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Post by jgalt on Aug 25, 2012 10:13:45 GMT -5
I'm curious as to what evidence you have that innings are a good surrogate? Also, if they are a good surrogate, why is skipping a start, or extending his rest time through a six man rotation not a good way to extend how far his innings go, especially considering the Nats have a 6.5 game lead and can afford to take some measures to save Strasburg for the playoffs. Also, extended runs of divisional dominance are nice, but flags fly forever. I doubt there's a White Sox fan that would trade 2005 for all the division titles the Twins won the past decade. (also, best laid plans--see Anaheim and Detroit) This is one White Sox fan who wouldn't trade 2005 for 10 other titles from any other team or combination of teams. And if I recall correctly, the last time a Washington baseball team won a World Series was what, 86 years ago? And Walter Johnson was still pitching for them? I'm betting there are some people who would give their right arms so their dads or granddads could see a Washington baseball title while still around to enjoy it. I too would rather have a championship than 5-10 seasons of playoffs. The Caps have decided to go for the 5-10 seasons of playoffs at the expense of a championship. They refused for the past 4 years to sell the farm and go for a Cup and where has it gotten them? A team that is going to make the playoffs, but only because they are in a crap devision, and has little depth behind the first line, and huge holes through out the line up. There is uncertainty on both sides of this decision: it is uncertain that Strasburg will be damaged for pitching more innings, it is uncertain that pitching fewer innings this year will keep him healthy, and it is uncertain that the Nats will be good in the future. There is certainty that if they keep him in the line up they are a better team even if he is skipping starts. Also, bmartin, I think the bigger problem is not him skipping starts now. Its that they knew they were going to do this the whole season, so why not put him on a 6-day schedule from the start? Wouldnt that mitigate many of the problems you are talking about?
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Post by bmartin on Aug 25, 2012 13:20:13 GMT -5
Shutting down Strasburg is not conceding this season. Even without Strasburg, the Nats staff is as good as anyone else.
Nats are 19-6 in Gio's starts and 16-9 in Jordan Zimmermann's. Edwin Jackson won an elimination game for St. Louis in last year's NLDS. Detwiler has a 3.25 ERA. The bullpen is solid.
The bigger question for the playoffs is how well the hitters will hit.
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Post by hoyainspirit on Aug 26, 2012 16:37:40 GMT -5
Shutting down Strasburg is not conceding this season. Even without Strasburg, the Nats staff is as good as anyone else. Nats are 19-6 in Gio's starts and 16-9 in Jordan Zimmermann's. Edwin Jackson won an elimination game for St. Louis in last year's NLDS. Detwiler has a 3.25 ERA. The bullpen is solid. The bigger question for the playoffs is how well the hitters will hit. +1
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Post by hoyainspirit on Sept 6, 2012 8:47:55 GMT -5
Bryce Harper becoming an elite center fielderQUOTE:With the caveat that even the best defensive metrics are limited, Harper ranks fourth in the majors among center fielders according to one of the leading advanced stats. According to FanGraphs.com’s Ultimate Zone Rating, Harper has saved 28.5 runs per 150 games this year in center field alone. No National Leaguers rank ahead of him, and only Peter Bourjos, Lorenzo Cain and Craig Gentry score better in the majors.
The stat, commonly known at UZR, attempts to formulate a defender’s value through range, arm strength and errors. It is imperfect, to be sure, but no one believes the rating would be skewed to rank a poor or even average defender at the top of the league. For the the Nationals’ front office, the numbers bear out what they see – Harper is above-average with a chance to be elite.Just as I hoped (but would have never bet).
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Post by EasyEd on Sept 8, 2012 12:21:07 GMT -5
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Sept 18, 2012 8:48:45 GMT -5
Free plug for MLB.tv: it's $9.99 for the rest of the season if you're trying to follow the AL pennant races.
Speaking of pennant races...big win for the White Sox yesterday over Detroit, though I'm betting Chicago gets swept by Kansas City in classic pale hose fashion.
Also, I can't believe Texas isn't running away with the AL West. Oakland is only 3 games back.
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Post by hoyarooter on Sept 18, 2012 12:20:31 GMT -5
Free plug for MLB.tv: it's $9.99 for the rest of the season if you're trying to follow the AL pennant races. Speaking of pennant races...big win for the White Sox yesterday over Detroit, though I'm betting Chicago gets swept by Kansas City in classic pale hose fashion. Also, I can't believe Texas isn't running away with the AL West. Oakland is only 3 games back. Jinx, jinx! Can't happen, can't happen. La la la la la la, I can't hear you. Given that the Sox are 2-7 in their last nine games against the Royals, I'd say the Sox owe them big time.
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Post by kchoya on Sept 20, 2012 9:22:16 GMT -5
Free plug for MLB.tv: it's $9.99 for the rest of the season if you're trying to follow the AL pennant races. Speaking of pennant races...big win for the White Sox yesterday over Detroit, though I'm betting Chicago gets swept by Kansas City in classic pale hose fashion. Also, I can't believe Texas isn't running away with the AL West. Oakland is only 3 games back. Jinx, jinx! Can't happen, can't happen. La la la la la la, I can't hear you. Given that the Sox are 2-7 in their last nine games against the Royals, I'd say the Sox owe them big time. Bruce Chen outpitching Chris Sale? Bruce Chen outpitching Chris Sale! ;D
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Post by hoyarooter on Sept 20, 2012 17:02:29 GMT -5
Jinx, jinx! Can't happen, can't happen. La la la la la la, I can't hear you. Given that the Sox are 2-7 in their last nine games against the Royals, I'd say the Sox owe them big time. Bruce Chen outpitching Chris Sale? Bruce Chen outpitching Chris Sale! ;D I think Bruce Chen has beaten the White Sox five times over the past two seasons. I haven't checked this, but I wouldn't be surprised if his ERA against the Sox over that period is well under 2. If Bruce Chen only faced the White Sox, he would be duking it out with Justin Verlander for Cy Young awards. Against everybody else? Well, that's a different story (although I do recall that he pitched great against the Tigers the last time he faced them, so I hope he'll be repeating that once or twice over the next two weeks).
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Post by AustinHoya03 on Sept 20, 2012 22:16:24 GMT -5
Tonight's loss was even more frustrating than last night's. At least the A's took care of the Tigers.
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Post by hoyainspirit on Sept 21, 2012 7:08:48 GMT -5
And the Nats clinch the first playoff berth in Washington since 1933. Love me some Nats.
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Post by BubbleVisionBiff on Sept 21, 2012 7:15:01 GMT -5
And the Nats clinch the first playoff berth in Washington since 1933. Love me some Nats. Storen looked like he was gonna fly out of his shoes on every pitch in the 9th, he was so amped. Hit 96-97 consistently. If he is fully back to form, that bullpen is just silly.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Sept 21, 2012 8:39:37 GMT -5
So as the regular season winds to a close who do you think wins each division and who gets the wild card spots. I think my O's will win the AL East.
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Post by hoyainspirit on Sept 21, 2012 9:12:07 GMT -5
So as the regular season winds to a close who do you think wins each division and who gets the wild card spots. I think my O's will win the AL East. All the current division leaders, except Detroit over Chicago. O's/Yanks too close to call. AL wildcard appears to be set. Don't think anyone catches St. Louis for the 2nd wild card in the NL.
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Post by jgalt on Sept 21, 2012 14:23:02 GMT -5
Was at the game last night. Really surprised how many people left early. Yeah they were up 4-1, but why not stay and see them finish it? Hoping there is never a home play off game up against Skins game. Cant imagine what the attendance will be like.
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Post by DanMcQ on Oct 4, 2012 14:30:41 GMT -5
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Post by SirSaxa on Oct 4, 2012 16:32:43 GMT -5
Cabrera wins first Triple Crown since Yaz in '67! espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/8458298/detroit-tigers-miguel-cabrera-wins-first-triple-crown-1967This is a very big deal. There have been only 12 Triple Crown seasons in MLB history. Back in the day, it happened relatively often. Mickey Mantle in '56, Frank Robinson '66, and Yaz in '67. Mantle and Robbie's teams won the WS those years. Yaz's team lost in 7 games to Bob Gibson and the Cardinals. At least he did better than his LF predecessor -- the Splendid Splinter, Ted Williams, AKA -- greatest hitter in baseball history. Teddy won TWO Triple Crowns: '42 & '47. But both times the Yanks went on to the WS while the Sawx went home. Cabrera, however, is the first to win in 45 years! This was not a "sneak in" triple either. Cabrera's numbers, .330, 44, 139, compare favorably with the other 12 Triple Crowns in MLB history. - His .330 BA ranks only 10th among the 12 TC winners-- Hornsby was the high man at .403. - MC's 44 HRs would tie for 5th, behind Mantle's high of 52 - RBI's 139, tied for 6th. Gehrig leads that stat with 165 Including the NL, Cabrera still would have won HRs and RBIs, though Buster Posey finished with a slightly higher BA of .336. Congratulations to Miguel for a remarkable baseball feat.
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Post by hoyarooter on Oct 4, 2012 22:08:43 GMT -5
I agree that this is a remarkable feat, but according to an article I saw somewhere today, using WAR analysis, Cabrera is the least impressive TC winner. Not trying to denigrate his accomplishment, just throwing it out there for discussion.
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Post by hoyainspirit on Oct 5, 2012 7:39:14 GMT -5
I've seen a few of those articles, too. I love WAR as a stat, but, to me, it is irrelevant in the discussion. The triple crown is a hitting feat, using three of the most important counting stats. It has nothing to do with the other components of WAR. The fact that no one has been able to pull it off in 45 yrs should display just how difficult it is. It should be celebrated for the feat that it is, not polluted with discussions of WAR. If MC doesn't win MVP, it won't be the first time that has happened to the TC winner. Congrats to Miguel Cabrera.
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Post by hoyarooter on Oct 5, 2012 11:07:49 GMT -5
I've seen a few of those articles, too. I love WAR as a stat, but, to me, it is irrelevant in the discussion. The triple crown is a hitting feat, using three of the most important counting stats. It has nothing to do with the other components of WAR. The fact that no one has been able to pull it off in 45 yrs should display just how difficult it is. It should be celebrated for the feat that it is, not polluted with discussions of WAR. If MC doesn't win MVP, it won't be the first time that has happened to the TC winner. Congrats to Miguel Cabrera. I love Trout. He had one of the greatest rookie seasons of all time, maybe the best ever (and I know Fred Lynn was MVP as a rookie). But Cabrera has to be MVP. Didn't Ted Williams win the TC and lose MVP because (i) a Boston writer didn't like him and left him off his ballot, and (ii) Joe D had his 56 game hitting streak? I don't see anything quite like that getting in Cabrera's way.
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