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Post by kchoya on Jun 27, 2012 16:17:00 GMT -5
So now on the disgusting umpiring tour, we've got outs recorded that don't exist--how do you not ask to see the ball from an OF that goes into the stands? The ball that Dwayne Wise "caught" was coming out of his glove as he fell into the stands--but it's a catch/3rd out with 2 risp and something the use of replay could correct in 3 seconds. Add to that-Wise is living good life in this Indians-Yankees series as he was thrown out by 3 feet and called safe at 3rd the night before. Fully understand human error and you see that more with balls/strikes but the plays being missed and fact the umpire ejected Jack Hannahan for pointing out he missed the call and didn't curse at him is just getting tiresome. Accountability is a good thing and unfortunately it's not seen with MLB umpires. Bob Davidson respectfully disagrees with your reference to the "disgusting umpiring tour."
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Jul 4, 2012 14:59:00 GMT -5
I just realized that the biggest oxymoron in baseball is Angel Pagan.
BTW, what is the feeling about Bryce Harper being chosen for the All-Star game voted by the fans. Surely, there are many more deserving according to their stats and Harper has that one 0-7 game with 5 Ks. Do the fans want to see him? Is that enough to be named?
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Post by jgalt on Jul 4, 2012 20:00:13 GMT -5
I just realized that the biggest oxymoron in baseball is Angel Pagan. BTW, what is the feeling about Bryce Harper being chosen for the All-Star game voted by the fans. Surely, there are many more deserving according to their stats and Harper has that one 0-7 game with 5 Ks. Do the fans want to see him? Is that enough to be named? This is the problem with having the game actually matter, I think. In the NHL and NBA the all star game is about fun, excitement, and showing off. There may be others who have better stats than Harper, but he is surely one of the most exciting and fun to watch players in the game. I think it would be great to see him in an all star format, having fun and being relaxed (home run derby too). I follow the Nats pretty closely and know about their main competition pretty well, but dont follow the rest of the league, so I dont want to say he is more "deserving" of anyone else. But I sure want to see him out there crushing balls and making catches in center.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Jul 6, 2012 19:23:22 GMT -5
Harper didn't make it, so the fans have spoken (or at least some of them).
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Post by TBird41 on Jul 6, 2012 20:16:28 GMT -5
Harper didn't make it, so the fans have spoken (or at least some of them). Lots of time left for withdrawals and replacements. I'd be a little shocked if Harper didn't end up on the roster, to be honest
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Post by jgalt on Jul 7, 2012 22:17:38 GMT -5
Harper didn't make it, so the fans have spoken (or at least some of them). Lots of time left for withdrawals and replacements. I'd be a little shocked if Harper didn't end up on the roster, to be honest And thats just what happened. Stanton now out and so Harper replaces him (Ian Desmond is also not playing).
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Post by TBird41 on Jul 7, 2012 22:50:54 GMT -5
Lots of time left for withdrawals and replacements. I'd be a little shocked if Harper didn't end up on the roster, to be honest And thats just what happened. Stanton now out and so Harper replaces him (Ian Desmond is also not playing). Too bad he didn't replace him in the HR Derby too. Replacing Stanton (legit Derby power) with McCutchen (yet to top 25 HR in a season) is stupid. I want to see Harper and his "hits it out of Tropicana" power instead
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Post by Elvado on Jul 8, 2012 21:30:24 GMT -5
As we pause to reflect on the first half, can anythimg be more rewardimg than seeing the Pirates playong great while the Phillies suck. The natural order of baseball is being restored with the Pholloes returning to their rightful place at the bottom. 129 seasons, two titles and their mouthbreathing fans act like they invented baseball. Now they can return to being both stupid and losers
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Post by jgalt on Jul 9, 2012 11:38:18 GMT -5
My morals prevent me from being happy for anything related to the city of pittsburgh, but the phillies sucking is the greatest part of this season (even better than my Nats being in first place.)
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Post by kchoya on Jul 9, 2012 21:04:44 GMT -5
I think it's now spelled Can0
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Post by hoopsmccan on Jul 10, 2012 8:54:30 GMT -5
I think it's now spelled Can0 And in similar news, Dustin Luis Pedroia is just going to go by DL Pedroia from now on. hm
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Post by thebin on Jul 10, 2012 12:22:21 GMT -5
I can almost hear it now....that musical barrage of treacle-like sentimentality that makes me feel stupid for checking into the All-Star Game for even 5 minutes. The not-so-deft hand with which baseball and Fox team up to assault the viewer with the notion that baseball isn't serious sport, it is a national patriotic duty to endure geared towards the 7 year-old in all of us. Cue the military vets, huge flag, crap pop music acts, shots of boys and girls on the field in huge jerseys with coverage presented this year by....Don Julio Tequila. (Seriously) It is all enough to make me sick.
It is an event I used to enjoy but Fox has really made it as tacky as the Country Music Awards ever were. And if you pay even 10 second a year caring about the home-run derby: you better be 7 years-old. I wonder if Fox knows how much long term damage they continue to do to the game by treating as a game for boys rather than men.
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Post by Boz on Jul 10, 2012 12:54:51 GMT -5
I turned on the Derby for a few seconds last night, saw the cameras focusing mostly on Adam Jones scarfing down ribs, heard the announcers talking about God-knows-what, but it wasn't anything going on on the field, and promptly changed the channel before someone woke up the ever-expanding Chris Berman so he could scream out "Back, back, back, back..." ad nauseum.
What'd I miss?
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jul 10, 2012 13:09:32 GMT -5
Don't know who posted it on Twitter, but the best line last night was the writer who suggested that Home Run Derby would be a lot more entertaining if ESPN dropped the increasingly insufferable Chris Berman for Will Farrell doing his Harry Caray impression. ("Haaay!")
Berman is the elephant in the room (no pun intended) at the Worldwide Leader. One of the last of the original SportsCenter hosts (along with Bob Ley, now semi-retired), Berman once said he'd retire and move to Hawaii at 50, but it didn't happen--he's not going anywhere. If he wants an assignment like Home Run Derby, he gets it. Period.
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Post by hoyainspirit on Jul 10, 2012 13:24:41 GMT -5
I tried, but I just couldn't watch.
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Post by Boz on Jul 10, 2012 13:46:24 GMT -5
And before anyone says "this is what these kinds of all-star events are like", take some time to watch the NHL skills competition one year.
I realize I am biased toward hockey, but that is a genuinely entertaining competition, unlike the Derby or the Slam Dunk Contest.
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Post by thebin on Jul 10, 2012 15:24:03 GMT -5
I think all all-star games are a bit stupid by nature. But I can live with them as exhibition events if pulled off well: if they are entertaining and I don't just mean to small children and grandfathers. The MLB version used to have the most cache. It really was rare seeing AL vs NL back then and the nature of the sport leant itself to all star selections in a way that other sports don't because they are too team-orientated. But all of that cache has been drowned in sentimental schlock that makes the skin crawl. I just wish as a country we could get over ourselves a little bit and be a bit more grown-up about our sports. It is refreshing to see how little nonsense accompanies big time soccer matches overseas once you get past the kids walking the teams out on the field. (Surely Fox will adopt that soon) Never do I feel this dread more than when I hear the soaring and repulsive Fox All-star music cue Carver and Buck for historical lectures, corporate advertisements and self-serving platitudes for a solid 70-80 minutes. Then the game starts and it really gets boring. It is like the antithesis of the NCAA tournament. It is 99% style to 1% substance. And the style portion is quite moldy by now.
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Post by kchoya on Jul 10, 2012 16:11:43 GMT -5
I can almost hear it now....that musical barrage of treacle-like sentimentality that makes me feel stupid for checking into the All-Star Game for even 5 minutes. The not-so-deft hand with which baseball and Fox team up to assault the viewer with the notion that baseball isn't serious sport, it is a national patriotic duty to endure geared towards the 7 year-old in all of us. Cue the military vets, huge flag, crap pop music acts, shots of boys and girls on the field in huge jerseys with coverage presented this year by....Don Julio Tequila. (Seriously) It is all enough to make me sick. It is an event I used to enjoy but Fox has really made it as tacky as the Country Music Awards ever were. And if you pay even 10 second a year caring about the home-run derby: you better be 7 years-old. I wonder if Fox knows how much long term damage they continue to do to the game by treating as a game for boys rather than men. You don't have to watch, you know. It's just a baseball game.
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Post by hoyarooter on Jul 10, 2012 19:24:03 GMT -5
I love Home Run Derby. Why, just the other day I watched Harmon Killebrew take it to Frank Robinson. ;D
Those were the days, my friend, we thought they'd never end.
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Post by jgalt on Jul 11, 2012 11:05:02 GMT -5
And before anyone says "this is what these kinds of all-star events are like", take some time to watch the NHL skills competition one year. I realize I am biased toward hockey, but that is a genuinely entertaining competition, unlike the Derby or the Slam Dunk Contest. You know im with you on this one Boz. Its just not that fun to watch someone hit a home run in the Derby's format. In a game its awesome because its unexpected and has an effect on the out come. In the Derby, your just waiting for them hit one off a crappy pitch. And they talk about these guys "crushing in batting practice" well then shouldnt they take like 75% of the pitches yard then? Also there are way too many guys. Just take 6 of the best (three from each league) and have them do two rounds. Best total wins. Simple and quick. Hockey works because there are multiple events. Some more skillful like the speed comp or hardest shot. And some just for fun like the best trick comp. The whole thing has this air of "hey lets let these guys have fun and do whatever they want for a few hours".
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