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Post by jld54 on Jan 21, 2019 7:19:43 GMT -5
Nothing says "I respect the dignity of life" more than wearing the gear of an opportunistic hustler who paid to hush up his abortions two years ago and who throws babies in cages as a political strategy. You can tell me all you want you're marching for something but I see what you are wearing, and you are basically telling the world you support gorilla domination politics, rather than the right to life. Wearing Trump gear to a Right to Life march is kind of like going to a Patriots game in an Aaron Hernandez jersey in 2018. I think it says a lot about the march itself that you see so much red. Just like the Buzzfeed Cohen article, everyone jumped to conclusions all because Trump was involved, either directly or indirectly. The Media Wildly Mischaracterized That Video of Covington Catholic Students Confronting a Native American Veteran - reason.com/blog/2019/01/20/covington-catholic-nathan-phillips-video
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 8:41:29 GMT -5
Well, the kid was giving off an appearance of impropriety. So I came to a conclusion about his motives and actions despite not knowing him or all of the facts.
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Post by jld on Jan 21, 2019 9:40:13 GMT -5
Well, the kid was giving off an appearance of impropriety. So I came to a conclusion about his motives and actions despite not knowing him or all of the facts. Am I doing this right? “The kid was giving off the appearance of impropriety”? Because an adult came up to him, unprompted, got in his face, loudly banging a drum in his face and yelled at him for several minutes while the kid simply stood there? The rest of your response is sheer gibberish. Which leads the reasonable person to believe that you rushed to judgment and bought the incorrect media spin simply cause of your ingrained biases.
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Post by prhoya on Jan 21, 2019 10:10:31 GMT -5
The rest of your response is sheer gibberish. Which leads the reasonable person to believe that you rushed to judgment and bought the incorrect media spin simply cause of your ingrained biases. What is Fox News saying about it?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 10:28:47 GMT -5
Well, the kid was giving off an appearance of impropriety. So I came to a conclusion about his motives and actions despite not knowing him or all of the facts. Am I doing this right? “The kid was giving off the appearance of impropriety”? Because an adult came up to him, unprompted, got in his face, loudly banging a drum in his face and yelled at him for several minutes while the kid simply stood there? The rest of your response is sheer gibberish. Which leads the reasonable person to believe that you rushed to judgment and bought the incorrect media spin simply cause of your ingrained biases. The same way your ingrained biases have led you to extrapolate an “appearance of impropriety” on Mueller’s team to conclude that the entire investigation is compromised.
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Post by hoya9797 on Jan 21, 2019 10:34:19 GMT -5
The kid was at a march for life rally and wearing a MAGA hat. He deserves all the he got.
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Post by TC on Jan 21, 2019 10:40:23 GMT -5
Nothing says "I respect the dignity of life" more than wearing the gear of an opportunistic hustler who paid to hush up his abortions two years ago and who throws babies in cages as a political strategy. You can tell me all you want you're marching for something but I see what you are wearing, and you are basically telling the world you support gorilla domination politics, rather than the right to life. Wearing Trump gear to a Right to Life march is kind of like going to a Patriots game in an Aaron Hernandez jersey in 2018. I think it says a lot about the march itself that you see so much red. Just like the Buzzfeed Cohen article, everyone jumped to conclusions all because Trump was involved, either directly or indirectly. The Media Wildly Mischaracterized That Video of Covington Catholic Students Confronting a Native American Veteran - reason.com/blog/2019/01/20/covington-catholic-nathan-phillips-videoI said nothing about the racial aspect because I think it's muddy and was propelled by Russian social media amplification, and no one covered themselves in glory. I mostly blame the school's chaplains for having 0 common sense though. I watched the video and three or four times a chaperone pushed kids back to maintain physical distance, but did nothing to stop any of the interaction even knowing that people were recording it on both sides. The school deserves the black eye it got here because the chaperones let it all happen. My bigger point is this - if you think abortion is murder and you're marching against abortion and you wear MAGA stuff - you're just like a Patriots fan wearing Aaron Hernandez gear. You are telling the world that murder is okay if the guy plays for your team. The only difference is the Patriots are an amoral, cheating organization that would self police people who would try to wear a Hernandez jersey to Gilette and stop them from doing that and the Republican Party/conservatives are amoral cheaters that don't have the self discipline to police themselves like that.
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Post by jld54 on Jan 21, 2019 10:54:12 GMT -5
The rest of your response is sheer gibberish. Which leads the reasonable person to believe that you rushed to judgment and bought the incorrect media spin simply cause of your ingrained biases. What is Fox News saying about it? I would not know. Fox News is right wing propaganda, just like CNN and MSNBC are left wing propaganda. I try to find actual facts through original source research, as the mainstream/legacy media, including Fox, are nothing more than mouthpieces for political view points.
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Post by jld54 on Jan 21, 2019 10:55:17 GMT -5
The kid was at a march for life rally and wearing a MAGA hat. He deserves all the he got. Well, at least you’re honest enough to state your candid opinion that this individual should be the subject of false and defamatory stories because of his political viewpoints. You prove my point regarding the left…
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Post by jld54 on Jan 21, 2019 10:58:48 GMT -5
I said nothing about the racial aspect because I think it's muddy and was propelled by Russian social media amplification, and no one covered themselves in glory. I mostly blame the school's chaplains for having 0 common sense though. I watched the video and three or four times a chaperone pushed kids back to maintain physical distance, but did nothing to stop any of the interaction even knowing that people were recording it on both sides. The school deserves the black eye it got here because the chaperones let it all happen. My bigger point is this - if you think abortion is murder and you're marching against abortion and you wear MAGA stuff - you're just like a Patriots fan wearing Aaron Hernandez gear. You are telling the world that murder is okay if the guy plays for your team. The only difference is the Patriots are an amoral, cheating organization that would self police people who would try to wear a Hernandez jersey to Gilette and stop them from doing that and the Republican Party/conservatives are amoral cheaters that don't have the self discipline to police themselves like that. So you blame the “chaplains“, and not the Black Hebrew Israelites that subjected the students to incessant racist, homophobic and they get it verbal abuse? Yes, the ones who told the black student in the group that his white classmates were going to harvest his organs? You ascribe no blame to the Native American activist who approached the students, and got in one teenager’s face, yelling and being a drum loudly or the Native American activists screaming “go back to Europe”?
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Post by prhoya on Jan 21, 2019 11:01:52 GMT -5
What is Fox News saying about it? I would not know. Fox News is right wing propaganda, just like CNN and MSNBC are left wing propaganda. I try to find actual facts through original source research, as the mainstream/legacy media, including Fox, are nothing more than mouthpieces for political view points. Depending on the news of the day, I check at 9:00 pm to see what those 3 news channels are saying about a particular news of the day and how they cover/spin it. Your views expressed here are almost 100% in line with Fox News.
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Post by TC on Jan 21, 2019 11:12:41 GMT -5
So you blame the “chaplains“, and not the Black Hebrew Israelites. That’s objected the student who incessant racist, homophobic and they get it verbal abuse.? You ascribe no blame to the native American activist who approached the students, and got in one teenagers face yelling and being a drum loudly? Or the native American activist screaming “go back to Europe” or the Native American activists screaming “go back to Europe“? But what about the crazy street preachers? Whatabout whatabout whatbout? What about them? Yes, I expect more from chaperones - people charged to maintain group self-discipline and who's responsibility it is to make sure they represent their school in a positive manner. They failed miserably. I went to an all boys private Catholic high school. I went on trips in high school. If you wore a HS sweatshirt, you were representing the school. I cannot imagine our chaperones allowing anyone to wear gear of any political candidate on a trip, let alone anything as politically charged as MAGA gear, or let anyone get into a shouting argument with a bunch of crazy, trolly street preachers while video was rolling everywhere. Standards must have slipped - those chaperones had zero common sense. I agree - some of the kids objected to the homophobic language, some of the kids objected to the racial slurs. That said, other kids got caught on video doing chants to racially mock a Native American Vet. Some of the kids were throwing the white power OK sign. Can't explain any of that away.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 11:13:35 GMT -5
The kid was at a march for life rally and wearing a MAGA hat. He deserves all the he got. Well, at least you’re honest enough to state your candid opinion that this individual should be the subject of false and defamatory stories because of his political viewpoints. You prove my point regarding the left… 🤔
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Post by jld54 on Jan 21, 2019 11:26:38 GMT -5
I would not know. Fox News is right wing propaganda, just like CNN and MSNBC are left wing propaganda. I try to find actual facts through original source research, as the mainstream/legacy media, including Fox, are nothing more than mouthpieces for political view points. Depending on the news of the day, I check at 9:00 pm to see what those 3 news channels are saying about a particular news of the day and how they cover/spin it. Your views expressed here are almost 100% in line with Fox News. My views here are based upon facts and fairness. I could not care less if they supposedly align with Fox News. I cited an article written by an author on a site that is generally libertarian in nature, and is very critical of Trump on trade and immigration. So please do not deflect by referring to Fox - it suggests that you seek to evade a discussion of the facts.
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Post by TC on Jan 21, 2019 11:42:22 GMT -5
So please do not deflect by referring to Fox - it suggests that you seek to evade a discussion of the facts. We answered your questions. Does it makes sense to wear MAGA gear to a Rally for Life given the number of abortions that Donald Trump has paid for?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 12:03:55 GMT -5
Well, at least you’re honest enough to state your candid opinion that this individual should be the subject of false and defamatory stories because of his political viewpoints. You prove my point regarding the left… 🤔 Reminder: millions of Americans do not believe that birtherism is false or defamatory.
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Post by jld54 on Jan 21, 2019 12:16:36 GMT -5
Reminder: millions of Americans do not believe that birtherism is false or defamatory. I have no idea what your response means. More evasion. I have a problem with vilifying a teenager because of his political and religious views. My view has nothing to go with “birtherism”. But again, I applaud you for at least being honest enough to admit that you approve the vilification of a teenager whom you do not know based upon his political and religious views.
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Post by jld54 on Jan 21, 2019 12:24:41 GMT -5
So please do not deflect by referring to Fox - it suggests that you seek to evade a discussion of the facts. We answered your questions. Does it makes sense to wear MAGA gear to a Rally for Life given the number of abortions that Donald Trump has paid for? You are, respectfully, twisting yourself in a pretzel to justify vilification if a person based upon his apparent religious views. I do not think it is proper to do so. Do you agree with the concept of freedom of religion and association? Or are such rights reserved only for those with whom you agree? I have no knowledge if Trump paid for an abortion in the past — even if he did please explain how this justifies vilification of a person like this teenager?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 12:39:05 GMT -5
Reminder: millions of Americans do not believe that birtherism is false or defamatory. I have no idea what your response means. More evasion. I have a problem with vilifying a teenager because of his political and religious views. My view has nothing to go with “birtherism”. But again, I applaud you for at least being honest enough to admit that you approve the vilification of a teenager whom you do not know based upon his political and religious views. 🤔
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Post by hoya9797 on Jan 21, 2019 12:40:01 GMT -5
I think both religious people and MAGA people should be loudly vilified. Both religion and the MAGA movement are stupid and harmful and we should not use any half measures to get rid of both.
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