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Post by RDF on Jun 10, 2011 0:58:04 GMT -5
Time for Spoelstra to stop with the JET/LeBron match up. It takes away from LeBron's strength as a help defender and takes him out of his 'rover' role, and if JET is able to beat him off the dribble then it's pointless to start with now. Was an advantage for Miami early in the series but now he better adjust. Don't get why he even bothers with Bibby. Chalmers handle is shaky, but no reason to not play him big minutes now. Also don't understand why you would go away from the cross screen that got LeBron on the block and were successful. think the guy has done a nice job this year, but Carlisle is handing it to him right now. but to be fair, it's a players league and LeBron isn't making the plays (or shots) he hit in the prior 2 rounds. Terry and Kidd did late. and in the end, Dallas was probably due for a shooting night like that at home. Think this goes 7 and still believe Miami wins. James should demand to take on Dirk like most players of his ability and talent do---whether Spoelstra wants it or not. You can't let the best player for other team get a matchup he's comfortable with--and if you are going to lose to Dallas--at least make others hit shots--like we've seen from Dallas--Bosh beating them--fine--give him credit and move on. Terry hitting that 3 in Lebron's face was game--but agree with you Alleninxis--why is he on him? Bibby is washed up. Why hasn't Eddie House played more? He's been on championship teams and has the playoff experience/lack of fear it takes. Is James Jones dead? Maybe I missed him being out due to severe injury-but he sure helped earlier in games. It's 3-2 and now we see who can play with pressure and who can't. These next 2 games are all about that more then basketball--we saw that last year in Lakers-Celtics series. Same scenario. Also same scenario for Mavs that they lost to Heat in '06. Having to go on road to close it out. Can they do it? They were best road team in league, and they are scary when streaking but have to think Miami at least forces a Game 7--but Miami better knock Dallas out--because if it's close late, those elbows might get tight and Lebron might feel he HAS to shoot instead of just making plays--guy has a triple double and is being talked as if he was worst player on court.
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Post by alleninxis on Jun 10, 2011 1:06:42 GMT -5
I agree, I want to see him take Dirk regardless of what Spoelstra has planned. At least in crunch time. Haslem has done an admirable job, but LeBron is capable of giving more problems to Dirk.
I think I'm one of the few Eddie House fans on the planet. You'll get energy, at the very least. Missed 2 shots tonight (one badly) but at least stuck his nose in there and didn't hurt the team. Bibby is just there. Gives nothing.
Just want to see LeBron at the rim more, and if he can't get there off the dribble, I think the cross screens are what will work for him this series. At worst, he'll draw a double team and they can go from there. Once Wade came back they just went away from it and it was back to taking jump shots late.
to your last point, If the 'social media' age is going to kill players like this.. I genuinely feel sorry for the next prodigy that comes along. Only gets worse from here.
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Post by RDF on Jun 10, 2011 1:36:56 GMT -5
I agree, I want to see him take Dirk regardless of what Spoelstra has planned. At least in crunch time. Haslem has done an admirable job, but LeBron is capable of giving more problems to Dirk. I think I'm one of the few Eddie House fans on the planet. You'll get energy, at the very least. Missed 2 shots tonight (one badly) but at least stuck his nose in there and didn't hurt the team. Bibby is just there. Gives nothing. Just want to see LeBron at the rim more, and if he can't get there off the dribble, I think the cross screens are what will work for him this series. At worst, he'll draw a double team and they can go from there. Once Wade came back they just went away from it and it was back to taking jump shots late. to your last point, If the 'social media' age is going to kill players like this.. I genuinely feel sorry for the next prodigy that comes along. Only gets worse from here. I'd go Chalmers (guy isn't afraid to take/make a big shot) and House. Bibby can go audtion for Austin Powers The Guard who Loved Me. Thank goodness I was watching the games and not following what was said on Twitter during Hoya games. That must have been BRUTAL. Haslem is a Pro--my favorite role player on Heat--works hard, gives them everything he's got and never says a word.
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Post by hoyarooter on Jun 10, 2011 11:48:13 GMT -5
The Heat have a lot of veterans, but it's going to be really interesting to see how they react to the pressure - because let's face it, as a team, they've never been there.
I didn't think I was going to see a game like last night's in this series, I enjoy good defense, but I'll admit it, I have a prejudice for games where teams make shots, and that was really the first game where either team made shots with regularity.
I agree that LeBron should guard Dirk. Marion isn't going to go crazy if guarded by Haslem or Bosh. The thing about Dirk, though, is that if he's on, it doesn't matter who is guarding him. He made tons of shots against the Lakers with Odom or somebody else practically enveloping him.
I've been wondering about the absence of James Jones throughout this series. I guess Spoelstra must think he's a bad matchup defensively, as I see no other reason for his lack of playing time.
If Dallas wins, do you guys think Kidd will retire?
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Post by RDF on Jun 10, 2011 12:51:18 GMT -5
As a fan who detests the "Player X has the flu" or "He's playing through this injury" and already stated my opinion that if you are on the court, you are healthy/judged by how you play and not what ailment you have, must say that reading about Lebron and Wade mocking Dirk's sinus infection/fever was unbelievable. Out of all the players in the NBA, Dwyane Wade is the LAST guy who should mock someone for embelishment. I didn't see Dirk:
1. Use a wheelchair to leave game but return in same game.
2. Make sure the entire nation sees a big wrap on his shoulder and doing shoulder exercises when he was dreadful in a game/only to play fine in 4th with no sense of any injury.
3. Act like Lee Harvey Oswald came back from grave and sniped them when they get bumped to floor (Dirk flops/acts, but NOBODY does this as well as Wade)
4. Get upset that fans don't like his team when losing a regular season game. Poor Dwyane, it's not right that fans hate the Heat and still laugh at fact this pompous DBag can't figure out why majority of fans can't stand them.
5. Blow off TNT for postgame interview on set because his "friend" had nerve to pick other team and criticize he/team.
So Wade-who is in best position of the 3 name players on Heat (he only gets credit/no fault despite fact that without Shaq/Lebron he led Heat to nothing--you know unlike James who actually carried an awful Cavs team to Finals, EC Finals,) is able to say/do whatever he likes. What a joke and hope someone in media has the balls to point out how much of an ACTOR that Mr. Wade has been throughout his career.
As for Lebron---for such a talented guy, nobody has any right to say a thing about another's health issue when Nike will jump in and protect you for getting dunked on at a meaningless camp game by a College player, call Barkley to tell him to lay off criticism. Can you imagine what Nike/his people would do if he had an infected hair?
Just made this series full of more hatred-from fans who hate the Heat, teams who hate each other, and glad it happened--because hatred is great for competition and it also exposes Wade for what he is--a phony.
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Post by hoya95 on Jun 10, 2011 13:30:47 GMT -5
Agree on all that, and I am really surprised a bench player didn't put James Brown's cape over Wade as he was heading to the locker room last night. Wade's fall down and hold his eye after not being touched on his heave at the end of Game 2 will go into the Flop Hall of Fame. Cannot believe lightning didn't strike him when he said that Dirk "didn't need all the dramatics".
Never thought this would be the case, but Bosh has become by far the most likable of the group. At least he can do a press conference by himself. God, I hope the Mavs put them away.
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Post by prhoya on Jun 10, 2011 13:35:10 GMT -5
After Game 4, the Mavs pointed out all the acting and the phantom fouls against Wade and Lebron. It worked. Game 5 was called tighter than Game 4. I think Wade and Lebron are giving the league and the refs some of the same medicine in preparation for Game 6.
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Post by RDF on Jun 10, 2011 13:53:28 GMT -5
After Game 4, the Mavs pointed out all the acting and the phantom fouls against Wade and Lebron. It worked. Game 5 was called tighter than Game 4. I think Wade and Lebron are giving the league and the refs some of the same medicine in preparation for Game 6. How is calling out a player as "faking" an illness effecting officiating? Why would it? Wade has acted like a jackass in this area for his entire career. Do we need to get into the "I need to wear sunglasses on the court due to my migraines" too? Heat got lifetime worth of calls in Game 3 of '06 Finals (and I wanted Zo to get a ring, but that Finals was about as Fixed as it gets in Miami--Game 3 made Kings-Lakers Game 6 look cleanly officiated) and nobody wants calls to help these guys--they don't need it--afterall they are greatest thing to set foot on the court--just ask them. 95, Bosh was going to pressers with them--but then he was exposed for being less then the elite player they thought they were getting--so the Dynamic Duo seperated from him--and if they were to lose--Bosh will be the fall guy for them--he'll be offered in trades. Funny thing is-he's not changed his game at all--he's always been soft, inconsistent, weak on defense, not a great rebounder, nice outside shooter, never had a low post game, and was always talked up because of fact he played in Toronto as a "franchise caliber player". He's never been that/nor will he be. Good role player and a total clown off the court who cares more about being talked about/seen as a "brand" then being a basketball player. Bosh FT getting mentioned as a key play last night--well that would've cut it to 3/1 possession game unlike Wade missing a FT in Game 4 that would've tied the game late. Wonder why Wade didn't get ripped? Oh that's right it was all Lebron's fault for standing on court as he bricked the FT. T-Mobile Man can do no wrong. Hope Dirk drops 30+ in clinching game now that Wade decided to mock a guy who didn't say a word--his teammates/others did (still think that is lame but at least Dirk didn't do anything like Wade's done repeatedly).
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Post by HometownHoya on Jun 10, 2011 14:08:17 GMT -5
I'm a pretty big Wade fan but all the bitching he is doing to refs is really starting to turn me off. There was a sequence last night when Chalmers got a T for complaining an OBVIOUS flop by LeBron, then shortly at the other end, DWade was barely fouled and you could see him just yelling at the refs for a possession or two.
LeBron, LeBron, Lebron...Its unfortunate to see him go through this. I always liked him as a player but this is Karma for the way he went to the Heat. My question is how fast does he leave the Heat to try and carry the team to regain his "superstar" status.
Dirk winning would be the best thing for the league, imo. His work ethic is par none and is a great model for all future NBA players.
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Post by prhoya on Jun 10, 2011 14:10:53 GMT -5
It's preparation for Game 6. I hope Dirk drops 40 on them.
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Post by williambraskyiii on Jun 10, 2011 15:17:30 GMT -5
While the ridicule from Wade and LBJ is unwarrranted in any sense, I can understand their frustration to a degree with how the media handled it. I mean, comparing Dirk's Game 4 to the MJ flu game (and even asking Dirk a question about it in the postgame presser) is symptomatic of the media's foolishness and embellishment of every last thing. The Information Age does have its drawbacks after all.
That said, to pick on Dirk, who has been the consummate professional and not said a WORD about being less than 100% is just absurd. The guy gutted it out in Game 4 plain and simple.
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Post by hoya95 on Jun 12, 2011 22:13:13 GMT -5
Cannot recall the last time a team won the NBA Championship when no one in their right mind would have predicted it when the playoffs began. Good for them, good for Dirk, Jason Terry, Kidd, Barea, Chandler and all the rest. They really earned it.
A bit of an anticlimax in the 4th Quarter. But the Mavs had taken their will, and the Heat sure didn't have much fight left. I'm sure that'll be the topic of conversation for a long time. But this is a time to celebrate the champs. We saw a classy Mark Cuban, an emotional Dirk and a real sentimental favorite coming out of Dallas. Do you believe in Miracles? Congratulations Mavs!
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Post by DanMcQ on Jun 12, 2011 22:17:45 GMT -5
Congrats to the Mavs - happy for Rick Carlisle, who is a classy guy.
Who would have thought Bosh would be the only one of the Big Three to show up in the 4th quarter? Stark contrast between LeBron passing up shots while Dirk, who had an awful shooting night, took all the big shots.
Classy job by Mark Cuban as well.
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Post by alleninxis on Jun 12, 2011 22:28:00 GMT -5
Congrats to Dirk, Kidd, Carlisle & Cuban and the rest.
I'm not a big NBA guy, or at least hadn't been since Jordan retired up until about 3/4 years ago. It's a great product right now (dwarfs the current college game) and just hope the lock out issues can be resolved before October and get things right on schedule. Too good to go missing for a 1/2 year or year.
As a LeBron fan, disappointing..didn't think he played poorly tonight..but overall just not the series I was hoping for. This -24 stat is going to blown so far out of proportion it's not even funny.
Never did I think Stevenson, Cardinal and the back up C would knock down shots and with JET get Dirk to the finish line and have him close. Just an oddly constructed team, and one that you could have mad e the case should have blown up in prior years. Cuban and his basketball guys stuck with it and somehow it all came together this year.
If Pat Riley doesn't end up on the side line soon, I'll be shocked. Spoelstra has done a nice job but the pressure just mounts and eventually those guys are going to look to Riley and the vision he laid out for him and say...we need you.
They just have to hope for Wade being healthy, guys like Chalmers improving and finding a big man to plug in and they should be right back there next year. But the clock starts to tick now.
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Post by DanMcQ on Jun 12, 2011 22:40:10 GMT -5
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Post by alleninxis on Jun 12, 2011 22:43:31 GMT -5
Dan Gilbert being the same man who bought the Cavs after the money machine was in place and now is upset as he misses out on billions.
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Post by DanMcQ on Jun 12, 2011 22:50:08 GMT -5
"Miss[ing] out on billions" is beyond hyperbolic. There's a little more behind his words than simply money. LeBron and Wade are great, but you can't just throw 8 scrubs out there with them and win a NBA championship against a TEAM. Like Gilbert or not, he's right.
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Post by alleninxis on Jun 12, 2011 22:57:14 GMT -5
No, he's just bitter.
Not much else to it.
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Post by deacon on Jun 12, 2011 23:06:44 GMT -5
No, he's just bitter. Not much else to it. Agreed 100%.
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Post by DanMcQ on Jun 12, 2011 23:08:02 GMT -5
Clearly he's bitter. No argument there. I'm pretty certain he's still making money.
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