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Post by the_way on May 6, 2011 14:41:51 GMT -5
It wasn't just Patsos. It was also Billy Haun and guys like Dave Dickerson. I doubt they would give Patsos the job. If you re-read my post, you'll see I give props to Dickerson. As for Ha*H*n, he was Associate Head Coach by that time, & Patsos/Dickerson did most of the legwork on the recruiting trail. We all know why Hahn is out of the picture, and he actually fits in well as Huggy Bear's assistant. As for being so down on Patsos, I REPEAT, I'm not saying he's a lead candidate, but his successful history in the program & VERY strong local recruiting ties should at least put him under consideration. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but Patsos has a much better reputation locally than many observers think. Patsos is really irrelevant to the conversation. He is not exactly a strong candidate for head coaching jobs at major programs for a reason. Once Dickerson left, Maryland's recruiting dried up.
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Just Cos
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Post by Just Cos on May 6, 2011 14:45:35 GMT -5
I heard Gary retired because the sorority girls got uglier at UMCP.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on May 6, 2011 14:49:45 GMT -5
I heard Gary retired because the sorority girls got uglier at UMCP. Is that possible??!
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Post by Oh My! on May 6, 2011 14:55:43 GMT -5
Somewhere in College Park, a dry cleaner's is preparing to file bankruptcy. & RJ Bentley's might be out of business within a year!
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Post by kchoya on May 6, 2011 15:56:45 GMT -5
It wasn't just Patsos. It was also Billy Haun and guys like Dave Dickerson. I doubt they would give Patsos the job. If you re-read my post, you'll see I give props to Dickerson. As for Ha*H*n, he was Associate Head Coach by that time, & Patsos/Dickerson did most of the legwork on the recruiting trail. We all know why Hahn is out of the picture, and he actually fits in well as Huggy Bear's assistant. As for being so down on Patsos, I REPEAT, I'm not saying he's a lead candidate, but his successful history in the program & VERY strong local recruiting ties should at least put him under consideration. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but Patsos has a much better reputation locally than many observers think. We hear you. No one is saying you're saying Patsos is the lead candidate. We get it. Jeez. Lead candidate or not, reputation or not, if the guy can't even have a modicum of success at a low-level D1 school, why should he move up to the ACC, or even the A10.
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Post by chep3 on May 6, 2011 16:05:43 GMT -5
Rumor out west is Miller will take the job. We'll see. Maryland is a very good job (as much as Gtown fans want to deny it). Also, the whole area is a hotbed of talent for recruiting. I just don't see it. Arizona is pretty much the 2nd best program in the West, behind UCLA. They have a ton of history and a national recruiting profile. They're coming off an Elite 8 appearance, and look to be on the upswing with Miller. They have a big time recruiting class coming in this year. All of that adds up to Miller using this as leverage to get a nice little raise in my opinion. Basically, what Painter did with Mizzou.
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Post by KirbyKeger on May 6, 2011 16:09:12 GMT -5
I'm with the people that don't think Maryland is superior enough for Miller to leave Arizona. He just went to the Elite 8. Its a basketball school. Everything's going great for him there. As mentioned, he has recruits coming in. Maryland may be a good job. Thats fair, but seriously, their roster is awful. If you're taking that job, you're committing to 2-3 seasons of mediocrity. If I'm Miller, I have a much better chance to succeed short term at Arizona, and a roughly equal chance long term. Why throw yourself into such turmoil when you've created such a great situation for yourself already?
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Post by KirbyKeger on May 6, 2011 16:13:51 GMT -5
Also, nobody has mentioned that Sean Miller reportedly donated $250,000 of his own money for new facilities at UA. Does that sound like someone thats in a hurry to leave?
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Post by chep3 on May 6, 2011 17:27:52 GMT -5
Take Indiana for example. Really can't find too many better programs than that. But it was down when Sampson left (granted the threat of enforcement penalties may be worse than a young/untalented roster), and they were only able to get Crean, who while a good coach at that time, had not done a whole lot outside of DWade. Sean Miller is a better coach than Crean was at that time, and IU is a better job than UMCP.
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Post by bicentennial on May 6, 2011 18:00:37 GMT -5
I didn't see anything up above but only read last two pages, any chance Nick Faust's recruitment could reopen and with our guard shortage would that be worthwhile?
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Post by hoyaclap on May 6, 2011 18:07:17 GMT -5
What is all this talk that Arizona is a lesser job than Maryland? Who cares about the level of talent in Arizona and Mew Mexico? Their pipeline is SoCal, and they probably recruit better there than any school not named UCLA.
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Post by KirbyKeger on May 6, 2011 18:24:43 GMT -5
I didn't see anything up above but only read last two pages, any chance Nick Faust's recruitment could reopen and with our guard shortage would that be worthwhile? According to the Recruit Scoop, Sterling Gibbs said both he and Faust would reopen their recruitments. Apparently though, this has been denied as a rumor. The consensus now seems to be that theyre still considering asking out of their LOIs
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Post by KirbyKeger on May 6, 2011 21:34:49 GMT -5
Update at least on Gibbs, who is waiting to see who gets hired: "It should be really interesting. I'm gonna wait to see what happens." My guess is that if they can bring in one of the big names, these guys will probably stay put. If the hiring is lackluster, it could be open season. Even if we have no interest in pursuing Faust or Gibbs, we should really hope that they both decommit and make the new coach start with a truly barren roster.
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Post by SSHoya on May 6, 2011 22:45:15 GMT -5
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Post by RDF on May 7, 2011 0:25:52 GMT -5
Will Pops ever let III be the voice of the program and how they feel about things? If you want to step down/aside--then do so. If not--shouldn't have stepped down. It's a GAME--and people would be entertained by it--and would be a great start to year for teams/fans prior to the conference play. It would sell out and bring excitement (oh wait--now I know why Pops is against it--would be fun for fans/players and everyone who enjoys competition).
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Post by DanMcQ on May 7, 2011 8:18:47 GMT -5
Meh, I have no problem with Pops' comments.
They boil down to this: "you don't negotiate things like this in the newspaper, and it seems to me that the new Maryland AD is trying to use the press to put pressure on Georgetown to schedule a series and that's not how you go about it." Frankly, you'll see comments along those lines anywhere when people try to use the press for leverage to get something they want when direct conversation/negotiation isn't working.
His son allows him to have a presence in the program. He's clearly not coaching. If that's OK with JTIII it's OK with me.
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Post by EtomicB on May 7, 2011 8:23:58 GMT -5
Will Pops ever let III be the voice of the program and how they feel about things? If you want to step down/aside--then do so. If not--shouldn't have stepped down. +100 Time for JT3 to take a full hold of the reins
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Post by DanMcQ on May 7, 2011 9:04:51 GMT -5
JTIII has full hold of the reins. Does his father's radio job afford him a pulpit from which to comment? Of course. Is that likely to end any time soon? No. Does it lend to the perception that Pops may still be running the show? Of course.
However, it's a leap without proof to conclude that Pops is still running the show.
It's JTIII's decision about how much involvement his father has, not ours.
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Post by dreamhoya on May 7, 2011 9:30:18 GMT -5
although i disliked his underhanded jabs at GU, i still respect Gary and can't deny the success he's had at MD. Good luck in the future Gary. Never heard another coach complain about ya; that's a sign of respect. Can't fault that.
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Post by kchoya on May 7, 2011 9:31:53 GMT -5
Will Pops ever let III be the voice of the program and how they feel about things? If you want to step down/aside--then do so. If not--shouldn't have stepped down. +100 Time for JT3 to take a full hold of the reins Can you explain how JT3 doesn't have "a full hold of the reins?"
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