EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Apr 10, 2011 11:12:08 GMT -5
Looks like Greg was on campus yesterday too playing ball.. I saw this post on Casual's site....
"superstarGreg23 Well had fun ballin yesterday wit my future teammates..#Hoyas"
A good move by the staff to have him come out while Otto was there.
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Post by sleepy on Apr 10, 2011 11:28:45 GMT -5
It sounds like Porter is going to choose wherever he fits in best and feels most comfortable. So unless you know him personally and every single member on the other three teams and all three coaching staffs, I think its an impossible call about where he ends up.
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Post by alleninxis on Apr 10, 2011 11:32:15 GMT -5
which is why I don't see why it should be a shock if he did pick us.
I'd be mildly surprised if he did but I can bet nobody is out working Kirby to get him the past few months and he's down to 3 schools and is at our campus this weekend.
would think we have at least a punchers chance.
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Post by RDF on Apr 10, 2011 11:40:45 GMT -5
Hoyas have a serious shot--they got a visit from him and are only team under consideration outside of Big XII country. It just comes down to whether he wants to leave and go play in Big East or if he'd rather go to school closer to home.
As for the questioning as to who would/wouldn't play--that's decided on the court-but one thing that a lot of critical fans have been saying--it's important for this program to get bigger and more skilled while adding athleticism. Whittington/Porter add that. If anything--it's your holdovers who should be worried--when a staff is recruiting guys who they feel the program lacks--that is a pretty clear view to holdovers that they better improve or they'll be sitting. The best Georgetown teams under Thompson had guys like Porter/Whittington/Hollis on court at same time---think '06 team with Bowman, Green, Owens, and if you want to operate the system III does--you better be big/skilled and versatile. Backdoor cuts will open up again if you can throw guys on court who all can do things that make defense respect them.
Change has to come to make this program better again-and it always starts/ends with talent--so hope that Porter loved the visit and is a Hoya. If not--won't be from a lack of trying.
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Post by OldHoyafan on Apr 10, 2011 11:55:33 GMT -5
agree guru i'd be shocked if we got a commitment from Otto. The good thing is that it is obvious that the coach realizes that he needs to drastically improve talent. athleticsm, and length and do it now. Given who we've been targeting (mostly unsuccessfully) the past few years, I don't think this is a new development. I think our big disadvantage landing elite athletic wings is that we have no track record putting guys like this in the league (who actually play) - mostly because we don't get that talent. We likely need to show that a guy like Hollis or Whittington can excel in our system and become a first round pick before we become more attractive to elite SFs. Wouldn't hurt if we could put some guards in the league as well. Agree with most of what was said. Even though Summers was a small forward he played mostly big forward his last 2 years at Georgetown. Hollis is a small forward but played mostly big forward last year as a starter. I've said I believe that this was a result in both cases of JT3 trying to compose a lineup where his best shooter(Freeman) could be on the court as a starter(small forward). Now that that need is gone and the the staff has legitimate bigs coming in, guys like Porter and Whittington will play at the small forward position exclusively unless both are playing together, where I can invision them interchanging positions depending on who the opposition is. Porter will excell at the small forward position if he comes here. there will be plenty of playing time to show case his whole repertoire. |
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Post by idhoya on Apr 10, 2011 12:19:19 GMT -5
Think about this: Porter, GW, Hopkins and Adams are all at least 6'9. Adams, Porter and GW are said to be energy/effort/motor guys. This is bound to rub off on Hopkins, if it doesn't, Trawick and Nate will. lol.
My thinking is GW will play alot of 3, while Porter would play 4/3, ala Brandon Bowman. Imagine if Hoyas get anything out of Henry this season.
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Post by section110 on Apr 10, 2011 12:28:03 GMT -5
Think about this: Porter, GW, Hopkins and Adams are all at least 6'9. Adams, Porter and GW are said to be energy/effort/motor guys. This is bound to rub off on Hopkins, if it doesn't, Trawick and Nate will. lol. My thinking is GW will play alot of 3, while Porter would play 4/3, ala Brandon Bowman. Imagine if Hoyas get anything out of Henry this season. I envision a similar scenario, but more in line with what the 2007 team looked like. GW at the 3 (Summers) Porter at the 4 (Green, as a point-forward) Porter with his ball handling, passing, solid mid-range game and wingspan could be great in the role Green played. Let the offense run through him. Possibly that role with the team and the family atmosphere of the Hoyas could be successful selling points. |
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Post by idhoya on Apr 10, 2011 12:30:24 GMT -5
He'd back up Hollis, unless HT plays the 2 and JC goes to the bench.
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Post by RDF on Apr 10, 2011 12:54:35 GMT -5
He'd back up Hollis, unless HT plays the 2 and JC goes to the bench. Which SHOULD be the case. Clark either needs to improve or be a bench player. |
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Post by idhoya on Apr 10, 2011 12:57:54 GMT -5
HT has to work on off hand, but he's a prototype 2.
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Post by RDF on Apr 10, 2011 12:59:29 GMT -5
HT has to work on off hand, but he's a prototype 2. Clark needs to work on strong hand and weakhand, and shooting, passing, defense........and when in doubt--always go big/skilled over little and mediocre. |
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Post by idhoya on Apr 10, 2011 13:04:37 GMT -5
I think JC is a good stand still shooter, but has to regain his confidence and go to the rack more.
btw, Braedan Anderson just committed to Kansas. 6'8-6'9 PF....hmmm. That has to help Hoyas cause with Porter.
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Post by kchoya on Apr 10, 2011 16:19:33 GMT -5
HT has to work on off hand, but he's a prototype 2. I think he's more of a pure 3, can shoot the ball, drive, and rebound. |
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Apr 10, 2011 16:27:36 GMT -5
Haith has not talked to Porter yet.....KU takes Anderson and they want Daniels. As I said we should win this recruiting battle. Our potential upside is astounding if we get Otto and can add a really good big in 2012. Sell him on the possibility of cutting the nets down in 2013.
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Post by sleepy on Apr 10, 2011 16:57:13 GMT -5
Haith has not talked to Porter yet.....KU takes Anderson and they want Daniels. As I said we should win this recruiting battle. Our potential upside is astounding if we get Otto and can add a really good big in 2012. Sell him on the possibility of cutting the nets down in 2013. Recruits don't look at situations like this however. Considering it's their lives, choosing a college isn't this black and white. A big factor is feel, comfort level, and fit, not who's recruiting who and at what position. Porter may not like the personalities of the players on certain teams and love them on others. There are are too many factors you can't control in recruiting that you never "should" win a recruiting battle. The best thing you can ask for is a great chance and the staff has given us that. Unfortunately they've gotten that a lot and it just hasn't worked out. |
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Post by strummer8526 on Apr 10, 2011 17:01:29 GMT -5
HT has to work on off hand, but he's a prototype 2. Clark needs to work on strong hand and weakhand, and shooting, passing, defense........and when in doubt--always go big/skilled over little and mediocre. We want skilled players rather than mediocre players. Thanks for the insight. |
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Post by Highsmith on Apr 10, 2011 18:23:33 GMT -5
Based on recent posts/links, it seems as though Kansas has a number of other irons in the fire and Missouri's new coach may not be as interested as the previous one.......hopefully all that is true and we have Mr. Porter as a Hoya soon! I am still concerned a bit with the guard (ball handler) position, but I love how this team is (potentially) coming together.
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Post by wahoohoya on Apr 10, 2011 18:55:03 GMT -5
No chance Haith isn't highly interested. Didn't the no contact period just recently end? That's likely the reason.
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Post by damnhoya on Apr 10, 2011 20:58:58 GMT -5
Take it with a grain of salt but Greg Swaim is tweeting that he expects Otto to commit to KU soon.
Also, Anderson's commitment won't affect Otto at all. KU has FIVE open schollies right now. The Anderson argument is the same as saying Greg's commitment will drive Otto to KU.
Hopefully Swaim is wrong.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Apr 10, 2011 21:00:22 GMT -5
No chance Haith isn't highly interested. Didn't the no contact period just recently end? That's likely the reason. The point is coaches recently became allowed to contact recruits outside of the 1 phone call a weak. And yet Haith still hasn't talked to the kid yet. If you want the kid he should've your very first call. His lack of contact to this point has to be really troubling to missouri fans. |
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