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Post by RockawayHoya on Feb 9, 2015 10:32:50 GMT -5
One thing that I've been very disappointed in during these last few games is the our ability to get Josh in an offensive position where he can do damage. This is partly due to how teams are playing us defensively, but there have also been several instances where one of the following happens:
-Josh gets the ball in good position, but is quickly doubled and he fails to recognize this and find the open man... leads to a turnover
-The entry pass is poor (IMO this was done a lot better earlier in the year and has gone downhill significantly in reason games)... leads to a turnover
-Josh makes the correct decision when caught in trouble in a bad post position and kicks back out to the perimeter, and quickly resets to a better position where he should immediately receive a re-post, only the perimeter player never gives it back to him (again, IMO this was done a lot better earlier in the year and we've regressed in this area)... usually leads to a poorer shot than we could've gotten... or worse...
Thankfully, all of these problems can be fixed. These things are more about mental awareness and decision-making than anything our opponent is doing to us. If we can get Josh back to being the guy who draws a ton of fouls on the other team (and he will need to do that against Delgado tomorrow) instead of the other way around, then we won't be facing such a huge foul deficit in the 1st half like we've seen lately. It's imperative that Josh not only gets himself to the line when his position is advantageous, but the rest of the team as well simply by racking up fouls on the opposing frontline and getting us closer to the bonus earlier.
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Post by guru on Feb 9, 2015 10:44:10 GMT -5
The pollyannas seem to be distinctly absent from this game preview thread, so I may be able to call this game what it is without being overrun by platitudes and meaningless statistics:
This game is the season, and will go a long way toward revealing this team's character. A win isn't totally required, but a complete reversal of recent efforts certainly is.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 9, 2015 11:02:36 GMT -5
The pollyannas seem to be distinctly absent from this game preview thread, so I may be able to call this game what it is without being overrun by platitudes and meaningless statistics: This game is the season, and will go a long way toward revealing this team's character. A win isn't totally required, but a complete reversal of recent efforts certainly is. 100%
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Post by williambraskyiii on Feb 9, 2015 11:10:38 GMT -5
The pollyannas seem to be distinctly absent from this game preview thread, so I may be able to call this game what it is without being overrun by platitudes and meaningless statistics: This game is the season, and will go a long way toward revealing this team's character. A win isn't totally required, but a complete reversal of recent efforts certainly is. 100% This team is headed to 10-8, if we're lucky. Finish 10-8, win first round BET game, go to tournament in 8-10 range, hopefully make a little noise, end season on a high note.
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Post by GUJook97 on Feb 9, 2015 12:02:52 GMT -5
This team is headed to 10-8, if we're lucky. Finish 10-8, win first round BET game, go to tournament in 8-10 range, hopefully make a little noise, end season on a high note. Yeah, just like last year, those 2 home losses really hurt. I know Xavier and Providence are much, much better than Seton Hall and Marquette last year, but it hard to get to 12-6, 11-7 when you cant win all your home games.
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Post by lda05816 on Feb 9, 2015 13:30:07 GMT -5
This team still needs to do a lot wrong to miss the tournament. I know the 8 losses are more than we would like to see but there are 0 bad losses on the resume and the computer numbers are crazy good given the record. The committee, in the past, loves to reward teams with a great schedule, specifically Non-conf. Coming down the stretch, need to win the home games and steal at least 1 on the road. If we do that and win a game or 2 in the BET, think this team will settle in the 6 seed range. Totally agree with the notion this game is more important for confidence though.
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Post by Big Dog on Feb 9, 2015 14:59:15 GMT -5
The pollyannas seem to be distinctly absent from this game preview thread, so I may be able to call this game what it is without being overrun by platitudes and meaningless statistics: This game is the season, and will go a long way toward revealing this team's character. A win isn't totally required, but a complete reversal of recent efforts certainly is. I don't want a 3-game losing streak by any means, but the must-win remaining games are the 3 home games. Win those 3, and we are dancing no matter what else occurs (even if that dancing commences in Dayton).
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Post by KHoyaNYC on Feb 9, 2015 16:24:10 GMT -5
The pollyannas seem to be distinctly absent from this game preview thread, so I may be able to call this game what it is without being overrun by platitudes and meaningless statistics: This game is the season, and will go a long way toward revealing this team's character. A win isn't totally required, but a complete reversal of recent efforts certainly is. I don't want a 3-game losing streak by any means, but the must-win remaining games are the 3 home games. Win those 3, and we are dancing no matter what else occurs (even if that dancing commences in Dayton). That's right. Keep something else in mind: Right now both St John's and Seton Hall are outside the RPI top 50 and obviously so is Depaul, so 5 of our last 6 games are versus sub-50 RPI teams. Ideally we win all of them but at a minimum we want to go 3-2 to keep ourselves out of any serious bubble danger and damaging our tournament resume too much. A loss to Depaul would, in particular, really hurt our computer numbers to the tune of dropping roughly 10-15 RPI spots.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Feb 9, 2015 17:06:58 GMT -5
I don't want a 3-game losing streak by any means, but the must-win remaining games are the 3 home games. Win those 3, and we are dancing no matter what else occurs (even if that dancing commences in Dayton). That's right. Keep something else in mind: Right now both St John's and Seton Hall are outside the RPI top 50 and obviously so is Depaul, so 5 of our last 6 games are versus sub-50 RPI teams. Ideally we win all of them but at a minimum we want to go 3-2 to keep ourselves out of any serious bubble danger and damaging our tournament resume too much. A loss to Depaul would, in particular, really hurt our computer numbers to the tune of dropping roughly 10-15 RPI spots. Can I also just say; we're better than Seton Hall. St. Johns in the Garden who knows but we should sweep Seton Hall. If the Hoyas were ever a bad matchup for a decent team this is it.
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Post by professorhoya on Feb 9, 2015 17:15:02 GMT -5
The pollyannas seem to be distinctly absent from this game preview thread, so I may be able to call this game what it is without being overrun by platitudes and meaningless statistics: This game is the season, and will go a long way toward revealing this team's character. A win isn't totally required, but a complete reversal of recent efforts certainly is. Well he who must not be named and his minions have not invaded the thread yet. That usually happens during and after the game (assuming it's a loss).
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Post by lichoya68 on Feb 9, 2015 19:30:55 GMT -5
nine and nine would be fine ten and eight would be great and now eleven and seven would be heaven GO HOYAS must hustle for forty minutes OR MORE> yup d and o HUSTLE first to the 50-50 balls. PLEASE its february now yup hoya time. This game will show if we got what it takes. go hoyas PS ill be down from my computer till after teh regular season when HOPEfully a new computer will arrive and work Big problems with this one g hoyas but lichoya will be silent not by choice for then next month or so till BIG EAST go hoysaxa
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Feb 9, 2015 21:06:44 GMT -5
We will miss you, Lic. Hoya saxa.
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Post by Buckets on Feb 9, 2015 21:31:37 GMT -5
This team still needs to do a lot wrong to miss the tournament. I know the 8 losses are more than we would like to see but there are 0 bad losses on the resume and the computer numbers are crazy good given the record. The committee, in the past, loves to reward teams with a great schedule, specifically Non-conf. Coming down the stretch, need to win the home games and steal at least 1 on the road. If we do that and win a game or 2 in the BET, think this team will settle in the 6 seed range. Totally agree with the notion this game is more important for confidence though. If they play the rest of the way like their season average, they're in the tournament. If they play like they have the last two weeks, they'll be playing in the NIT. They have to do a lot wrong, sure, but they've definitely shown they can do a lot wrong lately. This team is giving me flashbacks to 2008-09 starring Smith and Hopkins as the oft-maligned DaJuan Summers, Trawick as the city-tough guard not quite ready for senior leadership Jessie Sapp, DSR as Wright and Freeman, DSR as the talented but not quite ready to carry a team Wright/Freeman backcourt, talented freshman Isaac Copeland who might not be ready physically to play the post Greg Monroe, and the freshmen supporting cast of White/Peak/Campbell for Clark/Sims. That team was a computer tiger as well, finished a game over .500 and 34th in Pomeroy's rankings. Also one of the most memorably, bafflingly frustrating teams I've ever had the misfortune of watching. So hopefully they turn it around.
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Post by guru on Feb 9, 2015 22:49:10 GMT -5
The pollyannas seem to be distinctly absent from this game preview thread, so I may be able to call this game what it is without being overrun by platitudes and meaningless statistics: This game is the season, and will go a long way toward revealing this team's character. A win isn't totally required, but a complete reversal of recent efforts certainly is. Well he who must not be named and his minions have not invaded the thread yet. That usually happens during and after the game (assuming it's a loss). I have no idea what you're talking about.
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Post by JohnnyJones on Feb 10, 2015 0:39:44 GMT -5
This team still needs to do a lot wrong to miss the tournament. I know the 8 losses are more than we would like to see but there are 0 bad losses on the resume and the computer numbers are crazy good given the record. The committee, in the past, loves to reward teams with a great schedule, specifically Non-conf. Coming down the stretch, need to win the home games and steal at least 1 on the road. If we do that and win a game or 2 in the BET, think this team will settle in the 6 seed range. Totally agree with the notion this game is more important for confidence though. If they play the rest of the way like their season average, they're in the tournament. If they play like they have the last two weeks, they'll be playing in the NIT. They have to do a lot wrong, sure, but they've definitely shown they can do a lot wrong lately. This team is giving me flashbacks to 2008-09 starring Smith and Hopkins as the oft-maligned DaJuan Summers, Trawick as the city-tough guard not quite ready for senior leadership Jessie Sapp, DSR as Wright and Freeman, DSR as the talented but not quite ready to carry a team Wright/Freeman backcourt, talented freshman Isaac Copeland who might not be ready physically to play the post Greg Monroe, and the freshmen supporting cast of White/Peak/Campbell for Clark/Sims. That team was a computer tiger as well, finished a game over .500 and 34th in Pomeroy's rankings. Also one of the most memorably, bafflingly frustrating teams I've ever had the misfortune of watching. So hopefully they turn it around. That '08-'09 season was agony. One painful loss after another. Pure torture. You know things are bad when the highlight of your season in on December 29 (or thereabouts).
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Feb 10, 2015 5:20:37 GMT -5
this is a must win game. this team is going down a path that is leading directly to the NIT. defense is where it has to start. i hope III uses more full court pressure and trapping to try to get this team going. painfully grinding out offense in the half court milking the shot clock is not working.
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Post by lichoya68 on Feb 10, 2015 6:00:06 GMT -5
February hustle for forty minutes or MORE on O and on D nuf said signing off now GO HOYAS IN FEB and MARCH first beat seton hall
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Post by TBird41 on Feb 10, 2015 7:19:06 GMT -5
If they play the rest of the way like their season average, they're in the tournament. If they play like they have the last two weeks, they'll be playing in the NIT. They have to do a lot wrong, sure, but they've definitely shown they can do a lot wrong lately. This team is giving me flashbacks to 2008-09 starring Smith and Hopkins as the oft-maligned DaJuan Summers, Trawick as the city-tough guard not quite ready for senior leadership Jessie Sapp, DSR as Wright and Freeman, DSR as the talented but not quite ready to carry a team Wright/Freeman backcourt, talented freshman Isaac Copeland who might not be ready physically to play the post Greg Monroe, and the freshmen supporting cast of White/Peak/Campbell for Clark/Sims. That team was a computer tiger as well, finished a game over .500 and 34th in Pomeroy's rankings. Also one of the most memorably, bafflingly frustrating teams I've ever had the misfortune of watching. So hopefully they turn it around. That '08-'09 season was agony. One painful loss after another. Pure torture. You know things are bad when the highlight of your season in on December 29 (or thereabouts). They also beat a Nova team that made the Final Four at Nova in late February that year. That team (like last year's team) was maybe two wins away from the tournament.
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Post by lda05816 on Feb 10, 2015 8:03:50 GMT -5
This team still needs to do a lot wrong to miss the tournament. I know the 8 losses are more than we would like to see but there are 0 bad losses on the resume and the computer numbers are crazy good given the record. The committee, in the past, loves to reward teams with a great schedule, specifically Non-conf. Coming down the stretch, need to win the home games and steal at least 1 on the road. If we do that and win a game or 2 in the BET, think this team will settle in the 6 seed range. Totally agree with the notion this game is more important for confidence though. If they play the rest of the way like their season average, they're in the tournament. If they play like they have the last two weeks, they'll be playing in the NIT. They have to do a lot wrong, sure, but they've definitely shown they can do a lot wrong lately. This team is giving me flashbacks to 2008-09 starring Smith and Hopkins as the oft-maligned DaJuan Summers, Trawick as the city-tough guard not quite ready for senior leadership Jessie Sapp, DSR as Wright and Freeman, DSR as the talented but not quite ready to carry a team Wright/Freeman backcourt, talented freshman Isaac Copeland who might not be ready physically to play the post Greg Monroe, and the freshmen supporting cast of White/Peak/Campbell for Clark/Sims. That team was a computer tiger as well, finished a game over .500 and 34th in Pomeroy's rankings. Also one of the most memorably, bafflingly frustrating teams I've ever had the misfortune of watching. So hopefully they turn it around. I totally agree this team can miss the tournament, just think they are in a good spot at the moment and 4-2, or even 3-3 would probably do it. If they go 2-4 or worse down the stretch, they do not deserve to make the tourny. The bubble looks weak but then agaan, I think that is the case every year, especially since they went to 68.
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Post by guru on Feb 10, 2015 8:29:45 GMT -5
If they play the rest of the way like their season average, they're in the tournament. If they play like they have the last two weeks, they'll be playing in the NIT. They have to do a lot wrong, sure, but they've definitely shown they can do a lot wrong lately. This team is giving me flashbacks to 2008-09 starring Smith and Hopkins as the oft-maligned DaJuan Summers, Trawick as the city-tough guard not quite ready for senior leadership Jessie Sapp, DSR as Wright and Freeman, DSR as the talented but not quite ready to carry a team Wright/Freeman backcourt, talented freshman Isaac Copeland who might not be ready physically to play the post Greg Monroe, and the freshmen supporting cast of White/Peak/Campbell for Clark/Sims. That team was a computer tiger as well, finished a game over .500 and 34th in Pomeroy's rankings. Also one of the most memorably, bafflingly frustrating teams I've ever had the misfortune of watching. So hopefully they turn it around. That '08-'09 season was agony. One painful loss after another. Pure torture. You know things are bad when the highlight of your season in on December 29 (or thereabouts). One more scary similarity: that team was still ranked (#25) at the beginning of February.
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