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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on May 5, 2011 12:09:31 GMT -5
If the Celtics can't win then i'm hoping for an Mavs/Hawks Final.
Don't want the thunder to win now the jeff is gone(don't want people to be able to say the trade killed boston/helped the thunder) and Obviously don't want the heat. Don't like Kobe either. Don't like the Grizzlies either but they'd be better than most of the other choices. Boston's the only team I can actively root for that's left.
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Post by kchoya on May 5, 2011 12:10:31 GMT -5
Barea is turning out to be a game changer for the Mavs. No Laker can guard him... and I'm not counting Dirty Artest's punch-slap to the face. The best part about that stupid play is, if you watch the replay, Artest runs into Odom as well, and Odom is holding his hand/wrist afterwards. |
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Post by prhoya on May 5, 2011 12:25:09 GMT -5
I would say "Artest runs through Odom"  |
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Post by hoyarooter on May 5, 2011 12:56:27 GMT -5
Barea is turning out to be a game changer for the Mavs. No Laker can guard him... and I'm not counting Dirty Artest's punch-slap to the face. The best part about that stupid play is, if you watch the replay, Artest runs into Odom as well, and Odom is holding his hand/wrist afterwards. So there is something "good" about Crazy Ron perhaps inadvertently hurting a teammate? By the way, Crazy Ron won the NBA's good citizenship award this year for his work relating to mental illness. Way to go, Crazy Ron! That was uuuuuuuugly. Lakers' biggest problem all year is that they can't guard quick guards, so it's no great surprise that Barea is driving them crazy. But I would put that no higher than fourth on my list of what's hurting the Lakers. 1. Gasol is having an awful playoffs. No idea why this is occurring, but he's only had one (maybe two) good game out of eight. Slumps happen, and this is bad timing. 2. Dirk has been phenomenal. Weirdly, the shots he has missed have uniformly been easier than the shots he has made. I've been left shaking my head nearly a dozen times over the two games. It's not bad defense at all. Dirk has made some really, really tough shots. Props to him. 3. The Lakers missed at least 24 consecutive three point shots over the two games. I know they were 0-6 in the fourth quarter of game one, and they missed their first 18 in game two. That has absolutely killed them. I remember in 2001 when they swept through the playoffs losing only the one game to AI, they were unconscious from 3 throughout the playoffs. This is the opposite. Merde happens. Shortly after the Lakers made the Pau trade, I posted on this board that I didn't expect the Lakers to win that year, but that I anticipated they would win two or three titles over the following five years. Two are already in the bank, but it's hard to win every year (unless you are the Russell Celtics, which was a totally different era, or the Jordan/Pippen Bulls, who made a truly phenomenal run). Even the Showtime Lakers lost twice to the Rockets in the playoffs, and those Laker teams were way better than this team. So while I'm certainly surprised to see the Lakers down 0-2, I'm not shocked. We'll see what happens in Dallas. |
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Post by nychoya3 on May 5, 2011 14:15:38 GMT -5
All Dirk does is make impossible shots. I am not aware of a defensive adjustment that lets you stop a seven footer who shoots 18 foot fade aways from behind his head that scrape the top of the scoreboard they arc so high. Just ridiculous. Of all the crazy athletes in the NBA, I think I enjoy watching Dirk and his 3 inch vertical leap most of all.
Getting dissected by Barea is scary. He's not a bad player by any means, but he shouldn't be doing whatever he wants against your guards. The dynamic duo of Derrick Fisher and Steve Blake is done. They need a point guard who can play defense more than anything else.
I have no idea what Gasol's problem is, but he has just been terrible.
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Post by KirbyKeger on May 5, 2011 14:18:48 GMT -5
Steve Blake is absolutely horrible. There was one possession last night when I had just started watching the game, and I remarked "Steve Blake is so bad". Right on cue, he threw 2 wild passes in nobody's direction in particular, and missed 2 threes in a row. Go Terps...
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Post by SFHoya99 on May 5, 2011 14:27:31 GMT -5
Tom Tolbert was on local sports radio yesterday talking about how the Warriors hampered Dirk when they upset the Mavs in round 1 a few years ago.
According to Tom, Nellie knew Dirk's most comfortable offense was to drive around the elbow, stop, reverse and do that awkward sort of step back jumper off the wrong foot. (He also has some nice moves in the low post, but this was the play they were trying to confound the most).
So they had a smaller, quicker Stephen Jackson guard Dirk to cut off the drive as soon as possible. They didn't worry too much about the height, because Dirk didn't like to go straight up. As soon as he started to make his move, they'd double late to the other side and Dirk would basically spin into a defender. This helped get a defender right up on him in that shot.
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Post by hoyarooter on May 5, 2011 19:42:57 GMT -5
This is purely anecdotal, but I don't think that Dirk has had much success over the years against the Lakers. It seems to me that he has had a number of 7-19 type games against them, so either they've been really lucky, or they were doing something right. Whatever it was, it ain't working now.
The funny thing about Blake is that I thought he would be a great fit for the Lakers. He has always been a good shooter and a heady player, so I thought he would be the perfect guy to play 20-25 minutes a game and reduce the load on Fisher (way better than Jordan Farmar). He actually started out that way, for maybe the first 15 games this year. Since then, he has been absolutely awful. I've been waiting for the good Blake to return, figuring he can't continue to be that bad, but the good Blake must be playing in Europe somewhere, and the Lakers have been left with an imposter.
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Post by kchoya on May 5, 2011 20:35:48 GMT -5
The best part about that stupid play is, if you watch the replay, Artest runs into Odom as well, and Odom is holding his hand/wrist afterwards. So there is something "good" about Crazy Ron perhaps inadvertently hurting a teammate? By the way, Crazy Ron won the NBA's good citizenship award this year for his work relating to mental illness. Way to go, Crazy Ron! 1. Not good, just amusing. 2. I don't think Odom is injured. Heck, he probably has bigger bruises from his wife rolling over on him in the middle of the night. |
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Post by kchoya on May 5, 2011 20:36:55 GMT -5
This is purely anecdotal, but I don't think that Dirk has had much success over the years against the Lakers. It seems to me that he has had a number of 7-19 type games against them, so either they've been really lucky, or they were doing something right. Whatever it was, it ain't working now. The funny thing about Blake is that I thought he would be a great fit for the Lakers. He has always been a good shooter and a heady player, so I thought he would be the perfect guy to play 20-25 minutes a game and reduce the load on Fisher (way better than Jordan Farmar). He actually started out that way, for maybe the first 15 games this year. Since then, he has been absolutely awful. I've been waiting for the good Blake to return, figuring he can't continue to be that bad, but the good Blake must be playing in Europe somewhere, and the Lakers have been left with an imposter. Jeff Bridges approves of bad Blake. |
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Post by KirbyKeger on May 5, 2011 21:01:25 GMT -5
I have a feeling we're going to be seeing a lot of Kobe's "mean face" in game 3. No way he lets the Lakers go down 3-0. He is wayyy too much of a competitor.
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Post by hoyarooter on May 6, 2011 16:25:33 GMT -5
So there is something "good" about Crazy Ron perhaps inadvertently hurting a teammate? By the way, Crazy Ron won the NBA's good citizenship award this year for his work relating to mental illness. Way to go, Crazy Ron! 1. Not good, just amusing. 2. I don't think Odom is injured. Heck, he probably has bigger bruises from his wife rolling over on him in the middle of the night. Yes, I think that's probably true. Chyna is one tough hombre. |
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Post by hoyainspirit on May 7, 2011 9:42:28 GMT -5
Jeff Green adjusting to many different roles in BostonQUOTE“Everybody wants to win a championship and for me to be in the position I’m in, I have a great chance, with the guys who have been here and already won one, they know what it takes,” Green said. “I’m just riding with them and trying to do the best I can to help them get to that situation. It’s been fun, I’m enjoying the ride.”
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Post by HometownHoya on May 7, 2011 11:25:53 GMT -5
Time for you to step up and make an impact on the game rather then just "enjoying the ride".
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Post by KirbyKeger on May 7, 2011 13:12:03 GMT -5
Time for you to step up and make an impact on the game rather then just "enjoying the ride". As a Celtics fan, I totally agree. He needs to cut it out with the "riding along" and "enjoying the ride" crap. Jeff is immensely talented and athletic. We brought him in to come off the bench for Pierce and be an aggressive scoring force, not to cower in fear of the veterans all season long. He never looks to score, ever. We need him to bring energy whenever he's on the floor, particularly on offense. He showed serious flashes with Pierce out in Game 2, scoring at will in the first half....and I don't know if he took another shot after that. That could be the team's fault or maybe Doc's, but it needs to be corrected. If Jeff is on the floor, I do not want to see Big Baby (who is absolutely terrible by the way) launching 18 foot jumpers or falling towards the basket and chucking the ball at the bottom of the rim. That led to a 13-0 Heat run to essentially end the game. Jeff is a great scorer, and I just want to see him be more assertive. If he is, he could be a defining factor for the Celtics moving forward. |
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Post by DanMcQ on May 7, 2011 21:28:35 GMT -5
Don't look now... but Jeff Green finally looks comfortable as a Celtic.
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Post by KirbyKeger on May 7, 2011 22:31:01 GMT -5
Loved what I saw from Jeff tonight. It wasn't a huge night statwise, but he looked like a great teammate. He rushed to Rondo's aid to help him off the court. The best though was when he got tangled with Bosh and then stood over Bosh when he fell. You could tell he wants to win this series baaaaaddddd. Love the passion.
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Post by RDF on May 7, 2011 22:34:21 GMT -5
Loved what I saw from Jeff tonight. It wasn't a huge night statwise, but he looked like a great teammate. He rushed to Rondo's aid to help him off the court. The best though was when he got tangled with Bosh and then stood over Bosh when he fell. You could tell he wants to win this series baaaaaddddd. Love the passion. Thought Jeff played tough defense on Lebron and looked less hesitant on the court--he was one of the few guys who played well in Game 2 in a spurt--that was an awful game overall for any Celtic. Wouldn't put much into standing over Bosh--I think Emmanuel Lewis and Hee Pee Ping (RIP) could stand over Bosh and scare him. |
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Post by LizziebethHoya on May 8, 2011 9:19:33 GMT -5
sports.espn.go.com/boston/nba/columns/story?columnist=macmullan_jackie&id=6504551"Resident whipping boy Jeff Green also provided the kind of gritty defense that skeptical Celtics fans have been waiting on since he arrived in a deal for the popular Kendrick Perkins. Consider the possession with 1:24 left in the third quarter. At the time, Boston had a 12-point lead and the ball was in LeBron's hands. As he sized up his options from the right baseline, Green forced him deeper in the corner and Pierce snuck up from behind and forced James (four turnovers) to cough up the ball. That defensive energy translated into stellar offensive opportunities. With 8½ minutes left in the game, Green tipped a Heat pass away, and the ball bounced free. Bosh moved to retrieve it, but he hesitated for just a moment, which was long enough for Rondo to swoop in, pickpocket the weakest link of the Heat's Big Three, then wave goodbye as he gently stuffed it home on the other end."
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