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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on May 11, 2013 20:27:38 GMT -5
There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that one academic season can consist of two separate semesters in two different academic years - the NCAA rules state as much. This is really only a question of eligibility.
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Post by hoyaLS05 on May 11, 2013 20:36:09 GMT -5
Nikita graduated and didn't want to continue playing ball maybe? I believe the reason that Nikita only played three years was that he redshirted at GU in 2007-08. Had he not done so, I am fairly certain he would have had another year to play at Wake. |
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Post by hoyaLS05 on May 11, 2013 20:55:03 GMT -5
I can't believe that this is even being debated. It's common knowledge you don't lose any playing eligibility while sitting out. That would make no sense. No one would transfer. You can't not break up a season into 2 separate semesters. These are NCAA student athletes. The student part comes first. That's like saying you spent 3 semesters at Pepperdine, then transferred to Harvard and only had 4 semesters to complete... You don't lose eligibility by sitting out, you lose it by playing. Smith played part of last season, his third in college basketball. He has a season remaining. Show me an example where a player played 3 semesters at one school and then 5 at another. It will require a waiver. You don't get 1.5 seasons here and then 2.5 seasons there. Nikita played 2 seasons at Georgetown, then 2 at Wake. Gordon played 2 seasons at UCLA, then 2 at New Mexico. Where is the disconnect? Josh "The Dagger" Thornton played 2 semesters at Georgetown but stayed on campus for a third and then played 5 at another: 2005-06: Played a full season for the Hoyas, albeit limited minutes. 2006-07: Attended Georgetown for the fall semester but left the team shortly after practices began in October. He finished the semester's classes on the Hilltop -- I know because I continued to see him all the time -- and then moved on to Towson, where he sat out the second semester. See: www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/04/AR2007010401896.html. 2007-08: Sat out the fall semester due to NCAA transfer rules. Played from Dec. 19 on for Towson. See: www.towsontigers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=21300&ATCLID=15121782008-2009: Played a full season at Towson. 2009-2010: Played a full season at Towson. (Don't believe me? admin.xosn.com/fls/21300/stats/mbb/09-10/teamcume.htm?&DB_OEM_ID=21300) |
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Post by kghoya on May 11, 2013 22:18:45 GMT -5
So Thornton played in 4 seasons. Did I read that correctly?
Some here suggest that Smith is due participation in parts of 5 seasons - 3 at UCLA and 2 at Georgetown.
Without a waiver that somehow discounts last season's 6 games, I'm not seeing it.
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Post by EtomicB on May 12, 2013 0:10:30 GMT -5
So Thornton played in 4 seasons. Did I read that correctly? Some here suggest that Smith is due participation in parts of 5 seasons - 3 at UCLA and 2 at Georgetown. Without a waiver that somehow discounts last season's 6 games, I'm not seeing it. The NCAA can only count the games an athlete plays in while he is enrolled at a college/university against them.. If a player leaves after the fall semester is over his athletic clock stops until he enrolls at another school and spends one academic year at that school. Josh played 5 semesters at UCLA so he's entitled to 3 more at G'town. If you want to be technical about it he will play parts of 5 seasons in his career.. 2010-11, 2011-12 & half of 2012-13 @ UCLA. He will play half of 2013-14 and all of 2014-15 for G'town. No waiver will be needed to do this.. |
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Post by hoyaLS05 on May 12, 2013 2:12:28 GMT -5
So Thornton played in 4 seasons. Did I read that correctly? Some here suggest that Smith is due participation in parts of 5 seasons - 3 at UCLA and 2 at Georgetown. Without a waiver that somehow discounts last season's 6 games, I'm not seeing it. KG, how do you explain Fall 2006? |
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Post by lda05816 on May 12, 2013 12:32:12 GMT -5
With 2 now in the fold, I would love to see Booth and Robinson be the next 2 in line to come to the Hilltop. Looney is a pipe dream but a class of Campbell, Copeland, Booth and Robinson would be awesome. Is it me or does this seem like the first time in awhile we've received early committments? This is great as we can now focus on other recruits.
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Post by jsk793 on May 12, 2013 13:22:28 GMT -5
It is the first time in a while we have early commitments. Obviously Reggie is the only 13, but he was last fall. All 2012 were either late or semi late committs. 2011 I think all committed during their senior year. It really is the first time in a while we have had commits before they're senior year starts
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Post by prhoya on May 12, 2013 15:07:01 GMT -5
It is the first time in a while we have early commitments. Obviously Reggie is the only 13, but he was last fall. All 2012 were either late or semi late committs. 2011 I think all committed during their senior year. It really is the first time in a while we have had commits before they're senior year starts Except Bolden. |
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Post by bmartin on May 12, 2013 15:27:32 GMT -5
There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that one academic season can consist of two separate semesters in two different academic years - the NCAA rules state as much. This is really only a question of eligibility. You have to sit a full academic year at your new school. That has always been the transfer rule unless you get the family hardship waiver like Julian Vaughn. |
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2013 15:32:31 GMT -5
I fixed the thread title for you guys..Have at it
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2013 15:45:28 GMT -5
I am not an expert in these things, but it hard to understand why Josh Smith would have transferred to Georgetown in mid year if he was going to have to sit out a year and a half. If he can only play for a year, why not finish out the year and transfer, sit out for a year and then play for a year?? It seems more likely that he can play second semester next year because if he can't, it made no sense to transfer in mid-year.
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Post by GUMBA on May 12, 2013 15:52:45 GMT -5
Doesn't Spring semester 2013 and Fall semester 2014 equal one year? He should be able to play in December once exams have ended and go for a year and a half - 3 semesters as a Hoya. He has been learning the offense this year and will be more than ready once he is called on. Is there really a debate here?
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Post by hoopsmccan on May 12, 2013 17:18:35 GMT -5
Guys , give me a break. The rules are clear - he played in the 2012-13 season, so he is out for the 2013-14 season, but will be eligible for the BET and NCAAs.
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Post by lda05816 on May 12, 2013 17:30:20 GMT -5
Transfers have to sit out 1 academic year. Here is the excerpt from www.NCAA.org "An academic year is any two consecutive semesters or three consecutive quarters. It does not need to run fall-spring." Josh will be eligible to play once the first semester is over. |
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Post by EtomicB on May 12, 2013 17:30:35 GMT -5
Guys , give me a break. The rules are clear - he played in the 2012-13 season, so he is out for the 2013-14 season, but will be eligible for the BET and NCAAs. hm Last Wednesday, junior center Josh Smith announced he will join Georgetown for his last season and a half of eligibility. Lamb played only one game this season, so it will be interesting to see if he and Long Beach State try to get that year back. If Lamb cannot, he will have a year and a half of eligibility remaining and can play for the 49ers as early as the second semester of the 2013-2014 season (late December). |
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Post by lda05816 on May 12, 2013 17:31:07 GMT -5
Transfers have to sit out 1 academic year. Here is the excerpt from www.NCAA.org "An academic year is any two consecutive semesters or three consecutive quarters. It does not need to run fall-spring." Josh will be eligible to play once the first semester is over. Here is the link for those interested. www.ncaa.org/blog/2012/01/transfer-101/2 |
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Post by stafford72 on May 12, 2013 17:59:12 GMT -5
Guys: Have you heard the expression "beating a dead horse?" Sometimes I think this forum is for West BumF--- Community College instead of Georgetown. Time to kill this thread.
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Post by rockhoya on May 12, 2013 20:02:23 GMT -5
This is the dumbest dispute hoyatalk has ever had......one person confusing a commonly known rule.
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Post by bmartin on May 12, 2013 22:54:22 GMT -5
Transfers have to sit out 1 academic year. Here is the excerpt from www.NCAA.org "An academic year is any two consecutive semesters or three consecutive quarters. It does not need to run fall-spring." Josh will be eligible to play once the first semester is over. That is all I was saying. I was refuting the nonsense about asking for a waiver of the games he played at UCLA. The rule is a year in residence at the new school. I did not realize some people would not understand that a year in residence at the new school was covered by spring then fall. |
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