Elvado
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Post by Elvado on Jul 10, 2017 8:48:24 GMT -5
They should all be investigated, and if the facts warrant it, be indicted and tried.
Just like Hillary, Huma, Cheryl, oops...
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TC
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Post by TC on Jul 10, 2017 9:00:41 GMT -5
Is he flat out saying he's giving our country away here? Why else draw the parallel?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 9:33:24 GMT -5
They should all be investigated, and if the facts warrant it, be indicted and tried. Correct... No amount of deflection will diminish this truth... |
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Elvado
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Post by Elvado on Jul 10, 2017 9:45:00 GMT -5
They should all be investigated, and if the facts warrant it, be indicted and tried. Correct... No amount of deflection will diminish this truth... We agree. They should be fully investigated. Then indicted and tried if facts support same. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 9:54:27 GMT -5
"It’s no longer Donald Trump in the spotlight. It’s the Republican leaders in Congress," writes @davidfrum. www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/07/will-congress-hold-russia-accountable-for-the-behavior-trump-excuses/533058/From the start of the Trump-Russia story, there have been many secrets, but no mysteries. Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election to help Donald Trump. Donald Trump publicly welcomed that help, and integrated the fruits of Russian intervention into his closing campaign argument. (“I love WikiLeaks!”) Since being elected, he has attempted to tilt American policy toward Russia, above all by his persistent and repeated attempts to lift the sanctions imposed by President Obama to punish Russia for its invasion of Crimea in 2014 and for its election-meddling in 2016. __ The question now turns to the rest of the American political system. Senate Majority Leader McConnell warned Obama against taking action against Russia during the election. Whatever is said of Obama’s decisions, one of Obama’s motives for inaction was the knowledge that congressional Republicans would take Trump’s and Russia’s side if he tried to act. Congressional investigations into Russian meddling have been stalled (in the Senate) and outright sabotaged (in the House). Even as Trump in Hamburg absolved Putin of consequences for election interference, House Speaker Paul Ryan, at the behest of Trump, is stalling in the House the measures the Senate approved 97-2 to prevent Trump from lifting existing sanctions on Russia. It’s fine for Republicans like Senator Marco Rubio to tweet sarcastic comments about Trump’s plans for cyber cooperation with Russia. Congress can do more than tweet—if it chooses. It’s no longer Donald Trump in the spotlight. It’s the Republican leaders in Congress. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 14:22:02 GMT -5
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prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Jul 10, 2017 15:31:18 GMT -5
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Post by tashoya on Jul 10, 2017 19:27:22 GMT -5
Don't forget her fees from the speaking engagements. Thank goodness we have a president that isn't financially entwined with or beholden to anyone! |
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Post by hoyarooter on Jul 10, 2017 19:42:25 GMT -5
I was praying that Trump's kissing Putin's ass during the campaign was a ploy; that after being elected, he would say thanks for your help getting me elected, Vladi, but I have no intention of putting up with your shenanigans any longer, and going forward I will take such actions as are necessary to protect the interests of the United States of America. Boy, was I deluded. Trump continues to be nothing but Putin's lap dog. SAD.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 20:28:49 GMT -5
Oh.....
Russians send an email saying they want to boost Trump and Don Jr says, when do we meet?? That's awesome.. Go USA....
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 21:02:11 GMT -5
So........after all of the hand-wringing from Republicans about Hillary's emails, the smoking gun of collusion between Team Trump and Russia may end up being.......email.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2017 6:26:17 GMT -5
Don JR's acceptance of this meeting sent the message back to the Kremlin the Trump's wanted to play ball. Don't think they needed to draw up contractual agreements...
Kushner failed to disclose on his security forms he was at the meeting. One of at least three meetings with the Russians he somehow forgot about. That means he's been exposed to blackmail for months yet he still has security clearance. Can anybody explain that one?
Russian's had already hacked the DNC at that point and could have used the info for intelligence purposes. They chose to weaponize it. They began that process after this meeting. If you believe Don Jr saying he passed because the info wasn't good enough, well the same people had the good info he craved and started dropping it right after....
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2017 8:15:45 GMT -5
Junior's defense against collusion here is basically the same as the guys who show up at the house on "To Catch a Predator".
"Well, you see, she said that she had something for me and I thought I wanted it but now that I'm here I can see that it's not what I actually thought it was and - come to think of it - I'm not sure that I ever really wanted it in the first place..."
All that's missing are the wine coolers and condoms.
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Post by SSHoya on Jul 11, 2017 8:47:16 GMT -5
Time to drop the word "collusion" and use "conspiracy." www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/07/11/donald-trump-jr-may-have-just-crossed-the-legal-line-on-collusion/?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_fix-930am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.f68830b769d3The problem with dwelling too much on the covert forms of collaboration, which we have come to call “collusion,” is that doing so risks letting Trump at least a little bit off the hook for what is not meaningfully disputed: that the president publicly, knowingly, and repeatedly (if only tacitly) collaborated with a foreign power’s intelligence effort to interfere in the presidential election of the country he now leads. Focusing on covert collusion risks putting the lines of propriety, acceptable candidate behavior, and even (let’s be frank) patriotism in such a place where openly encouraging foreign dictators to hack your domestic opponent’s emails falls on the tolerable side. It risks accepting that all is okay with the Trump-Russia relationship unless some secret or illegal additional element actually involves illicit contacts between the campaign and Russian operatives. Yet it’s hard to imagine how any scandal of illegality could eclipse the scandal of legality which requires no investigation and has lain bare before our eyes for months. But it is this very distinction, in which Trump’s own defenders are so heavily invested, that now appears poised to crumble. Over the past two weeks, two major stories have developed suggesting that there may, after all, have been covert contacts, meetings, and agreements between the Trump campaign and the Russians. www.lawfareblog.com/wall-begins-crumble-notes-collusion |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2017 10:25:19 GMT -5
Junior's response to the above email was: "Russian dirt on Clinton? I Love it!"
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TC
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Post by TC on Jul 11, 2017 10:25:22 GMT -5
I don't understand what's going on here. I get the strategy that you release things for transparency when you absolutely know they are going to hit in the next five minutes. However, when your whole defense is "the news is fake" why are you proving it to be 100% real by completely substantiating it?
That's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for them.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2017 10:55:10 GMT -5
I don't understand what's going on here. I get the strategy that you release things for transparency when you absolutely know they are going to hit in the next five minutes. However, when your whole defense is "the news is fake" why are you proving it to be 100% real by completely substantiating it? That's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for them. "A clever ruse to prepare for a plea of not guilty by virtue of being the dumbest person in the universe" BTW if you look at the top of the page he forwarded the entire email chain to Jared and Paulie. Previously he stated they didn't know who they were meeting with beforehand. |
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Post by hoyainspirit on Jul 11, 2017 11:27:49 GMT -5
An inept crime family now runs the country...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2017 11:43:58 GMT -5
Devos' bro and Blackwater CEO Erik Prince. Last seen trying to set up covert communication between the Trump camp and the Kremlin camp in Seychelles...
Article states Bannon and Kushner were proposing privatizing military in Afghanistan and turning it over to Eric Prince. They thought it was such a good idea they went to Mattis with this proposal...
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Post by SSHoya on Jul 11, 2017 12:25:38 GMT -5
I don't understand what's going on here. I get the strategy that you release things for transparency when you absolutely know they are going to hit in the next five minutes. However, when your whole defense is "the news is fake" why are you proving it to be 100% real by completely substantiating it? That's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for them. My only guess is that whoever's been leaking all the previous information was going to leak all the e-mails and this is Junior's desperate attempt to get ahead of the story --- although, as you say, it destroys the entire White House strategy of calling the Russian story "fake news". It also starkly demonstrates what a group of liars are on the White House staff and sort of throws them under the bus. |
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