prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Jan 4, 2014 11:01:02 GMT -5
I've noticed that when Josh seals his defender and calls for the pass into the post, if the pass is not perfect, he cannot catch it. Basically, what it ends up looking like is a sealed defender on his back, Josh bending at the waist, his feet stuck to the floor and the pass hitting his fingertips to go out of bounds. Josh needs to learn from our big man coaches how to not get stuck there. It is a question of better conditioning, but it's also shifting the stance to be in a more athletic or mobile position. Also, I find it interesting that once he gets the ball, he looks agile going for the baskets with fakes, pumps and movement from one side of the basket to the other.
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jan 4, 2014 12:03:06 GMT -5
No, Hopkins biggest problems are he can't finish consistently and when he does make a shot or two, he begins to force his offense, creating dumb misses and turnovers. This isn't something that is just going to come around -- he throws the ball up there around the rim. Lubick has nice touch around the rim; so does Josh. Hopkins doesn't. I like his D and he's greatly improve his rebounding, but he's a net negative in most games on offense.
He uses possessions at a higher rate than Markel or DSR (or anyone except Josh) and does it at a negative offensive efficiency. That's just unacceptable. Moses is worse on a per possession basis, but at least he only uses 40% of the possessions that Mikael does.
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GIGAFAN99
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Jan 4, 2014 12:33:58 GMT -5
No, Hopkins biggest problems are he can't finish consistently and when he does make a shot or two, he begins to force his offense, creating dumb misses and turnovers. This isn't something that is just going to come around -- he throws the ball up there around the rim. Lubick has nice touch around the rim; so does Josh. Hopkins doesn't. I like his D and he's greatly improve his rebounding, but he's a net negative in most games on offense. He uses possessions at a higher rate than Markel or DSR (or anyone except Josh) and does it at a negative offensive efficiency. That's just unacceptable. Moses is worse on a per possession basis, but at least he only uses 40% of the possessions that Mikael does. Agreed. I do think if Hop just eliminates his one worst decision every game, just that one spinning, driving, heaving, "I got closer so it must have a better chance of going in" shot, he'd be a net positive. He has to get better at finishing off the pass, but that takes time. Not throwing himself into traffic haphazardly is something he can do now (or more accurately, not do) and it would be a huge benefit. |
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swhoya
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Post by swhoya on Jan 4, 2014 12:50:46 GMT -5
No, Hopkins biggest problems are he can't finish consistently and when he does make a shot or two, he begins to force his offense, creating dumb misses and turnovers. This isn't something that is just going to come around -- he throws the ball up there around the rim. Lubick has nice touch around the rim; so does Josh. Hopkins doesn't. I like his D and he's greatly improve his rebounding, but he's a net negative in most games on offense. He uses possessions at a higher rate than Markel or DSR (or anyone except Josh) and does it at a negative offensive efficiency. That's just unacceptable. Moses is worse on a per possession basis, but at least he only uses 40% of the possessions that Mikael does. Agreed. I do think if Hop just eliminates his one worst decision every game, just that one spinning, driving, heaving, "I got closer so it must have a better chance of going in" shot, he'd be a net positive. He has to get better at finishing off the pass, but that takes time. Not throwing himself into traffic haphazardly is something he can do now (or more accurately, not do) and it would be a huge benefit. Um. I come to this thread for the merciless, not at all over the top, bashing of Joshua Smith (otherwise known as the McD AA that's not a D1 player). Can't we stay on topic? |
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rockhoya
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Post by rockhoya on Jan 4, 2014 14:28:33 GMT -5
No, Hopkins biggest problems are he can't finish consistently and when he does make a shot or two, he begins to force his offense, creating dumb misses and turnovers. This isn't something that is just going to come around -- he throws the ball up there around the rim. Lubick has nice touch around the rim; so does Josh. Hopkins doesn't. I like his D and he's greatly improve his rebounding, but he's a net negative in most games Dude everyone forces a shot here and then once they get hot. Every single person on our team is guilty of doing it, some more so than Hop. And stop acting like he just throws the ball up and gets lucky. Finishing tough buckets is not a skill everyone has. I'm 100% sure that when he does this he knows exactly how he needs to put the ball for it to go in. It's called touch. |
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rockhoya
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Post by rockhoya on Jan 4, 2014 14:31:31 GMT -5
No, Hopkins biggest problems are he can't finish consistently and when he does make a shot or two, he begins to force his offense, creating dumb misses and turnovers. This isn't something that is just going to come around -- he throws the ball up there around the rim. Lubick has nice touch around the rim; so does Josh. Hopkins doesn't. I like his D and he's greatly improve his rebounding, but he's a net negative in most games Dude everyone forces a shot here and then once they get hot. Every single person on our team is guilty of doing it, some more so than Hop. And stop acting like he just throws the ball up and gets lucky. Finishing tough buckets is not a skill everyone has. I'm 100% sure that when he does this he knows exactly how he needs to put the ball for it to go in. It's called touch. The problem is he's a finesse 4 with good lower body strength so he's a tweeter in terms of what he thinks he can do offensively. He loses focus and fumbles way too many passes, but to say he's a net negative is ridiculous considering he's our best rebounder right now. |
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jan 4, 2014 14:39:59 GMT -5
No, Hopkins biggest problems are he can't finish consistently and when he does make a shot or two, he begins to force his offense, creating dumb misses and turnovers. This isn't something that is just going to come around -- he throws the ball up there around the rim. Lubick has nice touch around the rim; so does Josh. Hopkins doesn't. I like his D and he's greatly improve his rebounding, but he's a net negative in most games Dude everyone forces a shot here and then once they get hot. Every single person on our team is guilty of doing it, some more so than Hop. And stop acting like he just throws the ball up and gets lucky. Finishing tough buckets is not a skill everyone has. I'm 100% sure that when he does this he knows exactly how he needs to put the ball for it to go in. It's called touch. Aside from Stephen Domingo, he has the worst 2pt FG% on the team. There's a reason for that. I'll stop harping on it when people stop pretending that it's just bad luck when he misses around the rim. And no, not everyone takes dumb shots. Lubick and Moses are not strong offensive players, but they don't feel the need to take more possessions than our good offensive players. Becoming a top defender, tho. (And to clarify, I mean top across basketball. He's obviously the Hoyas' best defender. He just got screwed on a call there.) |
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Post by cheer48 on Jan 5, 2014 18:02:14 GMT -5
Good job Josh....keep on ratcheting up and better and better...man you are simply going to love the feel of taking home the bacon !
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Post by tashoya on Jan 7, 2014 23:03:48 GMT -5
Mikael has been much better net net this year. He has cut down on the poor decisions and the poor passes but, as GIGA said, there's still room for improvement. All in all, the kid has obviously done a lot of work on both his physical and mental game and it's fun to watch him at the 4 where he should be. He looks more comfortable and is expanding his game at the same time as cutting down on some of the boneheaded stuff. He's still not a solid finisher but he's improved in that department simply by cutting down on the number of ill-advised attempts. One of the knocks on him coming in was his motor/interest. To his credit, that has NEVER been an issue. If anything, he tries too hard at times. I love kids like that and I love to see kids like that improve and hone what they do well. He's another Hoya that's really easy to root for. I'm happy for him that his work is paying off on the floor. It's a double-edged sword in terms of his playing time. I don't like seeing him at the 5 but he's now not starting even though he's improved. That said, from what I can see, he's adjusted and accepted his role this year and that is something that he deserves credit for as well. He seems like a team first guy (again, from watching on TV) and, thankfully we seem to have a lot of those type of guys. None more energetic than Tyler. Love that kid's energy. But I think it's contagious. I love rewinding and watching the reactions from the bench to big plays. So many guys are engaged and into it and pulling for their team. So great to see. I think Mikael still has a lot of potential that he hasn't realized yet and I'm hoping he does that while still wearing a Georgetown jersey.
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hoyainspirit
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Post by hoyainspirit on Jan 8, 2014 11:06:37 GMT -5
Offensively, Hopkins still has a long way to go. He's just not that good right now. On the positive side, while he still turns it over too much, he's cut down on his TO rate significantly. He still uses a lot of possessions for someone with a low ORtg, but his ORtg is much improved over last year. From the eye test, he doesn't make nearly as many plays that leave you scratching your head, which is good to see, though he still makes too many. He has improved and continues to do so. I'm not sure he will ever be a good finisher, which limits his upside offensively.
On the boards, he's become a demon. He's gone from someone who rarely got any rebounds last year to nationally ranked on both boards this year. As well, his defense has improved tremendously. IMO, he's progressed quite nicely during his time at GU (credit to Hopkins and the staff), especially considering he was thrust into a role last year for which he clearly was not yet ready, simply because we had no other options.
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jan 8, 2014 11:13:41 GMT -5
Offensively, Hopkins still has a long way to go. He's just not that good right now. On the positive side, while he still turns it over too much, he's cut down on his TO rate significantly. He still uses a lot of possessions for someone with a low ORtg, but his ORtg is much improved over last year. From the eye test, he doesn't make nearly as many plays that leave you scratching your head, which is good to see. He has improved and continues to do so. On the boards, he's become a demon. He's gone from someone who rarely got any rebounds last year to nationally ranked on both boards this year. As well, his defense has improved tremendously. IMO, he's progressed quite nicely during his time at GU (credit to Hopkins and the staff), especially considering he was thrust into a role last year for which he clearly was not yet ready, simply because we had no other options. He's also taking less WTF shots and possessions. He's become just a below average offensive player rather than a giant hole of suck, and that's nice. I still wish he'd take to a support role better. His rebounding numbers are up, and some of that is the discretionary balls and some of that is effort, which is great. It's defense, though, that's he's just become fantastic. He's swatting a ton of shots, playing inside and out, playing the pick and roll well...the only small black spot is the fouls, which are still at 6 per 40 minutes. But I think that'll come down in the BE. I think he's well served by reducing his role and minutes in some way -- he's always been a guy who kind of switched on and off. If he can focus on being on while in in smaller bursts, that makes him a pretty darn good player. |
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hoyaLS05
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Post by hoyaLS05 on Jan 8, 2014 18:26:30 GMT -5
Gene Wang @gene_wang 4m
#Hoyas C Joshua Smith did not make trip to Providence, dealing with academic issue.
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Post by HometownHoya on Jan 8, 2014 18:55:11 GMT -5
Gene Wang @gene_wang 4m #Hoyas C Joshua Smith did not make trip to Providence, dealing with academic issue. Wonderful. |
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kghoya
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Post by kghoya on Jan 8, 2014 19:11:37 GMT -5
I'm not impressed with the academic advisors. One per year isn't a good number.
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HoyaFanNY
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Jan 8, 2014 19:31:20 GMT -5
just when they start to hit their stride offensively.
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hoyas1995
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Post by hoyas1995 on Jan 8, 2014 19:32:46 GMT -5
just when they start to hit their stride offensively. Smith wasnt exactly hitting his stride offensively. |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 8, 2014 19:42:34 GMT -5
I'm not impressed with the academic advisors. One per year isn't a good number. I wouldn't question our advisors. You can't force a kid to show up for class and do his work. |
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Jan 8, 2014 19:47:04 GMT -5
Deja vu, all over again.  |
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Elvado
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Post by Elvado on Jan 8, 2014 20:20:59 GMT -5
And the other size 16 drops...
Nice
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Post by SirSaxa on Jan 8, 2014 20:37:38 GMT -5
I think it was the same time last year - 3rd Big East Game - that we lost Greg W, and he was never seen in a Hoya Uni again.
This is an XXXXXXL disappointment. For everyone. Including Josh and his family.
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