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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Feb 20, 2013 23:24:48 GMT -5
Looks like those were both in the fall of '82, so his sophomore season. I assume Warren Buehler and Jim Barry were both sophomores, eligibility-wise, who later took redshirt seasons when they had 30-point games their first season of varsity basketball. doh
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Post by FLHoya on Feb 21, 2013 0:03:54 GMT -5
I know it sounds ridiculous, but DePaul actually had a pretty good offensive game against us, and we could learn from how they moved the ball to beat our defense down the floor. I could see some teams trying to do that, including Syracuse. Fortunately, DePaul had the worse defense I could remember seeing this year, and that includes Longwood. If Purnell can find a defense coaching asst, they could be a legit team for the new conference. Syracuse for me has always seemed good in transition, though more off turnovers. They usually have at least one player who is deadly from three as a trailer on fast breaks. In halfcourt, two things in the first half stood out that could use work: (1) covering the pick and pop play (DePaul made us pay for hedging hard early in the game, and you'd think at least James Southerland could hit the long range two off similar action); (2) stopping dribble penetration that collapsed the interior defense...felt a lot of the rebounding woes in the first half were due to our interior players having to help at the rim to contest shots after a dribbler got past the first level.
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Post by MCIGuy on Feb 21, 2013 0:12:58 GMT -5
I seem to remember a few 30 point games with Austin, but maybe he was not a frosh at the time. Austin didn't score 30 until his junior season.
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Feb 21, 2013 0:36:02 GMT -5
Just had a chance the view the game. I think we have something special here in this team. These guys are a confident, team-oriented, tough-nosed bunch.
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Post by davishoya on Feb 21, 2013 1:01:11 GMT -5
We scored more points than any other ranked team today. If this is dungeon ball, I wonder what all those other teams are playing...
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Post by hoyaLS05 on Feb 21, 2013 1:20:23 GMT -5
I remember playing Syracuse two years ago, fresh off Chris Wright's broken hand, and lamenting how helpless we were against the press with Markel at the point.
I think it warrants mentioning how much better and more confident he has grown. I don't think anyone has any significant worries anymore about his ability to be the primary ball handler against a press.
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Post by AltoSaxa on Feb 21, 2013 7:17:37 GMT -5
We scored more points than any other ranked team today. If this is dungeon ball, I wonder what all those other teams are playing... Again, the allusion to "dungeon ball" by RDF was made relative to the tendency of JTIII offense to pass the ball around the perimeter endlessly without cutting, dribble drives or kick-outs. This has been a very real criticism of the offense over the past years. The team should be applauded for the way they are playing, however, JTIII's offense over the past seasons has not been this refined. Therefore, the criticism was a fair one. Everyone who quotes "dungeon ball" after a great offensive performance is just as guilty of being disproportionate in their response as those who complain the end of the Georgetown basketball is coming when we lay an egg (our loss to S.Florida remains there only win ... would anyone have posted this after that game?)
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Post by calhoya on Feb 21, 2013 7:28:58 GMT -5
A few random thoughts about last night's game. The development of DSR and Trawick in terms of confidence and the ability to contribute on both ends of the court bodes well for the remaining games and will help both Otto and Starks. Hopkins clearly is athletic and has talent but simply cannot keep putting the ball on the floor--he is not strong and easily stripped by defensive players. For every successful drive in the lane there is a turnover. Bowen is instant energy, running around bouncing and trying hard all the time. There simply is no one on this team who can match his spring and there must be a way to bring his energy into games, even though he still needs to work on his shot. Lubick is so steady and reliable. Porter takes a pounding every game and I am certain any thought of staying beyond this year is gone with the risk of injury that seems there on every drive to the basket. Otto should have 15 FTs a game if they called all the times he is pushed, hacked, hammered. Great to see Domingo in the game for more than a minute but clearly this kid was not ready for this level of play. Hopefully, the year will benefit him more than having stayed in high school in a mediocre league.
Lastly, for someone who is across the country and limited to the poor ESPN stream of many games, it is a disgrace to see the lack of support that this group of kids has received this year from the community, including but not limited to the students. I have seen more support at women's games in New Mexico and UNLV. No excuse for these kids to have lower attendance levels than last year's team. Saturday will be difficult because they will be playing in front of a crowd that equals the attendance at 3+ of our home games.
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Post by bigelephant on Feb 21, 2013 7:50:10 GMT -5
Can't remember when I've seen anyone match the performance by DSR - WOWEE!!!
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Post by hoyabinx on Feb 21, 2013 7:53:40 GMT -5
I had no idea he stopped posting. I completely missed that. Classy exit, for sure.
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Post by calhoya on Feb 21, 2013 7:58:21 GMT -5
We scored more points than any other ranked team today. If this is dungeon ball, I wonder what all those other teams are playing... Again, the allusion to "dungeon ball" by RDF was made relative to the tendency of JTIII offense to pass the ball around the perimeter endlessly without cutting, dribble drives or kick-outs. This has been a very real criticism of the offense over the past years. The team should be applauded for the way they are playing, however, JTIII's offense over the past seasons has not been this refined. Therefore, the criticism was a fair one. Everyone who quotes "dungeon ball" after a great offensive performance is just as guilty of being disproportionate in their response as those who complain the end of the Georgetown basketball is coming when we lay an egg (our loss to S.Florida remains there only win ... would anyone have posted this after that game?) Amen. This needs to end. RDF has left--let him go. He lives on though as many who were apparently frustrated by the strength of his opinions engage in a collective "I told you so." It's a shame that people cannot enjoy the moment and the play of this team. The offense is what it is--some like it, some don't. I prefer to focus on the growth and development of these kids--and the coach-- as they have adjusted to adversity throughout the year. Move on guys.
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Post by johnnysnowplow on Feb 21, 2013 8:55:06 GMT -5
Again, the allusion to "dungeon ball" by RDF was made relative to the tendency of JTIII offense to pass the ball around the perimeter endlessly without cutting, dribble drives or kick-outs. This has been a very real criticism of the offense over the past years. The team should be applauded for the way they are playing, however, JTIII's offense over the past seasons has not been this refined. Therefore, the criticism was a fair one. Everyone who quotes "dungeon ball" after a great offensive performance is just as guilty of being disproportionate in their response as those who complain the end of the Georgetown basketball is coming when we lay an egg (our loss to S.Florida remains there only win ... would anyone have posted this after that game?) Amen. This needs to end. RDF has left--let him go. He lives on though as many who were apparently frustrated by the strength of his opinions engage in a collective "I told you so." It's a shame that people cannot enjoy the moment and the play of this team. The offense is what it is--some like it, some don't. I prefer to focus on the growth and development of these kids--and the coach-- as they have adjusted to adversity throughout the year. Move on guys. Very well said by both posters. It's not enough for some that they drove him away from this board, they need to continue to badmouth him behind his back. It's time to let it go. The offense has improved by leaps and bounds from early in the season when RDF was most vehement in his criticism. Can't we all just be elated with the current state of the team without spitting so much venom?
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Post by EasyEd on Feb 21, 2013 9:02:59 GMT -5
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Post by hoyainspirit on Feb 21, 2013 9:19:22 GMT -5
Personally, I miss RDF, despite the fact that I frequently disagreed with his generally overly opinionated posts. RDF is not the only poster "guilty" of that. The guy knows basketball (unlike a lot of people here), was a wealth of knowledge re: recruiting, and frequently quite entertaining. Many of his rants were epic. I hope he comes back.
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Post by SirSaxa on Feb 21, 2013 9:35:05 GMT -5
It's not enough for some that they drove him away from this board I don't agree with that Mr. Snowplow. RDF left on his own because of his feelings about the program -- as he stated very clearly. RDF is not someone who could be driven away from the board as he relished being challenged and would write epic replies defending his positions. I feel similarly to Hoyainspirit. The upside of RDF was lots of good info and yes, he does know his hoops. The downside was his overly opinionated certainty about everything he posted, even though he was frequently completely wrong - e.g. Kendall Marshall, Jabril and now - as we see - DSR. I won't miss his rants, but we did lose a knowledgeable guy who challenged conventional wisdom and stimulated lots of discussion - some good, some not. Meantime, our team is looking really good. But we have a very tough game at an impossible place on Saturday. Sure would be nice to walk out with a W!
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Post by DanMcQ on Feb 21, 2013 9:38:12 GMT -5
What does RDF have to do with the Georgetown-DePaul game last night? Move on people.
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Post by johnnysnowplow on Feb 21, 2013 9:42:44 GMT -5
It's not enough for some that they drove him away from this board I don't agree with that Mr. Snowplow. RDF left on his own because of his feelings about the program -- as he stated very clearly. RDF is not someone who could be driven away from the board as he relished being challenged and would write epic replies defending his positions. This is true. Probably not the most accurate statement I've ever made, but my sentiment remains the same - RDF has moved on, and I hope those still doing the "I told you so" dance can do the same.
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Post by Cambridge on Feb 21, 2013 9:45:34 GMT -5
Personally, I miss RDF, despite the fact that I frequently disagreed with his generally overly opinionated posts. RDF is not the only poster "guilty" of that. The guy knows basketball (unlike a lot of people here), was a wealth of knowledge re: recruiting, and frequently quite entertaining. Many of his rants were epic. I hope he comes back. I do hope he comes back, but not until after we cut down the nets. I'm just saying, it's like when you go to the bathroom during a baseball game and the team starts to rally. You have a duty, nay an obligation to all the fans to stay in that bathroom and "see" that rally out. Don't come rushing back to your seat and spoil whatever juju is working.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2013 9:48:34 GMT -5
We scored more points than any other ranked team today. If this is dungeon ball, I wonder what all those other teams are playing... Again, the allusion to "dungeon ball" by RDF was made relative to the tendency of JTIII offense to pass the ball around the perimeter endlessly without cutting, dribble drives or kick-outs. This has been a very real criticism of the offense over the past years.The team should be applauded for the way they are playing, however, JTIII's offense over the past seasons has not been this refined. Therefore, the criticism was a fair one. Everyone who quotes "dungeon ball" after a great offensive performance is just as guilty of being disproportionate in their response as those who complain the end of the Georgetown basketball is coming when we lay an egg (our loss to S.Florida remains there only win ... would anyone have posted this after that game?) No it’s not… I’m not in the huddle, I don’t go to practice, but call it an educated guess that 3 has NEVER told his team "pass the ball around the perimeter endlessly without cutting, dribble drives or kick-outs”…. It makes absolutely no sense..
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Post by Z on Feb 21, 2013 9:50:05 GMT -5
I didn't always agree with him but RDF had a lot of though provoking insights about the team and its players and recruits. Will miss reading him here.
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