Joshua Smith Discussion

[AvantGuardHoya]

Jan 26, 2014 15:02:14 GMT -5 skyhoya said:

Jan 26, 2014 13:14:31 GMT -5 DanMcQ said:

The Coach said he was practicing with the team. Why don't you go hang out on Copley Lawn and file a stalker report later.

totally cluelesss

Take it from me, Dan may be clueless, but he's definitely NOT a complete idiot.

[This Just In]

Jan 26, 2014 13:52:50 GMT -5 the_way said:

Jan 25, 2014 16:40:24 GMT -5 skyhoya said:

another recruiting failure. how can Wisconsin, Indiana, Michigan and OSU recruit Bigs that can perform well in the classroom. Just look at the coaches and how they recruit. It would nice to recruit some farm boys from the Midwest

You can throw Michigan St. in there. I like the way Michigan St. and Wisconsin go about their business.

Those two schools have a plan when it comes to recruiting. They play a certain style of basketball and they recruit that way. They have a plan. Or at least they can evaluate a player and project how he will play at the next level for them. And they are successful in doing so more often than not.

That seems to be the missing ingredient at Georgetown. We really haven't had a consistent plan or philosophy. And it is evident in the roster. III wants to run the Princeton, but most of his bigs aren't good fits for it. III wants to play good defense, have glue type guys, but those guys are liabilities on the offensive end.

The Monroe-Wright-Freeman era teams taught III something. Those guys were highly ranked guys coming out of high school. But, relatively speaking, we didn't have much success with them, at least in the NCAA's. We had more success with less heralded guys coming out of high school before them. We lacked the role players to do the little things to help the Monroe-Wright-Freeman teams. So, then III goes out and gets glue type role players (Lubick, Jabril,etc.).

III is still trying to figure this thing out. He can coach in game with the best of them. But coaching/X's and O's is only part of the equation as a head coach. That is why a lot of good assistant coaches fail at the head coaching level in college basketball. You also have to be a good administrator when it comes to your staff and a good general manager when it comes to your roster. This is what his father was a master and excelled at: administration.

Again, we have some new assistant coaches. And moving forward, hopefully III and his staff can figure this thing out.

I remember reading your posts the last couple of years about how u felt JTIII had it figured out and we were bringing in new recruits that would bring perhaps another Final Four run...Now reading this post, there appears to be a change in tone..maybe a little uncertainty.  Is that the case??

[FrazierFanatic]

Don't poke the bear kid.

[joey0403p]

I know board rules. But, seems like everyone knew about whit at some point. Ie that he missed a final and couldn't make it up.
I only recently heard it was a visiting prof. Obviously can't be positive of the facts since I wasn't i. The room.

So nearly everyone knew about whit and the final and the world didn't end. I bring that up to satisfy the mods before I ask this question.

That said. Can we dismiss with the speculation rule for five mins and get the "rumored" story out there on smith?

Caveat it to all hell. Someone said earlier that he wouldn't do what the school asked him to do. Not sure if that was a Blanket statement or something with a little rumor behind it?

I think it's pretty clear he is NCAA eligible but not gu eligible since he is practicing.

Just curious as I'm sure everyone is.

[FLHoya]

Jan 26, 2014 22:04:10 GMT -5 joey0403p said:

I know board rules. But, seems like everyone knew about whit at some point. Ie that he missed a final and couldn't make it up.
I only recently heard it was a visiting prof. Obviously can't be positive of the facts since I wasn't i. The room.

So nearly everyone knew about whit and the final and the world didn't end. I bring that up to satisfy the mods before I ask this question.

That said. Can we dismiss with the speculation rule for five mins and get the "rumored" story out there on smith?

Caveat it to all hell. Someone said earlier that he wouldn't do what the school asked him to do. Not sure if that was a Blanket statement or something with a little rumor behind it?

I think it's pretty clear he is NCAA eligible but not gu eligible since he is practicing.

Just curious as I'm sure everyone is.

I swear to Godwin Owinje if the letters "P" and "M" appear consecutively in the next 20 posts, I'm replacing my account with a spambot that posts gifs of the GU-ND 4 overtime game.

[the_way]

Jan 26, 2014 19:30:56 GMT -5 This Just In said:

Jan 26, 2014 13:52:50 GMT -5 the_way said:

You can throw Michigan St. in there. I like the way Michigan St. and Wisconsin go about their business.

Those two schools have a plan when it comes to recruiting. They play a certain style of basketball and they recruit that way. They have a plan. Or at least they can evaluate a player and project how he will play at the next level for them. And they are successful in doing so more often than not.

That seems to be the missing ingredient at Georgetown. We really haven't had a consistent plan or philosophy. And it is evident in the roster. III wants to run the Princeton, but most of his bigs aren't good fits for it. III wants to play good defense, have glue type guys, but those guys are liabilities on the offensive end.

The Monroe-Wright-Freeman era teams taught III something. Those guys were highly ranked guys coming out of high school. But, relatively speaking, we didn't have much success with them, at least in the NCAA's. We had more success with less heralded guys coming out of high school before them. We lacked the role players to do the little things to help the Monroe-Wright-Freeman teams. So, then III goes out and gets glue type role players (Lubick, Jabril,etc.).

III is still trying to figure this thing out. He can coach in game with the best of them. But coaching/X's and O's is only part of the equation as a head coach. That is why a lot of good assistant coaches fail at the head coaching level in college basketball. You also have to be a good administrator when it comes to your staff and a good general manager when it comes to your roster. This is what his father was a master and excelled at: administration.

Again, we have some new assistant coaches. And moving forward, hopefully III and his staff can figure this thing out.

I remember reading your posts the last couple of years about how u felt JTIII had it figured out and we were bringing in new recruits that would bring perhaps another Final Four run...Now reading this post, there appears to be a change in tone..maybe a little uncertainty.  Is that the case??

I thought things were on the up and up once had Kirby as an assistant. He was part of the solution to the problem. Now that we have Broadus, Othella, the other new assistants, there is hope.

The 2011-2012 was an exciting team. There was hope. That is the type of team III likes. I thought things were on the up and up. Still do with the new assistants now. We have a recruiting class coming into next year that folks have high hopes about. So, there is hope. III can still coach with the best of them. If we can improve upon roster/personnel management, we'll be fine.

[DanMcQ]

Jan 26, 2014 22:04:10 GMT -5 joey0403p said:

I know board rules. But, seems like everyone knew about whit at some point. Ie that he missed a final and couldn't make it up.
I only recently heard it was a visiting prof. Obviously can't be positive of the facts since I wasn't i. The room.

So nearly everyone knew about whit and the final and the world didn't end. I bring that up to satisfy the mods before I ask this question.

That said. Can we dismiss with the speculation rule for five mins and get the "rumored" story out there on smith?

Caveat it to all hell. Someone said earlier that he wouldn't do what the school asked him to do. Not sure if that was a Blanket statement or something with a little rumor behind it?

I think it's pretty clear he is NCAA eligible but not gu eligible since he is practicing.

Just curious as I'm sure everyone is.

MOD NOTE: in short, no. Feel free to PM (I threw that bit in for FLH's spambot) away, but speculation of that sort is not allowed here in board posts, for many reasons discussed ad nauseous before. Such posts are subject to deletion without warning.

[hoyatables]

I thought the AD was completely transparent about the reasons.

#123fireballs!

[strummer8526]

I'll take a speculation PM.

(I wonder if there's any way to do group PMs on HoyaTalk. If we all just PM everyone and then have a "Reply All" conversation, then doesn't the PM just become a sort of message board within a message board? Would it be possible to do a message board within a message board within a message board, and if so, do we need an architect to design each level? Sedatives? A "kick"? Does everyone have his totem?)

[TC]

Jan 27, 2014 11:13:29 GMT -5 strummer8526 said:

I'll take a speculation PM.

(I wonder if there's any way to do group PMs on HoyaTalk. If we all just PM everyone and then have a "Reply All" conversation, then doesn't the PM just become a sort of message board within a message board? Would it be possible to do a message board within a message board within a message board, and if so, do we need an architect to design each level? Sedatives? A "kick"? Does everyone have his totem?)

Do i have to take a red pill instead of a blue pill? I don't like pills.

[bmartin]

From a glance at the Georgetown Student-Athlete handbook grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/gu/genrel/auto_pdf/2011-12/misc_non_event/SAHandbook.pdf, one significant difference between the NCAA and Georgetown appears to be that the NCAA minimum requirement for student athletes is to earn enough hours each year to be on track for a degree in five years, while Georgetown requires student athletes to earn enough hours for a degree in four years. So from the table at the bottom of page 7, it seems that the NCAA minimum would be 24 hours earned by a student athlete after a Spring-Summer-Fall on campus, but Georgetown requires 30 hours from that year.

The NCAA rule says, "To be eligible to represent an institution in intercollegiate athletics competition, a student-athlete shall maintain progress toward a baccalaureate or equivalent degree at that institution as determined by the regulations of that institution (NCAA 14.4.1)." Georgetown has determined that academic progress is measured on a four-year requirement, not five years.

[hoyafan23]

Feel free to PM me for information

[kghoya]

Jan 27, 2014 14:29:46 GMT -5 hoyafan23 said:

Feel free to PM me for information

will the groundhog see his shadow?

[SFHoya99]

I'm waiting for those gifs, FL.

[the_way]

What time does the Nova game come on tonight?

8:00 PM or 9:00 PM?

[DanMcQ]

Jan 27, 2014 14:37:06 GMT -5 SFHoya99 said:

I'm waiting for those gifs, FL.

Patience, we haven't hit 20 yet.

[Boz]

PMPMPMPMPMPMPMPMPMPMPMPMPMPMPMPMPMPMPMPMPMPMPMPMPM

(if you do it really well, it can sound like an moped engine idling)

[joey0403p]

See I was trying to prevent the obligatory PM posts.

Dan - I hear u. Was just asking. Thought it might be possible.

Best part about this - I got a few PMs myself asking for the rumored story on smith ... I have no clue what the rumor out there is. That is why I was asking.

Here is a real question - will he leave? No way he could coax another year of eligibility out of the NCAA right?

Does he "eat" up a scholarship then? Sorry. Couldn't resist.

[wrestlemania]

Jan 26, 2014 22:04:10 GMT -5 joey0403p said:

Someone said earlier that he wouldn't do what the school asked him to do. Not sure if that was a Blanket statement or something with a little rumor behind it?

That was me, and I was only making a general observation about how these things usually go. I don't have any inside information about JS's situation.

[DanMcQ]

Not the only Big East player in this situation: espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/10365383/jalen-reynolds-suspended-xavier-musketeers