tell me all you want you're marching for something but I see what you are wearing, and you are basically telling the world you support gorilla domination politics, rather than the right to life. Wearing Trump gear to a Right to Life march is kind of like going to a Patriots game in an Aaron Hernandez jersey in 2018. I think it says a lot about the march itself that you see so much red.
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