dreamhoya
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Post by dreamhoya on May 7, 2011 9:36:00 GMT -5
I agree with Dan and RDF both. In the end though, JT jr. says that his son asks him to butt out when he wants him to. I believe that. Read the article. Big John says that JTIII would schedule anyone. Big John would never do that. This tells me that JTIII does what he wants. I also don't think that Big John is the type of person to overstep another coach let alone his son.
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DanMcQ
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Post by DanMcQ on May 7, 2011 9:41:08 GMT -5
I actually think Pops adds a lot to the program. He's a great mentor for the kids and is a role model of achievement for them.
That said, he's never been particularly quiet, retiring, or user friendly. I wouldn't expect that to change and if it did, I'd worry something was wrong.
Don't get me wrong - I agree completely with RDF that a coach needs to run the show his way and be completely in charge. I do not see any solid evidence here to the contrary.
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Post by the_way on May 7, 2011 9:42:53 GMT -5
JT2 is a control freak by nature. He even jokes about (but is serious) about meddling in his JTIII's life. JTIII has even said that his father doesn't know how to be hands-off...its just not in his nature.
JTIII is his own man. Has always been. He learned a lot of basketball outside of his father, which has made JTIII a great coach and shaped him to be his own man.
JTIII is strong enough and secure enough within himself to keep his father around the program and in the mix. But its to a certain limit. As JT2 alluded to, you can just look at the out of conference scheduling in where the 2 Thompson's differ.
JTIII is no flunky, he is not a figurehead. He is the boss of the program.
As far as JT2's comments about Anderson, he is 100% correct. Don't play games in the paper. Anderson is using the press for his down on its luck basketball program to be resurrected by playing a program that is in much better shape in Georgetown. thats how Gary Williams got the ball rolling, playing Georgetown and beating them. Anderson needs the game. Georgetown does not. Its a sorry way to go about doing business and its a passive-aggressive way.
JT2 brought up a good point about who does the scheduling. Anderson is making it look like he is coordinating the whole thing by talking about it, so in case it doesn't fall through (which could be very likely), then he looks good to the public and Georgetown looks bad.
Also, would Maryland really want this game if they were winning and in the NCAA's like they were in the late 90's and early 00's, i think not.
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nodak89
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Post by nodak89 on May 7, 2011 9:52:44 GMT -5
JTIII is comfortable in his own skin
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Post by TBird41 on May 7, 2011 10:29:51 GMT -5
+100 Time for JT3 to take a full hold of the reins Can you explain how JT3 doesn't have "a full hold of the reins?" I mean, it's obvious that JT2 is running the program. You can tell based on the high energy pressing defense and pound it into the post offense that JT3 uses.
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hoyainspirit
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Post by hoyainspirit on May 7, 2011 10:51:21 GMT -5
Can you explain how JT3 doesn't have "a full hold of the reins?" I mean, it's obvious that JT2 is running the program. You can tell based on the high energy pressing defense and pound it into the post offense that JT3 uses. Plus, we play soooo many cupcakes pre conference!
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Post by EtomicB on May 7, 2011 11:02:03 GMT -5
+100 Time for JT3 to take a full hold of the reins Can you explain how JT3 doesn't have "a full hold of the reins?" All I'm saying is it's time for him to ask his Pops to step aside or take much more of a background mode. I don't think it does JT3 any good when Pops is on the radio commenting on potential recruits(I never thought Moses was a good fit for this system) or speaking with reporters about how the team "overachieved" or even getting involved in this possible scheduling with Maryland. It promotes the perception that JT2 is still heavily involved in the program. Honestly imho whatever beef Pops had with the Maryland program is "his" beef not JT3's or G'town's... From the quotes in that article he didn't just spank the Maryland AD, he spanked G'towns AD also.. JT3 has to work with Lee not his Pops.. JT2 is kinda like the overbearing grandparent many of us have seen or know... sometimes you gotta sack up and tell them to bud out! In a nice way of course ;D
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Post by KirbyKeger on May 7, 2011 11:06:47 GMT -5
This JT3/JT2 talk is great, but someone should probably make note of the fact that reports indicate Sean Miller will be named the new coach at Maryland. Yikes.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on May 7, 2011 11:35:33 GMT -5
They also indicated that Painter would take over at Mizzou. Until it's officially announced. I think he stays at Arizna and gets a nice big pay raise.
I get that having recruits in the area is an advantage and nice. But If i'm already getting great recruits I don't see why it's a huge draw for me. No one is going to be able to come in to the maryland job and lock down the DMV. Duke and UNC will still constantly take great players out of the area. Maryland's not going to be a better option all of a sudden. And there are plenty of BE schools besides just us that recruit DC well. The point is there are plenty of schools reaching into DC for recruits from all the major conferences. I don't think being in the area is the biggest deal. You can recruit DC with out being in DC. I don't know that just because Maryland becomes a better option than it was under Gary that they're going to get a ton of the DC talent.
It's a local school, but I don't get the sense that a lot of kids in the area are that attached to it the way some other states are attatched to their state school. I think a lot of it is the transient nature of DC. People come from all over and bring their alliegences with them. People don't really grow up supporting maryland as much as say kids from Ohio grow up following Ohio St.
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Post by hoya95 on May 7, 2011 11:46:05 GMT -5
Not sure if I'll get in trouble for jumping the gun or for trusting Kevin Sheehan, but 980 says it's Sean Miller. twitter.com/#!/ESPNRadio980/status/66893419288604672
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Post by dungeon ball on May 7, 2011 11:57:53 GMT -5
does miller have local connections or something??? I just don't get the appeal over zona
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Post by RDF on May 7, 2011 12:11:19 GMT -5
Apparently family wants to be back on East coast--and Maryland is a great job opportunity. Good for them/him. For those who are scared/upset, just means you have to produce/work harder to keep up. This guy won't be golfing when it's recruiting season but he also won't be in Big East, so it's a lot to do about nothing. More then enough players to go around and be successful against the "UCLA of the East".
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Post by daytonahoya31 on May 7, 2011 12:19:26 GMT -5
trouble for us...this is a definite upgrade over gary....he's going to recruit the area like a beast...hope III and his staff are ready for the challenge
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Post by daytonahoya31 on May 7, 2011 12:19:54 GMT -5
Josh Pastner is packing his bags for 'zona as we speak
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on May 7, 2011 12:34:34 GMT -5
Josh Pastner is packing his bags for 'zona as we speak If they want him I'm sure he'd take it. Not necessarily sure he's the first choice though. Great recruiter, but hasn't proven himself as a coach yet. If he does leave, who does memphis go after? Still will be surprised if Miller actually pulls the trigger on this. Basketball wise I see no reason to leave a great situation for one that has potential to be great, but will at least be crappy for a couple years.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on May 7, 2011 12:48:03 GMT -5
Reading the reports It's not a done deal by far. They're meeting today in Vegas where Miller is scheduled to speak at a meeting.
Seems like the only reason he's interested in the Maryland job is his family isn't enjoying it in Arizona. Basketball wise he has no reason to leave, seems like if he does leave it will be a personal decision. Which is fine and you have to respect. Lucky for the terps.
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KirbyKeger
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Post by KirbyKeger on May 7, 2011 13:03:37 GMT -5
Yeah, it seems like the gun might be getting jumped a bit here. Nothing official has happened yet. The coaching carousel is spinning very quickly all of a sudden though, that's for sure. The more I learn about Miller's background and family, the more likely this seems. I just don't think its a done deal yet though. For what its worth, Shabazz Muhammad's scheduled visit to Arizona tomorrow is apparently still on. Word is Miller doesn't want this to drag out, and a final decision will come today.
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Post by Problem of Dog on May 7, 2011 14:54:48 GMT -5
This might be a great hire for Memphis' sake.
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Post by DanMcQ on May 7, 2011 15:07:14 GMT -5
MOD NOTE: Threads combined. We don't need TWO Maryland coaching threads - this is Hoyatalk after all.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on May 7, 2011 15:57:16 GMT -5
Reports now indicate that Jay Wright is not a candidate at UMCP. It sounds like there is a bidding war underway for Miller.
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