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Post by MDGUfan3 on Mar 30, 2005 18:01:19 GMT -5
I heard on the way home on the radio Sports talk 980am that Patrick Ewing Jr. is considering transferring to Georgetown.
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Post by Joe Hoya on Mar 30, 2005 18:08:09 GMT -5
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 30, 2005 18:13:22 GMT -5
He is transferring.
Rumors include GU and Georgia Tech. Nothing even remotely official on destination.
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Post by RBHoya on Mar 30, 2005 18:16:39 GMT -5
He is transferring. Rumors include GU and Georgia Tech. Nothing even remotely official on destination. Right, I've heard were rumored as a potential destination, but certainly nothings for sure yet.... If he transferred here, he'd have to sit out a year, right? I really dont know enough about his game to say whether he'd be a good addition or not.
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Post by TigerHoya on Mar 30, 2005 18:24:34 GMT -5
Right, I've heard were rumored as a potential destination, but certainly nothings for sure yet.... If he transferred here, he'd have to sit out a year, right? I really dont know enough about his game to say whether he'd be a good addition or not. Transferring from D-I to D-I always results in sitting a year unless there is probation or a major investigation involved (Maryland when Williams considered coming to GU, Baylor more recently and Bama recently in football.) I think there's a similar rule when you jump up a division too since a Duquesne WR transferring up to Clemson to walk on is ineligible this season as well. If your team you're leaving doesn't sign a release you have to sit two years I think.
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Post by SirSaxa on Mar 30, 2005 18:29:27 GMT -5
I heard on the way home on the radio Sports talk 980am that Patrick Ewing Jr. is considering transferring to Georgetown. 1. Does the fact that Sports 980 -- home of JT-Pops -- mean their rumors about destination are more reliable than others? 2. If PE Jr. transfers, he'd have to sit out a year. He would be eligible in Fall, 2006 -- right after Brandon graduates. 3. Regardless of how good he is or how he might fit, if PE Sr. and Jr. want him to be here, then this is where he belongs. As others have stated, there is no way that GU, nor any coach named Thomspon, could possibly turn down Patrick Ewing Junior. Nor would they want to. 4. If he does come here, there is every reason to believe he could be a productive player as a Three under T3's tutelage. 5. The fact that he passed on GU during the previous coaching regime does not diminish him in my eyes in any way. Afterall, most of us were calling for a coaching change. Why should we expect that a player would have committed to GU despite that declining situation? 6. Finally, coming to GU with lesser expectations after having spent a couple of undistinguished years at Indiana should make it much easier for the kid to be Patrick Ewing Jr. the Hoya than if he had come here straigh from HS... especially since the coach is already dealing with the exact parallel situation. Good luck to PE Jr. wherever he ends up! If it is here... then welcome home!
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 30, 2005 18:35:03 GMT -5
If your team you're leaving doesn't sign a release you have to sit two years I think. I think that's only for freshman breaking an LOI or an in-conference transfer.
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Post by TigerHoya on Mar 30, 2005 18:35:04 GMT -5
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Post by TigerHoya on Mar 30, 2005 18:44:04 GMT -5
I think that's only for freshman breaking an LOI or an in-conference transfer. You may be right. I've heard the 2 year thing quoted for transferring within the SEC but Kenny Irons is eligible this year at Auburn after a year (he got a release from SC.) Maybe it's intraconference w/o the release? I know it also came up for a golf transfer from SC to Clemson since both schools don't generally allow transfers to their rival (Spurrier has changed this one and the SEC one recently.)
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Mar 30, 2005 18:44:17 GMT -5
FWIW, if you transfer schools, you do not have to sit out for a year necessarily. There are several exceptions to the rule, but none of which would likely apply to PE2's case.
One exception would be if Indiana discontinued his desired program of study.
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Post by TBird41 on Mar 30, 2005 18:57:47 GMT -5
That would be great for PE jr to come here. I hope he makes the best choice for himself. Does anyone know why he's transfering? Is it playing time, personal reasons, or what?
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Mar 30, 2005 19:02:47 GMT -5
Thanks for keeping us posted on this local news coverage. I don't think it comes as news that he is considering GU. My hope is that he'll sign the dotted line this time around.
IU fans have been talking all day about his potential and upside. He would, no doubt, benefit from the hard work that our coaches put into the program.
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Post by BeantownHoya on Mar 30, 2005 19:11:06 GMT -5
Just a Hypothetical:
But if Ewing Jr. were to come here do you think he would require a scholarship? I don't currently know the exact financial state of the Ewing family but I imagine 2 years of tuition wouldn't break the bank. I mean I would like the addition of him either way, but w/o using a scholly on him would be great. Any thoughts?
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 30, 2005 19:12:02 GMT -5
A quick look at him as a player, at least on offense.
PT and Offensive Aggression
Possessions Played: 40% Possessions Used (Last player to touch ball on possession) as % of Possessions played: 15%
Ewing was a sub, and he made a play on offense about as often as DJ did, over the course of the season. The difference, of course, is that Pat is not deadly from 3.
Shooting
PPS: 1.06 FT/Shots: 20%
Pat's not a great shooter. Most of his shots are putbacks, and that PPS isn't great because he's a sub-60% FT shooter. That's something he'd have to work on in his transfer year; otherwise it'd be hard to have him on the wing and someone like Ray in at the same time.
Rebounding (or why he'd be a big help)
Offensive Rebound %: 12% Defensive Rebound %: 18%
This means that of all 10 players on the court, Pat got 12% of the O boards and 18% of the D boards. That's a LOT of rebounding.
No one on the Hoyas had better numbers than that this year, and while I'd be hard pressed to say he'd be our best rebounder, he'd be up there with Roy and Tyler (Tyler - yes).
Ballhandling
Ast/PossUsed: 20% TO/PossUsed: 31%
The Assist number isn't bad, just don't expect much because he's not much of an offensive playmaker. But the Turnovers are in Ray Reed territoty. You won't notice because he doesn't touch the ball as much, but it is there.
Fouls and other stuff
Fouls/65possessions: 7
That's up there with hacktastic players like Tyler. It's an issue, certainly. He also would get 3 blcks + stls for 40 minutes of play, which would be nice, too.
I like players like Pat. We need that rebounding, and he has a defensive rep, though I'm not sure it is deserved. The question is whether with an extra year of development can he become a contributor on offense other than O boards?
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 30, 2005 19:13:14 GMT -5
I have a gut feeling he will end up elsewhere. I just think that the pressure of being Ewing's son at GU would be more than most mortals could handle. We'll see.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Mar 30, 2005 19:14:01 GMT -5
SF, I knew the HoyaTalk Collector of Non-Mainstream Statistics would come through with a gem. Good work!
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 30, 2005 19:16:45 GMT -5
SF, I knew the HoyaTalk Collector of Non-Mainstream Statistics would come through with a gem. Good work! Thanks. I've down the same for all the GU players, so I'll be posting those when I get the time. Nothing groundbreaking, but there's some interesting stuff there (including a pretty compelling case for Tyler).
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Mar 30, 2005 19:20:36 GMT -5
Thanks. I've down the same for all the GU players, so I'll be posting those when I get the time. Nothing groundbreaking, but there's some interesting stuff there (including a pretty compelling case for Tyler). I haven't posted much on Tyler, but I am a big fan. He gets more layups than anyone on the team and knows the offense as well as anyone, not including coaches. I look forward to your quantitative analysis. You won't find anything of its kind on the 'Cuse boards, let alone on a Duke board, for that matter.
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Post by TBird41 on Mar 30, 2005 19:26:39 GMT -5
I haven't posted much on Tyler, but I am a big fan. He gets more layups than anyone on the team and knows the offense as well as anyone, not including coaches. I look forward to your quantitative analysis. You won't find anything of its kind on the 'Cuse boards, let alone on a Duke board, for that matter. Well, that's kind of obvious. I mean, Cuse fans are scared by numbers and Duke fans are much too busy worshipping the ground Coach K walks on to do an analysis.
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Post by TigerHoya on Mar 30, 2005 19:42:46 GMT -5
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