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Post by HometownHoya on Apr 9, 2011 13:01:21 GMT -5
Agreed sleepy, I haven't ignored bronxie or btb because they do provide a unique opinion. As much as we may think hes a syracuse fan sometime, bronxie knows basketball. As over optimistic btb gets sometimes, there are some of you that get just as negative.
This has been a good year for new board additions and livening up the board
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Post by hoyasedge on Apr 9, 2011 13:30:24 GMT -5
No one minds the pessimism or opinions, it's writing in a style that makes me feel like I'm reading a first grader's Facebook profile. What's next for him? Baby talk? Geowgetown needs it's Otto Wotto? It's embarrassing.
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Post by lucky on Apr 9, 2011 13:36:33 GMT -5
Otto is on campus this weekend no? Has anyone seem him around? Any word from the Twitterpateds on how the visit is going?
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Apr 9, 2011 13:41:26 GMT -5
Ignore Bronxitos si lo quieres...no me importa. However you must overstand I speak the truth to the young black and white youth. Attack Bronxitos on something he said that you take umbrage with. When has he been wrong? I am not wrong about what ails us because it is as obvious as hades.
JT3 after years of thinking he was recruiting at Princeton sees now what I have been saying for 3 years. Systems do not win games.....players do. There is a reason that the Twolves' triangle does not succeed like the Lakers triangle.
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Post by EtomicB on Apr 9, 2011 13:43:57 GMT -5
Don't know why so many are picking on poor old bronxie. i happen to find his style somewhat refreshing on what has become somewhat of a stale board over the years. that and the fact he for a while has been ahead of the curve in identifying the overall talent level or lack of in this program for the last few years.I guess some have a hard time dealing with reality. regarding Little Kimba again i think he is spot on. Outside of an up and down freshman year in which he was a big contributor to a final four run i'd take him in a minute. As a frosh and sophmore he was by far a better defensive player than anyone in our program and his offensive stats as a sophmore are not that far behind what we got out of our pg guards in 2010. to claim he was horrible for 2 years, well denies reality and i have seen probably all but a handfull of the 90 odd games he has played. would be nice however if bronxie could occasionally make a few positive posts when things are going well, Hate to see people ignoring bronxie becuase the responses and counters are some of the most entertaining on this board. Gimme a break with this Kemba Walker garbage Sleepy. No one saw the season Kemba had coming not even the most diehard of Uconn fans(unfortunately I work with a bunch of them)so to me anyone who now brags on Kemba is full of it. He was a nice player who made a dramatic jump this year. You also have it wrong on this point also.. Bronxie has complained about the lack of "bouncy athletes" in the program not the lack of "talent". IMO there's a big difference between the two things |
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Apr 9, 2011 13:54:25 GMT -5
Athletes and talent have been a problem. Usually in the real world these things go hand in hand. Bronxitos saw King Kemba in high school and I knew he was special. He was important as a frosh taking Yukon to the Final 4. We need those kind of quick players....enough of the Chris Wright power guards flanked by a 2 and 3 who lack elite athleticism.
Again you cannot be nonathletic on the wings in college or pro ball. You will get eaten alive by dribble drives amongst other things.
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Post by MCIGuy on Apr 9, 2011 14:16:33 GMT -5
As much as I hate to say this I would concede that the success of Kemba is more of a result of Calhoun letting him do anything he wants one-on-one than I would concede that he is a vast superior athletic talent compared to Gtown's guard. But, hey, I could be wrong.
But I am pretty sure a pg like Chris Wright was just about as highly regarded coming out of high school as Kemba was. To say anything other than that is revisionism....or an example of NYC bias. Big Apple folks always think the players from their neck of the woods are better. And when that turns out to be the case five percent of the time, New York folks act as if they are the kin of Nostradamus.
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Apr 9, 2011 14:28:25 GMT -5
Calhoun playing to a great player's strength seems like a good idea to me. It also seems like it would be very attractive to other young kids.
Wright was highly regarded of course but he is not my type of point guard. I want quick players who can guard the ball and finish at the rim. You can keep the power guards who cant contain the dribble. Wright was made to look worse because the other guards on the team could not defend either.
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Post by prhoya on Apr 9, 2011 15:18:27 GMT -5
Give credit where credit is due. Calhoun started the season with having Kemba do everything because the team around him was young and not scorers like him. Slowly, but surely the rest of the team grew up, got the necessary experience and became a much better and balanced team. Basing myself on his previous years, I thought Kemba wouldn't be able to keep it up all season and it looked that way towards the end of the regular season. But, Kemba kept at it like a winner and came out on top. Wait, is this the Kemba thread?
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Post by kchoya on Apr 9, 2011 15:27:56 GMT -5
Ignore Bronxitos si lo quieres...no me importa. However you must overstand I speak the truth to the young black and white youth. Attack Bronxitos on something he said that you take umbrage with. When has he been wrong? I am not wrong about what ails us because it is as obvious as hades. JT3 after years of thinking he was recruiting at Princeton sees now what I have been saying for 3 years. Systems do not win games.....players do. There is a reason that the Twolves' triangle does not succeed like the Lakers triangle. Who are you, Editeding Yoda? Speak English. What a genius. The reason the Lakers are better than the Twolves are because they have better players? Wow. What insight. |
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Post by kchoya on Apr 9, 2011 15:30:29 GMT -5
Athletes and talent have been a problem. Usually in the real world these things go hand in hand. Bronxitos saw King Kemba in high school and I knew he was special. /quote] You and everyone else, including everyone that had him ranked as the #2 PG coming out. |
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Post by sleepy on Apr 9, 2011 15:41:34 GMT -5
I did't say i saw it coming on Kimba, just responding to those who said he was garbage for 2 years. If people realy watched him when given the ball last year he could attack the basket whenever he wanted and late in the year he proved he could hit the three with some consistency. I still think he is too much of a volume shooter/ scorer and is a 10 year backup pg in the league. from day one i wished our guys could defend like him and played with his intensity. Yes talent was the wrong word I think old bronxie want your bouncy athletes who compete something about above 115th street.
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Apr 9, 2011 16:15:11 GMT -5
Bronxitos speaks many languages for his mind is deep.....deeper than Atlantis.....deeper than the sea floor traveled by the Mantis. Yes better players like the ones we need to recruit will make you a better coach. You helped me make my point. JT3 if he wants to be great needs to land kids like Otto Von Biz. He is not an oh well we tried recruit he is a must have. Talent and using that talent correctly is the name of the game. Misery has a sorry coach that the fan base already hates. KU is too late and a 7 hr drive from his home. Gtown is in the best conference in Amerikkka, offers immediate PT and has had recent success putting front court players in the league. This kid is a must have and we should be the favorite since his father is so involved. Heed the word of Bronxitos.....................SISSYSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!! Ignore Bronxitos si lo quieres...no me importa. However you must overstand I speak the truth to the young black and white youth. Attack Bronxitos on something he said that you take umbrage with. When has he been wrong? I am not wrong about what ails us because it is as obvious as hades. JT3 after years of thinking he was recruiting at Princeton sees now what I have been saying for 3 years. Systems do not win games.....players do. There is a reason that the Twolves' triangle does not succeed like the Lakers triangle. Who are you, Editeding Yoda? Speak English. What a genius. The reason the Lakers are better than the Twolves are because they have better players? Wow. What insight. |
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Post by DownTownJoeyBrown on Apr 9, 2011 16:30:29 GMT -5
Is this thread on Otto or Kemba? How about we reserve this thread for actual updates on Otto and take the talk on Kemba, Calhoun and soccer elsewhere? Many Thanks.
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Post by LeRoyHoya on Apr 9, 2011 16:35:59 GMT -5
Agreed. I'm not expecting a verbal committment announcement today, but I could care less about Kemba Walker. How about actual updates on Mr. Porter.
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Post by BubbleVisionBiff on Apr 9, 2011 17:55:30 GMT -5
Agreed. I'm not expecting a verbal committment announcement today, but I could care less about Kemba Walker. How about actual updates on Mr. Porter. We have to catch latavious somehow! |
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Post by sleepy on Apr 9, 2011 18:15:06 GMT -5
Agreed. I'm not expecting a verbal committment announcement today, but I could care less about Kemba Walker. How about actual updates on Mr. Porter. We have to catch latavious somehow! The only sane post on this thread today. |
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Post by NorthCarolinaHOYA on Apr 9, 2011 21:57:31 GMT -5
Did see Otto at the wizards tonight game with Markel and some of the other players. Saw coach Thompson but he was sitting at the end of the row
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Post by DanMcQ on Apr 10, 2011 2:50:36 GMT -5
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Post by swhoya on Apr 10, 2011 2:55:47 GMT -5
I'm curious how he would fit in with Whittington (and I'd guess he's asking himself the same question)?
From what I can read, they sound like much the same player, with Whittington have perhaps a longer range.
I'm always a bit cautious about big guys coming in from nowhere. Is he going to be able to board when the opposing players are just as big and are used to playing more physical than he's seen? Or is it going to be a work in progress?
I don't know much about either; it just looks to me like they're the same body type and with similar games.
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