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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 7, 2015 20:01:11 GMT -5
Plus as sleepy said, we had Tyler foul intentionally; given our proclivity for fouling at least 10 times a half, that pretty much assured they would get 2 extra free throws in the first half. Not our fault they could not make them.
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Post by Filo on Mar 7, 2015 20:03:43 GMT -5
That was a DB article by Politi. Trying to manufacture a story. Don't let the facts get in the way of a good story. For example, we pressed after the bucket. Right. Don't pay attention to that timeout that was taken. That doesn't support the narrative. What a turd.
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Post by grandmahoya on Mar 7, 2015 20:20:06 GMT -5
I am sure if the situation were reversed, JTIII would have granted Kevin Willard the same courtesy. It's a shame with such a feel good story, that some reporter has to take such a cheap shot. Must have been a slow news day.
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 7, 2015 20:30:55 GMT -5
Politi wasn't actually AT the game, so take anything he writes with a 40 pound bag of salt.
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Post by guru on Mar 7, 2015 20:38:16 GMT -5
I'm sure this was mentioned somewhere downthread, but how awesome were the unis today? Warmed my heart. I believe they were 1989 vintage. Just fantastic. Keep wearing 'em. They worked!
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Post by JohnnyJones on Mar 7, 2015 21:04:02 GMT -5
DSR misses the game with an injury. . .Jabril Trawick takes over like a senior should. . .Joshua Smith and Mikael Hopkins dominate at center without getting into foul trouble. . .Tre Campbell emerges as a legitimate point guard. . .the Hoyas don't trail at all during the game. . .Tyler Adams gets one more chance to play. . .and Butler shocks Providence to give GU the #2 seed in the Big East Conference Tournament. And the non-issue of JT3's response, proper or otherwise, to a grand gesture by Seton Hall's coach and players is all that we can discuss? I thought we were better than this, but I'm obviously mistaken. Give me a break. I agree with Guru 100%. I was at the game. As long as DSR is ok, it was just about a perfect day the way our game went (including all of the things you mention above), coupled with the Butler result. But I also thought it was a little weird that we did not reciprocate on the 1st posession. Not a huge deal, but it is too bad that there is even a slight taint/negative out there (even if just one rogue writer in NJ) about what was otherwise an incredible feel good story. What is wrong with bringing that up? This is a message board. Everyone is talking about all of the positives / great things about today - nothing wrong with this issue being discussed. FWIW (and not sure if this has been mentioned), I was also a tiny bit disappointed Jabril went in for that dunk at the end. I am not sure what the right answer is there - but if it were me I would have pulled it out. And to be clear - Jabril was amazing today. His emotion during the ceremony was touching, and he played an incredible game. I have been on cloud nine all day. Not trying to bring anyone down - but posters should be able to raise and discuss these things without getting attacked or their motives questioned.
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 7, 2015 21:08:08 GMT -5
Thank God Jabril did not do a 360 on that one!
While we're on the subject of downers, what about that SHU 3-pointer at the buzzer? Yeesh!
Agree 100% with JJ - discussion is why this place exists.
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Post by datombz on Mar 7, 2015 21:12:35 GMT -5
Where can I find full highlights from the game?
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Post by JohnnyJones on Mar 7, 2015 21:14:53 GMT -5
Where can I find full highlights from the game? If you live in the DC area, c'mon over. I will happily watch the whole thing over again!
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Post by kchoya on Mar 7, 2015 21:35:55 GMT -5
I'm sure this was mentioned somewhere downthread, but how awesome were the unis today? Warmed my heart. I believe they were 1989 vintage. Just fantastic. Keep wearing 'em. They worked! You're just a shill for Nike
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Mar 7, 2015 23:21:44 GMT -5
Good win especially without DSR last second.
I was going to say, not playing DSR is spotting them way more than 2 points generally.
It's winning time. Hope we are peaking at the right time
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Post by blueandgray on Mar 7, 2015 23:33:21 GMT -5
Politi wasn't actually AT the game, so take anything he writes with a 40 pound bag of salt. I loved the move by Willard and thought that the Pirates as a whole showed a lot of class by cheering on Tyler. A bunch of us at the game were confused that we didn't reciprocate and on more than one occasion discussed how awkward it would be if we won by only one or two. Thankfully, at the end of the day, we win that game whether they give us the bucket or not
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Post by drquigley on Mar 7, 2015 23:40:05 GMT -5
Returned to my seats in the 400 section for today's game. One great thing about these seats is that you really get to see the whole court and appreciate how well, or poorly, the teams offensive and defensive schemes are working. Two quick observations. One, our 2-3 zone was HORRENDOUS. Guys in the back, were awful. We really better improve on that for the upcoming tourneys. Two, Seton Hall is very well coached. They picked our zone apart. If their wide open guys hadn't let passes go through their hands or made chippies we could have been in trouble. Kudos for Traws although several of his drives to the bucket were way out of control. And I share all the concerns about White. Something going on there. He acts like he doesn't have a clue. Oh yeah, one more thing. A game wouldn't be complete without a Reggie 3 point clanger. I swear, he has added a whole new dimension to the missed 3 point shot. And as good as Tre played, we really need DSR especially in the last 5 minutes of a game.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2015 0:56:30 GMT -5
DSR misses the game with an injury. . .Jabril Trawick takes over like a senior should. . .Joshua Smith and Mikael Hopkins dominate at center without getting into foul trouble. . .Tre Campbell emerges as a legitimate point guard. . .the Hoyas don't trail at all during the game. . .Tyler Adams gets one more chance to play. . .and Butler shocks Providence to give GU the #2 seed in the Big East Conference Tournament. And the non-issue of JT3's response, proper or otherwise, to a grand gesture by Seton Hall's coach and players is all that we can discuss? I thought we were better than this, but I'm obviously mistaken. Give me a break. I agree with Guru 100%. I was at the game. As long as DSR is ok, it was just about a perfect day the way our game went (including all of the things you mention above), coupled with the Butler result. But I also thought it was a little weird that we did not reciprocate on the 1st posession. Not a huge deal, but it is too bad that there is even a slight taint/negative out there (even if just one rogue writer in NJ) about what was otherwise an incredible feel good story. What is wrong with bringing that up? This is a message board. Everyone is talking about all of the positives / great things about today - nothing wrong with this issue being discussed. FWIW (and not sure if this has been mentioned), I was also a tiny bit disappointed Jabril went in for that dunk at the end. I am not sure what the right answer is there - but if it were me I would have pulled it out. And to be clear - Jabril was amazing today. His emotion during the ceremony was touching, and he played an incredible game. I have been on cloud nine all day. Not trying to bring anyone down - but posters should be able to raise and discuss these things without getting attacked or their motives questioned. I have to agree with both points. For a program that likes to think of itself as classy they shoulda gave seton hall a bucket on the other end. For people saying "well that woulda made Tyler feel bad" let's grow up and realize it was a nice sentiment but that nobody was confused about what went down. Trading a basket woulda illustrated our own graciousness and in no way diminished the moment. Shu shoulda had the opportunity to start the game from equal standing. And as much as I like jabril, the dude just can't help himself. You're a senior, hold the ball and just let the clock run out.... I find myself sycophantically defending the program sometimes but I think an honest look at how we handled this shows we were in the wrong. It's healthy to be able to admit we made a mistake and i hope jt3 reaches out to Willard privately.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2015 1:03:12 GMT -5
I'm sure this was mentioned somewhere downthread, but how awesome were the unis today? Warmed my heart. I believe they were 1989 vintage. Just fantastic. Keep wearing 'em. They worked! You're just a shill for Nike I'm mostly an underarmour guy and I liked the jerseys.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2015 1:07:10 GMT -5
That was a DB article by Politi. Trying to manufacture a story. Don't let the facts get in the way of a good story. For example, we pressed after the bucket. Right. Don't pay attention to that timeout that was taken. That doesn't support the narrative. What a turd. Wouldn't be surprised if somebody at SHU gave Politi that narrative. Gotta distract from the season they're having. And no while we didn't press, Tre picked up full court defense on the inbounds....
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Post by kchoya on Mar 8, 2015 1:26:15 GMT -5
Give me a break. I agree with Guru 100%. I was at the game. As long as DSR is ok, it was just about a perfect day the way our game went (including all of the things you mention above), coupled with the Butler result. But I also thought it was a little weird that we did not reciprocate on the 1st posession. Not a huge deal, but it is too bad that there is even a slight taint/negative out there (even if just one rogue writer in NJ) about what was otherwise an incredible feel good story. What is wrong with bringing that up? This is a message board. Everyone is talking about all of the positives / great things about today - nothing wrong with this issue being discussed. FWIW (and not sure if this has been mentioned), I was also a tiny bit disappointed Jabril went in for that dunk at the end. I am not sure what the right answer is there - but if it were me I would have pulled it out. And to be clear - Jabril was amazing today. His emotion during the ceremony was touching, and he played an incredible game. I have been on cloud nine all day. Not trying to bring anyone down - but posters should be able to raise and discuss these things without getting attacked or their motives questioned. I have to agree with both points. For a program that likes to think of itself as classy they shoulda gave seton hall a bucket on the other end. For people saying "well that woulda made Tyler feel bad" let's grow up and realize it was a nice sentiment but that nobody was confused about what went down. Trading a basket woulda illustrated our own graciousness and in no way diminished the moment. Shu shoulda had the opportunity to start the game from equal standing. And as much as I like jabril, the dude just can't help himself. You're a senior, hold the ball and just let the clock run out.... I find myself sycophantically defending the program sometimes but I think an honest look at how we handled this shows we were in the wrong. It's healthy to be able to admit we made a mistake and i hope jt3 reaches out to Willard privately. Just admit it. You're wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2015 5:09:50 GMT -5
I have to agree with both points. For a program that likes to think of itself as classy they shoulda gave seton hall a bucket on the other end. For people saying "well that woulda made Tyler feel bad" let's grow up and realize it was a nice sentiment but that nobody was confused about what went down. Trading a basket woulda illustrated our own graciousness and in no way diminished the moment. Shu shoulda had the opportunity to start the game from equal standing. And as much as I like jabril, the dude just can't help himself. You're a senior, hold the ball and just let the clock run out.... I find myself sycophantically defending the program sometimes but I think an honest look at how we handled this shows we were in the wrong. It's healthy to be able to admit we made a mistake and i hope jt3 reaches out to Willard privately. Just admit it. You're wrong. Not at all. I think my take is the more obviously intuitive approach to the situation which is, generally speaking, "do the right thing." Anyway, I think i laid out my reasons above pretty clearly so it's not just reactionary anti-jt3 or anti-jabril screed. If anyone needs to just admit it and say they're wrong it's the people acting like it's no big deal. I understand the desire to want to say our program is in the right but pretty much all social norms dictate otherwise. Now having said that, i respect that you're entitled to your own opinion. You might have different concepts of etiquette, fair play or just what amounts to sportsmanship. (The Larry David avatar makes me think that's what's going on here. God knows he'd never have given them a free basket.) Or maybe you just defend what the program does no matter what. Honestly any of those are fine but we are just worlds apart on assessing what went down and i don't think your comment will change anyone's mind.
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Post by flyoverhoya on Mar 8, 2015 7:25:16 GMT -5
That was a DB article by Politi. Trying to manufacture a story. Don't let the facts get in the way of a good story. For example, we pressed after the bucket. Right. Don't pay attention to that timeout that was taken. That doesn't support the narrative. What a turd. Wouldn't be surprised if somebody at SHU gave Politi that narrative. Gotta distract from the season they're having. And no while we didn't press, Tre picked up full court defense on the inbounds.... I watched the sequence several times yesterday, and it looked to me as if Tre was trying to foul on the inbound. The cameras and the commentators all followed Tyler, and it's still not clear to me whether the clock stopped for a timeout or a foul. Either way, we swapped something for the basket.
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 8, 2015 7:31:43 GMT -5
The official PBP shows Adams with a foul at 19:45 (as III was trying to call a timeout).
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