GOP: Autopsy Time

[TC]

This is going to be hilarious watching GOP Senators try to spike the nomination of a conservative former GOP Senator with no Democratic cover.

[hoyainspirit]

Jan 15, 2013 10:58:09 GMT -5 TC said:

This is going to be hilarious watching GOP Senators try to spike the nomination of a conservative former GOP Senator with no Democratic cover.

Glad Schumer is on board.

[EasyEd]

Jan 15, 2013 10:58:09 GMT -5 TC said:

This is going to be hilarious watching GOP Senators try to spike the nomination of a conservative former GOP Senator with no Democratic cover.

Your calling him a conservative says more about you than him.

[TC]

Jan 15, 2013 14:17:42 GMT -5 EasyEd said:

Your calling him a conservative says more about you than him.

This is why this will be so much fun - if you go back and look at his voting record (0% NARAL, 100% NRC, 0% LCV, A NRA, etc etc) it is solidly conservative and most years he is smack dab in the middle of the Senate Republicans in conservative rankings. Arguments like yours are what are going to make these hearings a Daily Show gold mine.

In the end, the votes are going to be there too, so it'll just be a grandstanding sideshow of hypocrisy.

[This Just In]

Nov 7, 2012 13:25:43 GMT -5 DFW HOYA said:

Nov 7, 2012 13:03:21 GMT -5 TBird41 said:

You can expel the idiots and pick better candidates. It won't matter. This is no longer a center-right country. It's a center-left country, and that's only going to accelerate as people become more dependent on the government due to the lack of jobs.

It is still center-right, but you don't win by being "against" things, but "for" things. In hindsight, 2012 will look a lot like 2004, where the Democrats put up a ticket of a patrician (Kerry) and a slick up-an-comer (Edwards) that failed to make the case to the nation. Kerry is all but forgotten today, which may be Romney's fate as well.

As for Ryan, no GOP VP candidate from a losing ticket has ever been nominated for president four years later; only one has ever been nominated at all (Bob Dole, 1976 VP for Ford, nominee in 1996). However popular he is now, he may be as electorally relevant in 2016 as Sarah Palin was in 2012.

Demographics are not to be ignored. In 1988, George Bush won 62% of the white vote and carried OH, FL, PA, VA, NJ, Co, and even CA. He won 426 electoral votes. In 2012, Mitt Romney won 62% of the white vote and won none of these. This is not what Rush Limbaugh called "traditional America" anymore.

Finally, the blood-letting between the two futures of the GOP is unavoidable but ultimately necessary. Can the Bachmann-Palin-Santorum wing of the house coexist with a fiscally conservative/socially moderate wing (Jeb Bush, Jon Huntsman, Chris Christie) to regain the White House in four years, or are they prepared to coalesce themselves into an ideological purity test that risks losing another generation of younger voters?

Finally: the GOP primary process was a mess. The endless primaries and debate blunders only served to weaken the eventual nominee. It was almost better to have decided it at the covnention, as in the old days.

Well I cannot say the country is center-right or Romney would have won, no matter who the candidate was.

People seem to forget the 800LB Gorilla in the room, George W. Bush/Dick Chaney and the legacy they left...The GOP was basically in shambles after 2008..opening up the door for President Obama to win.

I think the issue is demographics and since Nixon and the "Southern Strategy" adoptation of 1968 the Republicans have primarily ignored minorties. The exception was Reagan giving amnesity to Cuban Refugees..that helped Reagan solidy votes with Cuban Americans. Overall though demographics/minorities have been ignored... now even though Romney won 62% of the white vote the Republican Party must embrace the changing demographics.

With the demographics changing, the country is moving center-left...why were all those long voting lines in the South Florida area for? That is not a conservative location..it is progressive. The Republican controlled states that started changing the voting days and pushed for more voter id laws did nothing but force people who not have voted to turn out to vote. If the GOP wants to be successful in the future I would advise to focus less on restricting voting, but to focus more on why the majority of population should vote for your principles.

Really either party that comes out to address these Free Trade Agreements and push to bring those jobs back to the USA will win votes across various demographics. This is an issue which both parties have choosed to ignore via special interest, eventually as the economy gets worst these Free Trade Agreeements will have to be addressed by 1 party or both.

[SSHoya]

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