China Game 2: ends as Hoyas pulled off floor

[DanMcQ]

Tied @ 40 4 minutes into the 3rd quarter.

twitter.com/#!/HoyasinChina/status/104144335691460608

Halftime show: yfrog.com/hsta4llzj

[glidehoyas (Inactive)]

@gene_wang Washington Post

Bedlam at Hoyas game vs Baiyi. Benches cleared. JTIII pulls team off court in 4th quarter. Fans hurled bottles at team. comehome!

[LizziebethHoya]

Aug 18, 2011 6:48:02 GMT -5 glidehoyas (Inactive) said:

Bedlam at Hoyas game vs Baiyi. Benches cleared. JTIII pulls team off court in 4th quarter. Fans hurled bottles at team. #comehome!

Ummmm what happened?

[zxhoya]

What?!!!! Was Jabril involved by any chance?

[HoyaSinceBirth]

“A tough ending to the night. Coach ended the game early after aggression got too aggressive in the 4th quarter. It’s been quite the 24 hrs.” - hoyasinchina

haven't been able to get more than this.

No clue what happened first benches clearing or bottles thrown or what caused either.

[zxhoya]

This is not good but can't speculate without any info. Wow.

The Hoyas (Beast of the East) are back! Lol

[bronxhoya87]

Yes the attitude is changing. Love it!

[HoyaPride]

Supposed to play them next game too!

[DanMcQ]

twitter.com/#!/HoyasinChina/status/104152815018061825

Oh man! Tied up at 62 with 11 minutes to play!

twitter.com/#!/gene_wang/status/104156650386096129

Bedlam at Hoyas game vs Baiyi. Benches cleared. JTIII pulls team off court in 4th quarter. Fans hurled bottles at team.

[RBHoya]

International incident! Sounds like it'll be an interesting story for the fans but I suspect some folks will be pretty unhappy about this considering it's supposed to be a goodwill, basketball diplomacy type of trip.

Interested to see how much of the real story we get. Twitter, Facebook and Youtube are banned in China, though you can access them through a VPN. Seems like most of the folks there providing detail about the trip/games are there as official Georgetown representatives, and in that case I wouldn't be surprised if everyone "paranoias up" and gives us some redacted version of what really went down. Obviously you're not getting anything accurate from the Chinese side. I wonder if any of the other Georgetown fans/alumni that attended will give us the real deal.

[BubbleVisionBiff]

Aug 18, 2011 7:35:27 GMT -5 RBHoya said:

International incident! Sounds like it'll be an interesting story for the fans but I suspect some folks will be pretty unhappy about this considering it's supposed to be a goodwill, basketball diplomacy type of trip.

Interested to see how much of the real story we get. Twitter, Facebook and Youtube are banned in China, though you can access them through a VPN. Seems like most of the folks there providing detail about the trip/games are there as official Georgetown representatives, and in that case I wouldn't be surprised if everyone "paranoias up" and gives us some redacted version of what really went down. Obviously you're not getting anything accurate from the Chinese side. I wonder if any of the other Georgetown fans/alumni that attended will give us the real deal.

The front page of ESPN NCAABB has something about China. Oh wait, it's for the ESPN Men's national team.

[zxhoya]

Aug 18, 2011 7:35:27 GMT -5 RBHoya said:

International incident! Sounds like it'll be an interesting story for the fans but I suspect some folks will be pretty unhappy about this considering it's supposed to be a goodwill, basketball diplomacy type of trip.

Interested to see how much of the real story we get. Twitter, Facebook and Youtube are banned in China, though you can access them through a VPN. Seems like most of the folks there providing detail about the trip/games are there as official Georgetown representatives, and in that case I wouldn't be surprised if everyone "paranoias up" and gives us some redacted version of what really went down. Obviously you're not getting anything accurate from the Chinese side. I wonder if any of the other Georgetown fans/alumni that attended will give us the real deal.

Gene Wang of the Washington Post is there so I'm sure we will get the whole truth one way or another.

[RBHoya]

BTW, what's up with throwing bottles Chinese fans?

"THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE... AN EXHIBITION!!!"

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Beijing fans apparently doing their best Syracuse impression.

[BubbleVisionBiff]

So Nike flew Teddy Valentine and Karl Hess all the way to China?

[HoyaSinceBirth]

The Event just got mentioned on ESPNU during the Duke game.

[BubbleVisionBiff]

@gene_wang Gene Wang
Chairs were being thrown. Players and coaches had to dodge water bottles hurled from stands.

[PhillyHoya]

From Gene Wang - he's writing for the Post right now:
Gotta write now folks. Stay tuned for more on this incident. #HoyasinChina
1 minute ago

started happening when both benches emptied. Sims had a chair thrown at him. #HoyasinChina
2 minutes ago

All GU players and coaches okay. Still sorting it all out. #HoyasinChina

[DanMcQ]

Post reporter Gene Wang on site:

twitter.com/#!/gene_wang/status/104179926466441218

@benstandig started happening when both benches emptied. Sims had a chair thrown at him.

Tarik El-Bashir:

twitter.com/#!/TarikElBashir/status/104180395439964160

Just talked to Gene. It got crazy over there. RT @gene_wang: Gotta write now folks. Stay tuned for more on this incident.

[TrueHoyaBlue]

A partisan account from a Hoya supporter who wishes to remain anonymous:

So, tonight's game...we started out behind and were having trouble moving the ball around. The PLA team's big men actually matched up with us pretty well and they played solid defense early on. We were quickly in foul trouble and they moved to the line pretty often, although it wasn't that notable at the time. Then in the second quarter we made a nice run, started hitting open shots, and played really nice defense and forced some turnovers- truly fun to watch and gives us some hope for the regular season. I believe we were down 5 at the end of the first, and then we built a 6-point lead.

Then things got really lopsided on the officiating front in the second quarter. They were in the bonus (five fouls) in the first two minutes of the quarter. The fouls continued- I think we had about 12-14 in the second quarter alone, if I had to guess without seeing a stat sheet (which I doubt will be published). On a couple of plays there was a bit of shoving under the basket, but it calmed down fairly quickly, JT3 clearly called the team over and probably said something along the lines that the officiating was ridiculous, but it didn't matter and everyone needed to stay cool. Then JT3 became more active in pushing the refs for some calls on our end (we were getting mauled, and the PLA team was getting a call basically every time down the court). Despite all of this, we finished the half up 4 or 5- we were shooting really well.

The whole thing came undone in the third. About two minutes in, the ridiculously lopsided foul calls continued (we were in the bonus again 2 1/2 minutes in) and the first real shoving match kicked off over a loose ball. The players on the court separated each other pretty quickly, but then the craziest thing I've ever seen happened- one of the Bayi big men got in JT3's face and almost took a swing. He was so shocked he didn't know what to do. So that upped the ante a bit.

Then the foul calls truly took on a comical dimension. We supposedly fouled them every time down the court, despite some really good defense on some possessions. There were four or five intentional fouls called, giving them four shots each time down the court. JT3 was called for a technical for stepping over the line onto the court. I counted Bayi scoring two field goals in the entire third quarter. I don't know what the count was, but I would not be surprised if they shot 45-50 FTs through three quarters, and we shot 6-10. I honestly think the foul count was likely in the range of 30 or 35 to 5-7. A few exchanges got testy and at one point players had to restrain themselves again. I started joking with some Chinese people in the crowd, who to their credit similarly thought it was a bit ridiculous but were mainly upset that the game had no flow. At the end of the third, despite all of this, we were tied or up two points or so.

Two minutes into the fourth, they were pressing full court, trapped one of our guards (I forget who it was), and then must have pushed or punched him on the ground after he made the outlet pass, because then there was a shoving match and then a bit of a fight, and then the whole thing set off. He tried to get away as quickly as possible as the Chinese players sort of converged on him, and then benches cleared, and then people on the Chinese bench started picking up chairs. Everyone on the other side of the court started fighting as well. Brawl spread all over the court, and then off the court. After it kicked off it immediately became possible for the crowd to get involved, and then they did. As we tried to get the team off the court, bottles (plastic ones, thankfully) came out of the crowd at the team and everyone left. Security was there (sort of), but it was more equivalent to mall cop-quality security rather than actual security. The Georgetown staff wanted the security to get on the floor, but honestly these guys didn't have a clue what to do. They escorted the whole alumni contingent out fairly quickly after that. Game over, 64-64 (following another intentional foul).

I don't know how much news this will make, but even given my admittedly partisan view of how this played out, this was really not our fault. The refs completely failed to control the game, and these things happen when they can continue to maul us underneath with no consequences. The coaching staff called the whole team over at several times during the game and calmed everyone down. We didn't throw any punches and players and coaches were generally just laughing at the absurdity of the officiating at times. Anyway, not exactly what I was expecting to see tonight...

[Boz]

Holy Schnikes!