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Post by DanMcQ on May 10, 2011 11:16:11 GMT -5
KG being KG. Always been this way and always will. That's why he's a great sidekick and a joke when he was called "The Franchise". You're welcome for the hanging curveball, BTW.
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Post by TBird41 on May 10, 2011 11:25:28 GMT -5
KG being KG. Always been this way and always will. That's why he's a great sidekick and a joke when he was called "The Franchise". You're welcome for the hanging curveball, BTW. Kinda disappointed that all RDF got out of that meatball was a solid single. That's the kind of pitch you gotta drive
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Post by EasyEd on May 10, 2011 12:21:05 GMT -5
Interesting statistics: Durant, 35 points, 13 rebounds, 4 steals, 16-18 FTs Kendrick Perkins, C, 4 points, 8 rebounds, fouled out Marc Gasol, C, 26 points, 21 rebounds Chris Bosh, PF, 20 points, 12 rebounds Kevin Garnett, PF, 7 points, 10 rebounds People who judge how guys played based off stat lines deleted. So we know how Ed judges things. Perkins is never going to win a statistical battle-but his teams win games. He's biggest difference in OKC--due to him allowing Ibaka to take Jeff's spot and providing what is needed. Bosh biggest plays come off fact entire Celtic team has to overreact to how Wade/Lebron drive the lane and Heat had Celtics in penalty with 7 min left in 4th quarter. A tip in being 7'0 against Ray Allen when game is already decided hardly is impressive. Then again-Bosh/KG aren't that different--as I've always pointed out. Garnett has/was never a franchise caliber player--he's a great "supporting guy" but not the guy because he's incapable of scoring consistently and doesn't play in paint like he should--which is exactly how Bosh plays, although KG is vastly superior in terms of defensive ability--which makes Bosh a homeless version of Dirk--only in a homosexual avatar body. Durant's performance in a 63 minute game wasn't the stuff of legend/what league wants him to be. He's got to do it and will get shot but he was a disappointment last night. That guy was nowhere to be found until Thunder had game wrapped up in triple OT. Westbrook and Harden saved their season and Durant was standing in the corner watching. Guess when the data don't support your position you rationalize. Game of basketball decided by who scores the most points.
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Post by Problem of Dog on May 10, 2011 12:52:54 GMT -5
People who judge how guys played based off stat lines deleted. So we know how Ed judges things. Perkins is never going to win a statistical battle-but his teams win games. He's biggest difference in OKC--due to him allowing Ibaka to take Jeff's spot and providing what is needed. Bosh biggest plays come off fact entire Celtic team has to overreact to how Wade/Lebron drive the lane and Heat had Celtics in penalty with 7 min left in 4th quarter. A tip in being 7'0 against Ray Allen when game is already decided hardly is impressive. Then again-Bosh/KG aren't that different--as I've always pointed out. Garnett has/was never a franchise caliber player--he's a great "supporting guy" but not the guy because he's incapable of scoring consistently and doesn't play in paint like he should--which is exactly how Bosh plays, although KG is vastly superior in terms of defensive ability--which makes Bosh a homeless version of Dirk--only in a homosexual avatar body. Durant's performance in a 63 minute game wasn't the stuff of legend/what league wants him to be. He's got to do it and will get shot but he was a disappointment last night. That guy was nowhere to be found until Thunder had game wrapped up in triple OT. Westbrook and Harden saved their season and Durant was standing in the corner watching. Guess when the data don't support your position you rationalize. Game of basketball decided by who scores the most points. Incredibly stupid to say Durant was watching. Russell Westbrook was playing like that 8 year old kid who plays point guard so he can take every shot. Not to mention, KD had 6 in a row, including a TOUGH floater and a FILTHY jumper in Battier's face to stretch the lead from 2 to 8 in the 3rd OT. The game wasn't close to out of reach until he put it there.
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Post by hoyarooter on May 10, 2011 13:25:10 GMT -5
Great game last night. Also, RDF, you are being too hard on Durant. He was huge in the third overtime. Finally, Marc Gasol had a tremendous game last night. I trumpeted how great the trade was for the Thunder right from the get go, and we know that Perkins isn't a scorer, but he is known for his defense, and let's face it, Gasol had his way with him last night. I don't see the Grizzlies too often, but that was the best game I've ever seen M. Gasol play.
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Post by RDF on May 10, 2011 14:32:04 GMT -5
People who judge how guys played based off stat lines deleted. So we know how Ed judges things. Perkins is never going to win a statistical battle-but his teams win games. He's biggest difference in OKC--due to him allowing Ibaka to take Jeff's spot and providing what is needed. Bosh biggest plays come off fact entire Celtic team has to overreact to how Wade/Lebron drive the lane and Heat had Celtics in penalty with 7 min left in 4th quarter. A tip in being 7'0 against Ray Allen when game is already decided hardly is impressive. Then again-Bosh/KG aren't that different--as I've always pointed out. Garnett has/was never a franchise caliber player--he's a great "supporting guy" but not the guy because he's incapable of scoring consistently and doesn't play in paint like he should--which is exactly how Bosh plays, although KG is vastly superior in terms of defensive ability--which makes Bosh a homeless version of Dirk--only in a homosexual avatar body. Durant's performance in a 63 minute game wasn't the stuff of legend/what league wants him to be. He's got to do it and will get shot but he was a disappointment last night. That guy was nowhere to be found until Thunder had game wrapped up in triple OT. Westbrook and Harden saved their season and Durant was standing in the corner watching. Guess when the data don't support your position you rationalize. Game of basketball decided by who scores the most points. Typical Ed---when he thinks he has a point to make-he appears, when he's wrong--runs away DELETED and has lapse of memory. Maybe it's time to treat you like a wounded old dog and put you out of your misery. ;D Realize it was past your bedtime, so you didn't watch the OKC-Memphis game. Westbrook and Harden kept Thunder in the game with big shots and making plays in OT. Westbrook being labeled a selfish player is based on Game 4 of Denver series and fact Durant is seen as a good kid--so nobody wants to go at him for standing and watching his teammates. He was facing tough defense from Battier and stood and watched for last 9 min of regulation, 1st and 2nd OT--minus his 35 ft fadeaway 3 attempt which was worst shot OKC got in any OT, then he finally hit some shots when teammates (Westbrook/Ibaka) gave them lead for good. There are ways to score when you don't have ball--like getting after it on glass, or dare I say--a 6'11 guy should post up a smaller defender? If you want to float outside 3pt line and stand in spot and half ass towards ball allowing defender to keep ball from you, you dont' want it, so why wouldn't Westbrook and Harden go to work? They were scoring and getting to rim, team was down 2-1 in series. Should they not drive or shoot when open? Last night wasn't time to bash Westbrook, without him they lose by double digits in OT. Bosh and Garnett is a wash. Bosh did nothing to decide that game. He outplayed Garnett. And who on this site has always gone in on KG? I avoided the easy shot at KG because it's too easy--he's exactly what I've stated for years and nobody knew because nobody watched Wolves games. DELETED Kendrick Perkins has helped OKC and with him/without Jeff, they've advanced further then last year, have a chance to go to WCF and are a better team. As a person who hated the trade of him for Boston, how am I wrong? The stat that Perkins impacts is W column--and if you followed his career, you wouldn't expect him to put up monster numbers--his impact is about defensive presence and making their team better by allowing Ibaka and Collison to play PF's and defend PF position instead of having Kristic and crew have to defend Centers. Just quit trying if you can't remember who said what DELETED.
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Post by RDF on May 10, 2011 14:34:06 GMT -5
You're welcome for the hanging curveball, BTW. Kinda disappointed that all RDF got out of that meatball was a solid single. That's the kind of pitch you gotta drive No reason to destroy Garnett, called this shot decade in advance. Besides-it wasn't like KG got worked by Bosh--he had to help defend the drives of Wade/James, challenge shots and a 7'0 guy should be able to score with nobody near him/basket wide open. Watching two 7'0 guys play like they are 6'2 SG is awful basketball.
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Post by RDF on May 10, 2011 14:40:55 GMT -5
Great game last night. Also, RDF, you are being too hard on Durant. He was huge in the third overtime. Finally, Marc Gasol had a tremendous game last night. I trumpeted how great the trade was for the Thunder right from the get go, and we know that Perkins isn't a scorer, but he is known for his defense, and let's face it, Gasol had his way with him last night. I don't see the Grizzlies too often, but that was the best game I've ever seen M. Gasol play. Game never gets to 3rd OT without Westbrook/Harden and Durant was a non factor--due to his own inactivity. There was a 9 minute stretch where he didn't take a shot--and everyone bagging on Westbrook ignored how easy he was getting to rim/scoring and kicking out to Harden who was open--while Durant was standing with Battier in front of him. No hard cuts, no post ups-just standing at 3pt line with half hearted faints. Guy goes to FT line if someone breathes on him--go get the ball and drive. Think he's a great talent but not sold on how tough he is--and this is stage you prove that. Playoff games are ugly at times and to be on the level everyone has given him, you have to find ways to contribute if you can't score, aren't getting open. Everyone bags on players they hate--but one thing about Lebron, Kobe, Wade, Carmelo, Dirk, Pierce, Allen is they will not accept a "bad game" when it's a tight game--they'll take shot. Missing isnt failure--not participating is. I hope Durant ends up being that guy-but last night was too much standing/watching for a guy that league has put in category they have without him proving it. That's all I'm saying. Wait for him to do it before we celebrate him for thinking he will. Grant Hill/Tracy McGrady/Vince Carter all were given the status too-and they played themselves out of it. Can't wish it for someone--you earn it.
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Post by RDF on May 10, 2011 15:11:57 GMT -5
This is getting far too much attention--hell some will have Bynum as JFK assassin now. He should've just apologized to Barea in private and having to admit what most normal people understand--wish you could take it back, etc......waste of time. Hope it makes the "peace and love" faction of society happy. Editedralsokittensorcats.
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Post by Buckets on May 10, 2011 16:28:30 GMT -5
This is getting far too much attention--hell some will have Bynum as JFK assassin now. He should've just apologized to Barea in private and having to admit what most normal people understand--wish you could take it back, etc......waste of time. Hope it makes the "peace and love" faction of society happy. Editedralsokittensorcats. Well his agent probably reminded him that he'll be missing some paychecks with the lockout looming anyway, so best to minimize how many you miss once the games start again. This is getting the amount of attention it's getting because nobody likes the Lakers, but you're also defending this way too much. Staying grounded and using that leverage into a guy who's airborne is dangerous, bush league, and a huge bitch move. The way Barea landed he's lucky he didn't dislocate his shoulder, and if Bynum hits him a little more toward the chest there's a pretty good chance the back of Barea's skull breaks his fall. You want to go up and body a guy, fine, but what Bynum did is a step away from intentionally undercutting.
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Post by kchoya on May 10, 2011 16:54:19 GMT -5
This is getting far too much attention--hell some will have Bynum as JFK assassin now. He should've just apologized to Barea in private and having to admit what most normal people understand--wish you could take it back, etc......waste of time. Hope it makes the "peace and love" faction of society happy. Editedralsokittensorcats. Well his agent probably reminded him that he'll be missing some paychecks with the lockout looming anyway, so best to minimize how many you miss once the games start again. This is getting the amount of attention it's getting because nobody likes the Lakers, but you're also defending this way too much. Staying grounded and using that leverage into a guy who's airborne is dangerous, bush league, and a huge bitch move. The way Barea landed he's lucky he didn't dislocate his shoulder, and if Bynum hits him a little more toward the chest there's a pretty good chance the back of Barea's skull breaks his fall. You want to go up and body a guy, fine, but what Bynum did is a step away from intentionally undercutting. Great points. RDF fails to grasp there's a difference between playing hard and playing dirty. But that doesn't surprise me.
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Post by EasyEd on May 10, 2011 18:21:00 GMT -5
Guess when the data don't support your position you rationalize. Game of basketball decided by who scores the most points. Typical Ed---when he thinks he has a point to make-he appears, when he's wrong--runs away DELETED and has lapse of memory. Maybe it's time to treat you like a wounded old dog and put you out of your misery. ;D Realize it was past your bedtime, so you didn't watch the OKC-Memphis game. Westbrook and Harden kept Thunder in the game with big shots and making plays in OT. Westbrook being labeled a selfish player is based on Game 4 of Denver series and fact Durant is seen as a good kid--so nobody wants to go at him for standing and watching his teammates. He was facing tough defense from Battier and stood and watched for last 9 min of regulation, 1st and 2nd OT--minus his 35 ft fadeaway 3 attempt which was worst shot OKC got in any OT, then he finally hit some shots when teammates (Westbrook/Ibaka) gave them lead for good. There are ways to score when you don't have ball--like getting after it on glass, or dare I say--a 6'11 guy should post up a smaller defender? If you want to float outside 3pt line and stand in spot and half ass towards ball allowing defender to keep ball from you, you dont' want it, so why wouldn't Westbrook and Harden go to work? They were scoring and getting to rim, team was down 2-1 in series. Should they not drive or shoot when open? Last night wasn't time to bash Westbrook, without him they lose by double digits in OT. Bosh and Garnett is a wash. Bosh did nothing to decide that game. He outplayed Garnett. And who on this site has always gone in on KG? I avoided the easy shot at KG because it's too easy--he's exactly what I've stated for years and nobody knew because nobody watched Wolves games. DELETED Kendrick Perkins has helped OKC and with him/without Jeff, they've advanced further then last year, have a chance to go to WCF and are a better team. As a person who hated the trade of him for Boston, how am I wrong? The stat that Perkins impacts is W column--and if you followed his career, you wouldn't expect him to put up monster numbers--his impact is about defensive presence and making their team better by allowing Ibaka and Collison to play PF's and defend PF position instead of having Kristic and crew have to defend Centers. Just quit trying if you can't remember who said what DELETED. And if the data doesn't support your position and rationalization alone doesn't work, make fun of those who disagree with you. Do you kick dogs too?
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Post by RDF on May 10, 2011 23:51:06 GMT -5
Typical Ed---when he thinks he has a point to make-he appears, when he's wrong--runs away DELETED and has lapse of memory. Maybe it's time to treat you like a wounded old dog and put you out of your misery. ;D Realize it was past your bedtime, so you didn't watch the OKC-Memphis game. Westbrook and Harden kept Thunder in the game with big shots and making plays in OT. Westbrook being labeled a selfish player is based on Game 4 of Denver series and fact Durant is seen as a good kid--so nobody wants to go at him for standing and watching his teammates. He was facing tough defense from Battier and stood and watched for last 9 min of regulation, 1st and 2nd OT--minus his 35 ft fadeaway 3 attempt which was worst shot OKC got in any OT, then he finally hit some shots when teammates (Westbrook/Ibaka) gave them lead for good. There are ways to score when you don't have ball--like getting after it on glass, or dare I say--a 6'11 guy should post up a smaller defender? If you want to float outside 3pt line and stand in spot and half ass towards ball allowing defender to keep ball from you, you dont' want it, so why wouldn't Westbrook and Harden go to work? They were scoring and getting to rim, team was down 2-1 in series. Should they not drive or shoot when open? Last night wasn't time to bash Westbrook, without him they lose by double digits in OT. Bosh and Garnett is a wash. Bosh did nothing to decide that game. He outplayed Garnett. And who on this site has always gone in on KG? I avoided the easy shot at KG because it's too easy--he's exactly what I've stated for years and nobody knew because nobody watched Wolves games. DELETED Kendrick Perkins has helped OKC and with him/without Jeff, they've advanced further then last year, have a chance to go to WCF and are a better team. As a person who hated the trade of him for Boston, how am I wrong? The stat that Perkins impacts is W column--and if you followed his career, you wouldn't expect him to put up monster numbers--his impact is about defensive presence and making their team better by allowing Ibaka and Collison to play PF's and defend PF position instead of having Kristic and crew have to defend Centers. Just quit trying if you can't remember who said what DELETED. And if the data doesn't support your position and rationalization alone doesn't work, make fun of those who disagree with you. Do you kick dogs too? Answer this--did you watch the games or look at the box scores? The "data" more then supports what I've said and unlike DELETED, I've actually stated it before it happens or will happen. Chris Bosh is a joke and has been exposed this entire season. He's in Miami to get recognized and not to win. Everything he does is calculated and people see through him. He's a 7'0 soft as marshmellow jumpshooter. Dan posted one of the Bosh-ian links to provide a glimpse into this guy. Did he play better then he did in entire series? Yes-give you that. Did you watch the game and how most of his points came? Did you see Miami take him out of the game in last minute of regulation when game was on line? Likely not--but you can use a mouse to click on some stats. Which is typical of your uninformed posts. KG-been there done that with him over a decade. Great teammate and support guy/not a franchise player and doesn't want the ball with game on the line/can't go to him. Another 7'0 jumpshooter. Durant was doing a lot of watching. Didn't say he was a bad player, just mentioned that Westbrook/Harden had big games and Durant's got to do more to go get the ball. He can't just accept that when a play breaks down, he's covered. If you measure Kendrick Perkins value by stats, you obviously don't understand anything about what he does for a team and why he's valued. His job isn't to outscore Marc Gasol and those numbers you put up were in a 63 minute game--not 48 which Perkins team WON--to even the series up, after winning in Round 1 which they'd not done until he got there with this group. So, I'd say he's helped the team. Would you rather win a game or have nicer stats?
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Post by RDF on May 10, 2011 23:56:06 GMT -5
Well his agent probably reminded him that he'll be missing some paychecks with the lockout looming anyway, so best to minimize how many you miss once the games start again. This is getting the amount of attention it's getting because nobody likes the Lakers, but you're also defending this way too much. Staying grounded and using that leverage into a guy who's airborne is dangerous, bush league, and a huge bitch move. The way Barea landed he's lucky he didn't dislocate his shoulder, and if Bynum hits him a little more toward the chest there's a pretty good chance the back of Barea's skull breaks his fall. You want to go up and body a guy, fine, but what Bynum did is a step away from intentionally undercutting. Great points. RDF fails to grasp there's a difference between playing hard and playing dirty. But that doesn't surprise me. Never defended the play, just said people overreact to this crap. If....if this happened or that happened, well did it happen? No. Was it a dumb play? Of course. Just seeing the overreaction to it and how some were wanting a 20 game suspension because a 5'5 twerp got dumped on his can is as stupid as the act that got him ejected. People are such wimps today. What ribbon will we all have to wear to honor JJ Barea "toughness" day? As for Bynum, he'll be fine/doubt he's worried about the lockout and his finances. NBA has guaranteed money and whatever happens-he's on books for 30+ million the next 2 years and then is a FA when he'll only be 25 years old. 7'0 back to basket Centers are rare these days and he'll make over hundred million in his career. Is it so hard to understand that he might have felt embarrassed/remorseful after realizing it was a stupid foul? People do dumb crap, doesn't mean that you punish them more severely because you dislike their team and play out scenarios that could've happened. Steve Blake could've gotten brain damage from the Jason Terry shove into the row of camera men in regular season and Matt Barnes could've knocked Terry Stotts into Jack Nicholson's shoe and killed him. Do we need to continue this? Should these guys be imprisoned?
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Post by kchoya on May 11, 2011 11:54:33 GMT -5
Nice chunk of change? Ha!
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Post by DanMcQ on May 11, 2011 23:13:52 GMT -5
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Post by RDF on May 12, 2011 0:15:15 GMT -5
Lockout will be a very interesting test for a guy who thinks he can start and is playing 15-20 lbs overweight. Will he hire someone on his own and work hard or will he go "kemp" and reappear as Oliver Miller's thigh?
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