damnhoya
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Post by damnhoya on Dec 22, 2010 23:11:34 GMT -5
Greg up to #7 in the latest rookie rankings: insider.espn.go.com/nba/insider/columns/story?columnist=thorpe_david&page=Rookies-101222"Dec. 22: Simply put, Monroe is finishing shots that he was missing in November, making over 56 percent of his field goals this month after hitting just 35.4 percent last month. The game is slowing down for him and he's using his size and length more effectively. Next up? Block more shots. He hasn't had more than two blocks in a game thus far (and he's had only two blocks twice)." |
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DudeSlade
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Post by DudeSlade on Dec 23, 2010 12:37:49 GMT -5
Considering Greg was never touted as a block artist, though he ranks surprisingly high on the Hoyas all-time list for only 2 seasons played with us, I don't find that part to be too surprising. In fact, I would take it as a positive that Greg consistently gets one or two blocks. Great to see him get his FG% up and not surprising at all. The number I expect to go up for him with more playing time and getting accustomed to his teammates are his assists. He had 3 last night, I think, which I would expect to be standard for him going forward.
The number that's not discussed, though, is how good his rebounding numbers have been, considering that was viewed as a weakpoint for him compared to Cousins, Favors and others. He's averaging 5.2 in 19 minutes. With starters minutes its not unreasonable to think he'd be averaging double digits. I thought he would get there, but I didn't expect he'd show that straight off -- though to be honest, I thought his offense would be clicking better early in the season instead. Keep up the good work Greg!
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DudeSlade
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Post by DudeSlade on Dec 23, 2010 12:44:08 GMT -5
Greg up to #7 in the latest rookie rankings: insider.espn.go.com/nba/insider/columns/story?columnist=thorpe_david&page=Rookies-101222"Dec. 22: Simply put, Monroe is finishing shots that he was missing in November, making over 56 percent of his field goals this month after hitting just 35.4 percent last month. The game is slowing down for him and he's using his size and length more effectively. Next up? Block more shots. He hasn't had more than two blocks in a game thus far (and he's had only two blocks twice)." I don't have access to Insider. Could someone who does just let us know who the 6 listed ahead of Greg are? Just curious, not asking for too much insider info since I know there's a reason you pay for it. My guesses would be: 1) Blake Griffin -- hands down, easiest pick ever. He's so electrifying it's ridiculous. People here in L.A. are actually choosing to go to Clippers games occasionally now -- mind you, for discounted Goldstar and Groupon tickets, but I've never ever ever heard anyone in my life ask before if you wanted to go to a Clippers game...amazing what one player can do (though Eric Gordon should get lots of credit too). 2) John Wall 3) Demarcus Cousins? 4) Landry Fields? 5) Wesley Johnson? (he's seeing normal minutes with the TWolves now, so maybe) 6) Evan Turner? Derrick Favors? Ekpe Udoh (just kidding, great pick again, Warriors, enjoy the lottery for the next 20 years) |
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Dec 23, 2010 13:42:40 GMT -5
Cousins has been awful and he's causing problems within the team. Landry Fields should be ahead of him. It's been a year for more of the unheralded guys so far.
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KennaHoya
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Post by KennaHoya on Dec 23, 2010 13:48:01 GMT -5
Above G. Monroe would be Griffen, Landry Fields, Cousins, Favors, and two Garys: Neal (Spurs) and Forbes (Nuggets).
But it is opinion, and changes week to week.
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biggmanu
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Post by biggmanu on Dec 23, 2010 13:51:08 GMT -5
1. Blake Griffin
2. Landry Fields
3. DeMarcus Cousins
4. Derrick Favors
5. Gary Neal
6. Gary Forbes
7. Greg Monroe
8. John Wall
9. Tiago Splitter
10. Wes Johnson
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Dec 23, 2010 14:09:33 GMT -5
Cousins has been kicked out of practice, fined multiple times and for some odd reason kept signally the choke signal at the Warriors the other night as HE was about to choke away the game.
All for a guy who is shooting 42%? I get he has some of the talent -- though not all the hype everyone wants to give him as he's not exactly athletic for an NBA PF. He's rebounding well, so that's nice, but eh, is it really worth all the trouble His supporters before the draft talked him up like Blake Griffin.
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DudeSlade
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Post by DudeSlade on Dec 23, 2010 15:26:22 GMT -5
1. Blake Griffin 2. Landry Fields 3. DeMarcus Cousins 4. Derrick Favors 5. Gary Neal 6. Gary Forbes 7. Greg Monroe 8. John Wall 9. Tiago Splitter 10. Wes Johnson Thanks to biggmanu and KennaHoya for posting the list! I'm a bit surprised by Wall being at 8. I know he's been injured a lot, but when he's in there, I would say it's pretty obvious he belongs in the top 2 or 3 this year. I am also surprised that Wes Johnson is below Splitter. Splitter has hardly played for the Spurs and Johnson is starting for the Twolves and at least doing respectably. I must admit also, that while I've heard of Gary Neal -- primarily for that air high five he gave during a technical foul shot -- I have not even heard of Gary Forbes. Wow, what a bad year for the guys that were expected to be top tier...at least so far. |
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Post by dchoyafan on Dec 29, 2010 2:23:15 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on Jan 2, 2011 15:52:56 GMT -5
O'Brien is simply doing what some here would have the coaching staff do to some of the Hoya starters.  |
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EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Jan 2, 2011 19:42:09 GMT -5
O'Brien is simply doing what some here would have the coaching staff do to some of the Hoya starters. lol. |
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Post by rustyshackleford on Jan 2, 2011 19:47:26 GMT -5
O'Brien is a bad coach but Roy has been struggling tremendously lately. His monthly splits for December show a FG% of about 41%!!
I'd be disappointed over that number from a 6'3 chucker sg, never mind a 7'2 center.
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superan
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Post by superan on Jan 5, 2011 13:37:46 GMT -5
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bmartin
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Post by bmartin on Jan 5, 2011 18:38:31 GMT -5
Pistons were blown out by Lakers but Monroe got to play 30 minutes and put up a double double with 14 points, 11 rebounds.
Summers scored 4 in 7 minutes.
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hoyaboy1
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Jan 5, 2011 18:41:29 GMT -5
Jeff is falling apart lately, same as Roy. I highly doubt he's back in OKC next year.
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bmartin
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Post by bmartin on Jan 6, 2011 11:41:39 GMT -5
From recap of Pistons-Lakers game: www.mlive.com/pistons/index.ssf/2011/01/three-pointers_as_expected_the.htmlFor what it's worth, Monroe was the Pistons' top performer It's hard to find bright spots in a 25-point loss, but Greg Monroe's performance deserves a little recognition. The rookie power forward came off the bench against the Lakers, but logged a team-high 30 minutes in the loss. Monroe finished with 14 points and 11 rebounds, the first double-double of his career. He made smart cuts to the basket all night, something not lost on Tracy McGrady and Richard Hamilton, who combined to assist on four of Monroe's six baskets. Monroe's success wasn't limited to his offensive efficiency. While he wasn't spectacular, he was definitely the Pistons best post defender against the Lakers' star-studded frontcourt. For the most part, he stayed in front of his defensive responsibility, challenged shots and stayed out of foul trouble. He also added two steals, something that has become a regular part of his game. |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 6, 2011 12:26:27 GMT -5
Greg a defensive stalwart? We knew he had it in him!
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DudeSlade
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Post by DudeSlade on Jan 6, 2011 12:47:03 GMT -5
I was watching some of the 4th quarter and one of the things that struck me was how well Greg was positioning himself for rebounds defensively and how well he was establishing position in the post on the offensive side. I know he was playing against the Lakers back-ups at that point, but some of the time he was up against Joe Smith and Lamar Odom, who both have a lot of basketball in them. I just appreciated how he has seemed to use his intelligence to better understand how to position himself -- an underrated aspect of a big man's game, when so many just look at athleticism.
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superan
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Post by superan on Jan 6, 2011 12:51:42 GMT -5
I still wish Greg dropped to Utah at #9. Would have been such a great opportunity for him pairing up with D. Williams.
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nychoya3
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Post by nychoya3 on Jan 6, 2011 14:55:20 GMT -5
Greg's athleticism is underrated. He's pretty agile out there for a big guy. No, he isn't going to dunk on people, but there's more to being athletic than jumping high.
Greg would fit in nicely on the Jazz, but he'd probably have a longer way to go to start some games with Jefferson and Milsap manning the 4/5 positions. I expect Greg will have the opportunity to start for the Pistons pretty soon, given that they're going no where fast.
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