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Post by thedragon on Mar 10, 2021 23:36:10 GMT -5
You really think getting Lykes puts the Aminu commitment in question? I don't. Have you been paying attention to Harmon? I don't know what it does but he's making his opinion on it pretty clear. He has made his opinion on Lykes clear. But he's also all in on Gtown and Pat. I dont see that changing even if Lykes comes - which I'm not bullish on anyway.
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Post by prhoya on Mar 10, 2021 23:36:38 GMT -5
You really think getting Lykes puts the Aminu commitment in question? I don't. Have you been paying attention to Harmon? I don't know what it does but he's making his opinion on it pretty clear. Don't forget Chet. ![:-X](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/lipssealed.png)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2021 23:41:04 GMT -5
Have you been paying attention to Harmon? I don't know what it does but he's making his opinion on it pretty clear. He has made his opinion on Lykes clear. But he's also all in on Gtown and Pat. I dont see that changing even if Lykes comes - which I'm not bullish on anyway. I hope the staff isn't look at it like that. He's all in Gtown because he thinks it's the best fit for his kid right now... He could be the biggest fan in the world but this is business.
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Post by thedragon on Mar 10, 2021 23:48:55 GMT -5
He has made his opinion on Lykes clear. But he's also all in on Gtown and Pat. I dont see that changing even if Lykes comes - which I'm not bullish on anyway. I hope the staff isn't look at it like that. He's all in Gtown because he thinks it's the best fit for his kid right now... He could be the biggest fan in the world but this is business. I dont disagree with anything you've said - and maybe I'm downplaying a real risk - but man, if a point guard transfer under a coach who's shown he won't take his players not playing the style and way he wants (see Juggy rn or James prior) would alter the fit they currently envision that much then were walking on some pretty wild eggshells for this kid.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2021 0:34:44 GMT -5
I hope the staff isn't look at it like that. He's all in Gtown because he thinks it's the best fit for his kid right now... He could be the biggest fan in the world but this is business. I dont disagree with anything you've said - and maybe I'm downplaying a real risk - but man, if a point guard transfer under a coach who's shown he won't take his players not playing the style and way he wants (see Juggy rn or James prior) would alter the fit they currently envision that much then were walking on some pretty wild eggshells for this kid. I don't think it's as much of that as it's Lykes is a very different kind of player. His usage is around 28% and he's never averaged more than 3 assists a game at the PG spot. I believe this is a unique situation. If we brought in Jalen Suggs, Cade Cunningham, or any almost any other great college pg I'm sure he would be hyped. If we brought in Cam Thomas, maybe not. I'm reading between the lines but I think that's the difference. He seems to really want Pat Baldwin and Baldwin would be the #1 option if he came here.
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Post by thedragon on Mar 11, 2021 0:42:46 GMT -5
I dont disagree with anything you've said - and maybe I'm downplaying a real risk - but man, if a point guard transfer under a coach who's shown he won't take his players not playing the style and way he wants (see Juggy rn or James prior) would alter the fit they currently envision that much then were walking on some pretty wild eggshells for this kid. I don't think it's as much of that as it's Lykes is a very different kind of player. His usage is around 28% and he's never averaged more than 3 assists a game at the PG spot. I believe this is a unique situation. If we brought in Jalen Suggs, Cade Cunningham, or any almost any other great college pg I'm sure he would be hyped. If we brought in Cam Thomas, maybe not. I'm reading between the lines but I think that's the difference. He seems to really want Pat Baldwin and Baldwin would be the #1 option if he came here. At the end of the day, it's all likely moot. Harmon has a direct line to the staff - if he wants to make it clear that it's a major issue, they will certainly heed that warning I'd suspect.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Mar 11, 2021 4:11:14 GMT -5
Pat’s job is winning. A handler’s job is getting their meal ticket showcased to earn coin. See Akinjo and McClung.
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Post by augustusfinknottle on Mar 11, 2021 8:33:18 GMT -5
How much time would Lykes have left?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2021 8:36:37 GMT -5
How much time would Lykes have left? 1 year.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Mar 11, 2021 9:11:54 GMT -5
Would like to get Lykes IF he is a fit, but not if that messes up Aminu situation. Agree that Baldwin moves the needle waaaay more.
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Post by bostonfan on Mar 11, 2021 9:38:58 GMT -5
You really think getting Lykes puts the Aminu commitment in question? I don't. Have you been paying attention to Harmon? I don't know what it does but he's making his opinion on the matter pretty clear. Ultimately my point is folks keep mentioning Dante but the bigger concern is Aminu and what happens there. I saw Harmon's tweet in this thread and I read it as more of a show of support for Baldwin than a real shot at Lykes. I know everyone always says the scholarship situation will work itself out, but there is a limit as to how many players you can bring in, and at this point the Hoyas are technically over that limit. My guess is Harmon stays in contact with the staff and might have a sense the staff thinks there will be one more spot open for another recruit/transfer for next years team and he just thinks Baldwin would be a better player than Lykes (which is hard to argue). Harmon has always seemed like a positive type of guy so it would be out of character for him to be negative toward any player (Lykes). Baldwin would be great, but adding an experienced point guard to next years team will also help everyone on the team. I guess we will see how it plays out over the next few weeks.
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Post by hoyazeke on Mar 11, 2021 10:02:49 GMT -5
Have you been paying attention to Harmon? I don't know what it does but he's making his opinion on the matter pretty clear. Ultimately my point is folks keep mentioning Dante but the bigger concern is Aminu and what happens there. I saw Harmon's tweet in this thread and I read it as more of a show of support for Baldwin than a real shot at Lykes. I know everyone always says the scholarship situation will work itself out, but there is a limit as to how many players you can bring in, and at this point the Hoyas are technically over that limit. My guess is Harmon stays in contact with the staff and might have a sense the staff thinks there will be one more spot open for another recruit/transfer for next years team and he just thinks Baldwin would be a better player than Lykes (which is hard to argue). Harmon has always seemed like a positive type of guy so it would be out of character for him to be negative toward any player (Lykes). Baldwin would be great, but adding an experienced point guard to next years team will also help everyone on the team. I guess we will see how it plays out over the next few weeks. What most of the board seems to not be recognizing is Dante will be that experienced PG next year. He literally does everything well at this point except for the scoring. If Tyler can provide what Dante is providing now (with better finishing at the rim) and Dante's J improves we will be set at the PG position. Now I'm not as confident that we will have an answer at the 4. Sibley can't get 1min in the 24th game....smh
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2021 10:12:32 GMT -5
Have you been paying attention to Harmon? I don't know what it does but he's making his opinion on the matter pretty clear. Ultimately my point is folks keep mentioning Dante but the bigger concern is Aminu and what happens there. I saw Harmon's tweet in this thread and I read it as more of a show of support for Baldwin than a real shot at Lykes. I know everyone always says the scholarship situation will work itself out, but there is a limit as to how many players you can bring in, and at this point the Hoyas are technically over that limit. My guess is Harmon stays in contact with the staff and might have a sense the staff thinks there will be one more spot open for another recruit/transfer for next years team and he just thinks Baldwin would be a better player than Lykes (which is hard to argue). Harmon has always seemed like a positive type of guy so it would be out of character for him to be negative toward any player (Lykes). Baldwin would be great, but adding an experienced point guard to next years team will also help everyone on the team. I guess we will see how it plays out over the next few weeks. He’s tweeted a couple things but I think you’re reading the situation wrong. Either way I think folks need to be paying more attention to that then what happens with Dante who I think would likely to stick it out. I’ll also add that similar to James and Mac’s situation both guys could benefit from each other if they could make it work but there appears to be legit concerns from one group that would have to be worked out. On a side note I don’t see any reason to believe Baldwin won’t choose to play for his pops next year who’s his trainer. I’ll believe that rumor when/if it happens.
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Post by bostonfan on Mar 11, 2021 10:58:36 GMT -5
I saw Harmon's tweet in this thread and I read it as more of a show of support for Baldwin than a real shot at Lykes. I know everyone always says the scholarship situation will work itself out, but there is a limit as to how many players you can bring in, and at this point the Hoyas are technically over that limit. My guess is Harmon stays in contact with the staff and might have a sense the staff thinks there will be one more spot open for another recruit/transfer for next years team and he just thinks Baldwin would be a better player than Lykes (which is hard to argue). Harmon has always seemed like a positive type of guy so it would be out of character for him to be negative toward any player (Lykes). Baldwin would be great, but adding an experienced point guard to next years team will also help everyone on the team. I guess we will see how it plays out over the next few weeks. He’s tweeted a couple things but I think you’re reading the situation wrong. Either way I think folks need to be paying more attention to that then what happens with Dante who I think would likely to stick it out. I’ll also add that similar to James and Mac’s situation both guys could benefit from each other if they could make it work but there appears to be legit concerns from one group that would have to be worked out. On a side note I don’t see any reason to believe Baldwin won’t choose to play for his pops next year who’s his trainer. I’ll believe that rumor when/if it happens. I could definitely be reading this situation wrong, and maybe there are some legit concerns from the incoming players about how Lykes will impact the roster next year. If Lykes does join the Hoyas for next year I guess we will find out if Coach Ewing has learned his lesson on team building and getting everyone to buy into the same system/program. I think coming from so many years in the NBA, where it is all about accumulating the most talent and then letting the players sort it out, that Ewing probably did not put as much emphasis on how personalities and styles of play would mesh, but after the recent transfers you have to imagine it is given more importance in the program now. With that in mind, you have to imagine that the staff has been pretty clear with Lykes about the role they see for him and what they want, and don't want, from him. I am not concerned at all about how bringing in Lykes impacts Dante. The way Dante has played this season and the effort and energy he brings to the floor, he is going to get minutes next year no matter what. Maybe not as many as he has had to play this year, but he really plays too many minutes for a freshman this year.
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Post by HoyaRejuveNation85 on Mar 11, 2021 15:39:42 GMT -5
It seems like a big part of recruiting these days, for both high school kids and I would think even more so for transfers, is the program telling the recruit what the teams' vision is for them if they commit to the team. You hear all the time kids saying that the staff is telling them how they will fit in the program and how their style of play would be a good match. I think the staff might have gotten away from that to some point in the first few years as they just tried to accumulate as much talent as possible and hope they could make it work together. After the issues with the transfers I have to think the staff makes a point of talking to players about what their role will be on the team and how they see them fitting in with the rest of the roster. If they are doing that with Lykes and he is accepting of the role they want him to play, then it is a good fit, if they are not seeing eye to eye then I am sure both parties will look for a better fit. Yes and agreed! Exactly what I meant. Of course, no one wants a bad chemistry fit.
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Post by bearsandbulls on Mar 11, 2021 15:53:11 GMT -5
I saw Harmon's tweet in this thread and I read it as more of a show of support for Baldwin than a real shot at Lykes. I know everyone always says the scholarship situation will work itself out, but there is a limit as to how many players you can bring in, and at this point the Hoyas are technically over that limit. My guess is Harmon stays in contact with the staff and might have a sense the staff thinks there will be one more spot open for another recruit/transfer for next years team and he just thinks Baldwin would be a better player than Lykes (which is hard to argue). Harmon has always seemed like a positive type of guy so it would be out of character for him to be negative toward any player (Lykes). Baldwin would be great, but adding an experienced point guard to next years team will also help everyone on the team. I guess we will see how it plays out over the next few weeks. What most of the board seems to not be recognizing is Dante will be that experienced PG next year. He literally does everything well at this point except for the scoring. If Tyler can provide what Dante is providing now (with better finishing at the rim) and Dante's J improves we will be set at the PG position. Now I'm not as confident that we will have an answer at the 4. Sibley can't get 1min in the 24th game....smh Yep, everything he has done is as a freshmen. He will be much better next year, and he is such a pleasant surprise this year. Does or can Aminu play the 4? That I do not know. And, of course, we really aren't positive about who will be back.
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Post by dchoya72 on Mar 11, 2021 16:44:13 GMT -5
I would not trade Aminu for Luke's if that is a question. If there is someone else to acquire between Lykes and Baldwin, I would take Baldwin everyday!! I wonder what these conversations do for Georgrtowb's goodwill?
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Post by Problem of Dog on Mar 11, 2021 20:30:13 GMT -5
This talk about deciding between anyone and Baldwin is dumb.
I'd take Margot Robbie over my wife, but I'm not realistically going to have that option.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 11, 2021 21:06:18 GMT -5
This talk about deciding between anyone and Baldwin is dumb. I'd take Margot Robbie over my wife, but I'm not realistically going to have that option. Don't sell yourself short Dog. Margot would be lucky to have you.
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Mar 12, 2021 20:38:36 GMT -5
Do not want.
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