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Post by prhoya on Feb 19, 2015 21:26:53 GMT -5
We would fair better versus Duke than UNC. UNC's frontcourt is very talented but they are inconsistent. When UNC is motivated and playing at least their B game, I do not think we could handle them. Duke on the other hand is very beatable because they play lousy defense. They give up so many high % looks and their rebounding is questionable. They rely too much on jump shooting to win. This makes them very beatable outside of Cameron. Honestly, I would have no fear of seeing Duke in our bracket. Bull Edited I watched the game last night and I don't think UNC or Duke would run us out of the building, especially in a neutral building. In fact, I would like Duke to be the #1 seed in our bracket. From what I saw, they are ACC soft and would not be used to our defensive toughness. Cook, a 40% 3-pt shooter, went out of mind with a 6 of 9 performance. Other than Cook and Jones, they are not a good FT shooting team. The refs were loose. If we don't have a game like in Nova, i.e. if we don't suck, we have a pretty good chance of winning.
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Post by njhoya78 on Feb 19, 2015 21:30:48 GMT -5
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FINAL SCORES St. Francis (New York)* 70, Fairleigh Dickinson 54 Sacred Heart* 80, Robert Morris 76 #16 Maryland* 69, Nebraska 65 #21 Southern Methodist* 67, Temple 58 Louisiana Tech 83, North Carolina Charlotte* 82; overtime Purdue 67, Indiana* 63
IN THE FIRST HALF #7 Arizona* 35, Southern California 22 (7:32 to play)
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Post by hoyarooter on Feb 19, 2015 21:48:27 GMT -5
"If we don't have a game like in Nova, i.e. if we don't suck, we have a pretty good chance of winning."
This can be our motto going into the NCAA Tournament, and it will hold true regardless of whether we play Ohio, Florida Gulf Coast, Duke or Arizona.
History has shown that if we suck, there's no team we can't lose to. But if we play well, we'll have a shot against any team (except maybe Kentucky). Not rocket science.
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Post by njhoya78 on Feb 19, 2015 21:57:44 GMT -5
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FINAL SCORES St. Francis (New York)* 70, Fairleigh Dickinson 54 Sacred Heart* 80, Robert Morris 76 #16 Maryland* 69, Nebraska 65 #21 Southern Methodist* 67, Temple 58 Louisiana Tech 83, North Carolina Charlotte* 82; overtime Purdue 67, Indiana* 63
AT HALFTIME #7 Arizona* 49, Southern California 31
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Post by tashoya on Feb 19, 2015 22:05:24 GMT -5
"If we don't have a game like in Nova, i.e. if we don't suck, we have a pretty good chance of winning." This can be our motto going into the NCAA Tournament, and it will hold true regardless of whether we play Ohio, Florida Gulf Coast, Duke or Arizona. History has shown that if we suck, there's no team we can't lose to. But if we play well, we'll have a shot against any team (except maybe Kentucky). Not rocket science. This is true as there is more parity across the country than maybe 10 years ago. That said, I think his/her point was that Duke isn't all that special and, if that was the point being made, I'd have to agree. Usually there are a handful of teams with a decent separation in talent/skill than the rest of the field. Duke doesn't have that luxury this year.
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Post by njhoya78 on Feb 19, 2015 22:32:18 GMT -5
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FINAL SCORES St. Francis (New York)* 70, Fairleigh Dickinson 54 Sacred Heart* 80, Robert Morris 76 #16 Maryland* 69, Nebraska 65 #21 Southern Methodist* 67, Temple 58 Louisiana Tech 83, North Carolina Charlotte* 82; overtime Purdue 67, Indiana* 63
IN THE SECOND HALF #7 Arizona* 68, Southern California 43 (11:20 to play)
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Post by hoyazeke on Feb 19, 2015 22:51:57 GMT -5
I watched the game last night and I don't think UNC or Duke would run us out of the building, especially in a neutral building. In fact, I would like Duke to be the #1 seed in our bracket. From what I saw, they are ACC soft and would not be used to our defensive toughness. Cook, a 40% 3-pt shooter, went out of mind with a 6 of 9 performance. Other than Cook and Jones, they are not a good FT shooting team. The refs were loose. If we don't have a game like in Nova, i.e. if we don't suck, we have a pretty good chance of winning. Not to mention that Duke is playing 6-7 players. I still believe that because of their ability to shoot the 3 they are a bad matchup but the game would be close. I think we could wear them down if we handled their initial run.
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njhoya78
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Post by njhoya78 on Feb 19, 2015 22:58:25 GMT -5
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FINAL SCORES St. Francis (New York)* 70, Fairleigh Dickinson 54 Sacred Heart* 80, Robert Morris 76 #16 Maryland* 69, Nebraska 65 #21 Southern Methodist* 67, Temple 58 Louisiana Tech 83, North Carolina Charlotte* 82; overtime Purdue 67, Indiana* 63
IN THE SECOND HALF #7 Arizona* 85, Southern California 55 (3:05 to play)
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Post by flyoverhoya on Feb 19, 2015 23:08:59 GMT -5
Saw some of the Purdue - Indiana game. Purdue was listed as "first four out" before winning the game. They are clearly a better team than IU, however.
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Post by njhoya78 on Feb 19, 2015 23:31:13 GMT -5
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FINAL SCORES St. Francis (New York)* 70, Fairleigh Dickinson 54 Sacred Heart* 80, Robert Morris 76 #16 Maryland* 69, Nebraska 65 #21 Southern Methodist* 67, Temple 58 Louisiana Tech 83, North Carolina Charlotte* 82; overtime Purdue 67, Indiana* 63 #7 Arizona* 87, Southern California 57
IN THE FIRST HALF #3 Gonzaga 27, Pacific* 19 (9:20 to play) #9 Utah 10, Oregon State* 6 (9:54)
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Post by njhoya78 on Feb 19, 2015 23:58:31 GMT -5
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FINAL SCORES St. Francis (New York)* 70, Fairleigh Dickinson 54 Sacred Heart* 80, Robert Morris 76 #16 Maryland* 69, Nebraska 65 #21 Southern Methodist* 67, Temple 58 Louisiana Tech 83, North Carolina Charlotte* 82; overtime Purdue 67, Indiana* 63 #7 Arizona* 87, Southern California 57
AT HALFTIME #3 Gonzaga 45, Pacific* 37 #9 Utah 16, Oregon State* 14
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Post by njhoya78 on Feb 20, 2015 0:35:00 GMT -5
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FINAL SCORES St. Francis (New York)* 70, Fairleigh Dickinson 54 Sacred Heart* 80, Robert Morris 76 #16 Maryland* 69, Nebraska 65 #21 Southern Methodist* 67, Temple 58 Louisiana Tech 83, North Carolina Charlotte* 82; overtime Purdue 67, Indiana* 63 #7 Arizona* 87, Southern California 57
IN THE SECOND HALF #3 Gonzaga 63, Pacific* 55 (8:07 to play) #9 Utah 32, Oregon State* 23 (9:52)
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Post by njhoya78 on Feb 20, 2015 1:05:11 GMT -5
*- home team
FINAL SCORES St. Francis (New York)* 70, Fairleigh Dickinson 54 Sacred Heart* 80, Robert Morris 76 #16 Maryland* 69, Nebraska 65 #21 Southern Methodist* 67, Temple 58 Louisiana Tech 83, North Carolina Charlotte* 82; overtime Purdue 67, Indiana* 63 #7 Arizona* 87, Southern California 57 #3 Gonzaga 86, Pacific* 74 #9 Utah 47, Oregon State* 37
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Feb 20, 2015 9:18:45 GMT -5
For what it's worth, facing Duke anytime on the first weekend would be a really bad matchup because Duke has a good chance of being placed in Charlotte. It might not be Cameron, but I will pass on playing Duke in its home state.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Feb 20, 2015 10:35:45 GMT -5
So I guess you disagree, great reasoning, thanks. If you think Duke is that great, we will agree to disagree. They are soft and play no defense, two things that matter in the tournament. Sure, they can shoot and if they go nuts from 3, oh well. They are easily the #1 seed I would want in my bracket because so much of their success is based on playing in Cameron. Okafor is great, but we have enough bodies to keep him on FT line. Not sure why people fear Duke so much. And as has been pointed out, they cannot play zone defense. I don't think he thinks Duke is great. I think he's saying it's BS that we couldn't handle UNC.
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Post by TBird41 on Feb 20, 2015 10:37:00 GMT -5
Wow. Jamie Dixon? Jim Larrañaga? Fran McCaffery? Mark Gottfried? It's not like you to miss sarcasm. Yeah, that was all sarcasm.
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Post by JohnnyJones on Feb 20, 2015 10:50:31 GMT -5
So I guess you disagree, great reasoning, thanks. If you think Duke is that great, we will agree to disagree. They are soft and play no defense, two things that matter in the tournament. Sure, they can shoot and if they go nuts from 3, oh well. They are easily the #1 seed I would want in my bracket because so much of their success is based on playing in Cameron. Okafor is great, but we have enough bodies to keep him on FT line. Not sure why people fear Duke so much. And as has been pointed out, they cannot play zone defense. Away from Cameron, Duke has beaten Michigan State, Temple, Stanford, Wisconsin, Connecticut, Louisville, St. John's, Virginia and Syracuse. I wish we struggled away from home like that.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Feb 20, 2015 10:58:52 GMT -5
So I guess you disagree, great reasoning, thanks. If you think Duke is that great, we will agree to disagree. They are soft and play no defense, two things that matter in the tournament. Sure, they can shoot and if they go nuts from 3, oh well. They are easily the #1 seed I would want in my bracket because so much of their success is based on playing in Cameron. Okafor is great, but we have enough bodies to keep him on FT line. Not sure why people fear Duke so much. And as has been pointed out, they cannot play zone defense. Sorry. Here is what I meant: Bull.
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Post by NCHoya on Feb 20, 2015 11:14:51 GMT -5
So I guess you disagree, great reasoning, thanks. If you think Duke is that great, we will agree to disagree. They are soft and play no defense, two things that matter in the tournament. Sure, they can shoot and if they go nuts from 3, oh well. They are easily the #1 seed I would want in my bracket because so much of their success is based on playing in Cameron. Okafor is great, but we have enough bodies to keep him on FT line. Not sure why people fear Duke so much. And as has been pointed out, they cannot play zone defense. Sorry. Here is what I meant: Bull Edited. OK, at least I know what you are calling BS. I am done with hypothetical conversations, there is no right answer. My bad for continuing an unproductive conversation, I deleted my other posts.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Feb 20, 2015 11:25:39 GMT -5
I have no idea why you deleted your other posts, but then again, I also fail to see why we would not be able to handle a team that has lost to Butler, Iowa and Pitt -- so they have their share of losses similar to ours, and whose only real big wins are a 1 point win over the Ville at home and nice but early neutral court win over Ohio State.
I mean, maybe they are constantly bringing their "C" game, but there's really no indication that this team is out of our league.
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