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Post by nychoya3 on May 3, 2016 14:12:01 GMT -5
Ivan Rabb decided to go back to Cal but he was probably a mid first rounder if he declared. Not sure he's the best example. He was also a much more hyped prospect than Jackson Jr. at this point, but there's still plenty of time.
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dense
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Post by dense on May 3, 2016 14:46:34 GMT -5
If he truly is 6'11 now it will be real hard for him if he is projected top 10 to not go which he will be if he keeps at this pace. He is turning into a KG type of player skillset wise.
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Post by hoyaboya on May 3, 2016 16:53:53 GMT -5
If he truly is 6'11 now it will be real hard for him if he is projected top 10 to not go which he will be if he keeps at this pace. He is turning into a KG type of player skillset wise. KG was #1 in his class. JJ Jr. hasn't even been rated in the top 25 by most (any?) recruiting services. |
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Post by trillesthoya on May 3, 2016 17:21:02 GMT -5
If he truly is 6'11 now it will be real hard for him if he is projected top 10 to not go which he will be if he keeps at this pace. He is turning into a KG type of player skillset wise. KG was #1 in his class. JJ Jr. hasn't even been rated in the top 25 by most (any?) recruiting services. There's a big difference between someone saying he has a KG-skillset and someone saying he is the next KG. |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 17:34:56 GMT -5
I see Marcus Camby for JJ personally... Don't forget he's only 17 also. Doesn't really matter what his ranking is it's sure to go up and hard to bet against a good kid that works hard with those bloodlines making the League eventually. Think it takes him a couple years to mature into his game though and he really has no reason to rush..
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dense
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Post by dense on May 3, 2016 18:10:14 GMT -5
I see Marcus Camby for JJ personally... Don't forget he's only 17 also. Doesn't really matter what his ranking is it's sure to go up and hard to bet against a good kid that works hard with those bloodlines making the League eventually. Think it takes him a couple years to mature into his game though and he really has no reason to rush.. Thats a nice sentiment but no matter if your parents have money or not 6'11 guys who can handle the ball and have a credible outside game don't hang around college for very long especially if they dont project into soley interior players. |
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Post by dense on May 3, 2016 18:11:48 GMT -5
If he truly is 6'11 now it will be real hard for him if he is projected top 10 to not go which he will be if he keeps at this pace. He is turning into a KG type of player skillset wise. KG was #1 in his class. JJ Jr. hasn't even been rated in the top 25 by most (any?) recruiting services. Trillest got what I meant. |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 18:51:34 GMT -5
I see Marcus Camby for JJ personally... Don't forget he's only 17 also. Doesn't really matter what his ranking is it's sure to go up and hard to bet against a good kid that works hard with those bloodlines making the League eventually. Think it takes him a couple years to mature into his game though and he really has no reason to rush.. Thats a nice sentiment but no matter if your parents have money or not 6'11 guys who can handle the ball and have a credible outside game don't hang around college for very long especially if they dont project into soley interior players. I feel you but we're not talking about random 6'11 kid we're talking about a kid whose father stayed 4 years in school and played 10 years in the league. I don't think he stays a year past when he's ready but I don't think he will be ready by the end of his freshman year... Big difference between playing AAU summer pick up games and Major D! basketball against mature College players... |
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Post by professorhoya on May 3, 2016 23:24:18 GMT -5
If he truly is 6'11 now it will be real hard for him if he is projected top 10 to not go which he will be if he keeps at this pace. He is turning into a KG type of player skillset wise. The taller he gets the better it is for us. |
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Post by hoyarooter on May 4, 2016 21:31:30 GMT -5
If he truly is 6'11 now it will be real hard for him if he is projected top 10 to not go which he will be if he keeps at this pace. He is turning into a KG type of player skillset wise. The taller he gets the better it is for us. Why, will his being taller make him less likely to choose UMCP? |
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Post by SaxaCD on May 4, 2016 21:46:19 GMT -5
The taller he gets the better it is for us. Why, will his being taller make him less likely to choose UMCP? I assumed he meant that as a "big man" school, the Hoyas would gain an edge. Maybe not, but I can understand the thinking. His dad was one of my favorite Hoyas at the time, so I still have my fingers crossed on the recruitment, and I also hope Jaren returns some day in a coaching capacity. |
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Post by dense on May 4, 2016 22:08:23 GMT -5
The way he plays, no one will make him a strictly back to the basket player. Like YaBoy said he would become a Camby type, but he is a way better ball handler than Camby ever was.
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Post by beenaround on May 4, 2016 22:38:35 GMT -5
Well, if he is Camby- like with a handle, than we are talking Kevin Garnett. Camby without the handle was the NBA defensive player of the year and four times on the All NBA defensive team. A;so won the Naismith Award as college player of the year (yeah..I looked it up). So...if JJJr is at least that good...someone is real lucky to get him.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2016 5:56:15 GMT -5
IMO Probably .1% of players play with the motor and intensity of KG. Not many capable of playing that hard on a nightly basis and that's part of what makes him great. JJ has a decent handle for a kid his size but imo it's straight line drives right now not much wiggle and not against pressure. Point is while talented he still needs time to mature get stronger develop his approach etc.... Talented kid
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Post by dense on May 5, 2016 16:49:11 GMT -5
IMO Probably .1% of players play with the motor and intensity of KG. Not many capable of playing that hard on a nightly basis and that's part of what makes him great. JJ has a decent handle for a kid his size but imo it's straight line drives right now not much wiggle and not against pressure. Point is while talented he still needs time to mature get stronger develop his approach etc.... Talented kid Yeah I dont mean to suggest he has a point guard handle, but he has a handle similar to an Isaac Copeland. Where he can put it down and get somewhere at 6'11 but you dont want him breaking pressure. |
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Post by professorhoya on May 5, 2016 19:32:23 GMT -5
Why, will his being taller make him less likely to choose UMCP? I assumed he meant that as a "big man" school, the Hoyas would gain an edge. Maybe not, but I can understand the thinking. His dad was one of my favorite Hoyas at the time, so I still have my fingers crossed on the recruitment, and I also hope Jaren returns some day in a coaching capacity. Yup. He will have access to the best big man training partners such as Greg Monroe, Henry Sims, Jeff Green, Roy Hibbert, Alonzo/Patrick/Mutombo, Othella Harrington, etc. The taller he gets the more he will have to learn big man skills such as blocking shots, rebounding, positioning, etc regardless of any multi faceted offensive skills. He will still be required to be able to guard 4's and 5's no matter if he plays a 3 on offense. |
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Post by Just Cos on May 6, 2016 3:34:18 GMT -5
Not to detract but where is this Isaac Copeland handle you speak of?
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Post by dense on May 6, 2016 17:02:02 GMT -5
Not to detract but where is this Isaac Copeland handle you speak of? Isaac has a handle most 3/4 hybrids do. He can straight line drive but no wiggle. JJJ is similar but he is 6'11. |
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on May 10, 2016 17:43:39 GMT -5
Jaren Jackson Jr. improvements this spring has been borderline ridiculous. He still has a long way to go in his overall development and has to get a lot stronger but he has the potential to be really really good college player and pro. If he was part of the 18 class (his age appropriate class) he would be easily be a top 2 prospect right behind Marvin Bagley. With all that said, I don't think JJ Jr. is a 1 and done. Depending on where he goes, and because of his background and his father's knowledge about the NBA and the NBDL, I could see JJ Jr. in school through his Junior Year even though he might be able to get drafted in the association earlier then that.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 18:14:59 GMT -5
Shot release still a bit low but has gotten a lot quicker, also looks more confident handling the ball for sure. I could see his career going similar to Otto's.. Steady early, start to take off at the end of his Freshman season, big Soph year, bye bye...
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