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Post by gtowndynasty on Aug 16, 2010 10:48:08 GMT -5
One time Hoya target Lance Stephenson's nba career may be over before it even begins... www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2010/08/15/2010-08-15_lance_stephenson_indiana_pacers_nba_player_arrested_for_pushing_his_girlfriend_d.htmlSince he did sign a contract, I am not sure how this thing will play out. It would seem that Indiana, who was already weary of his off the court antics and persona will be very unsure considering this question mark kid couldnt even make it through the summer without drama. His contract is very small relatively speaking and im wondering if they will just try and void it or pay him off if they want to wash their hands of him. Feel bad for the kid as trouble seems to follow him and he has jeopardized his career before he plays one game... Crazy baby mama??
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Post by GUHoya07 on Aug 16, 2010 10:56:45 GMT -5
I think its absurd that you're making him sound like a victim. He pushed a woman down a flight of stairs, this wasn't some accident that he just happened to be a part of. Lance has brought this upon himself and it's hard to feel any sorrow for someone who now has a history of abusing women.
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Post by gtowndynasty on Aug 16, 2010 11:18:23 GMT -5
I think its absurd that you're making him sound like a victim. He pushed a woman down a flight of stairs, this wasn't some accident that he just happened to be a part of. Lance has brought this upon himself and it's hard to feel any sorrow for someone who now has a history of abusing women. Dude...are you joking? Were you were there? I am not making him sound like a victim because I dont know what happened. Oh and neither do you. I said it was sad that a guy who worked hard on his craft and had placed himself in position to benefit from that hard work finds himself mixed with drama again. I never pass judgment on someone getting arrested because as the facts come out you will see they sometimes differ from arresting docs. And also, maybe you have never seen a crazy, spiteful woman at work, but these things happen more often than one might think. As a lawyer, I have seen it. He may be a victim, he may not. If it wasnt clear before, maybe that will help you. oh and fwiw, i think you are absurd based on your misinterpretation of my post, in which I never said he was a victim.
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Post by kchoya on Aug 16, 2010 11:25:14 GMT -5
I think its absurd that you're making him sound like a victim. He pushed a woman down a flight of stairs, this wasn't some accident that he just happened to be a part of. Lance has brought this upon himself and it's hard to feel any sorrow for someone who now has a history of abusing women. Dude...are you joking? Were you were there? I am not making him sound like a victim because I dont know what happened. Oh and neither do you. I said it was sad that a guy who worked hard on his craft and had placed himself in position to benefit from that hard work finds himself mixed with drama again. I never pass judgment on someone getting arrested because as the facts come out you will see they sometimes differ from arresting docs. And also, maybe you have never seen a crazy, spiteful woman at work, but these things happen more often than one might think. As a lawyer, I have seen it. He may be a victim, he may not. If it wasnt clear before, maybe that will help you. oh and fwiw, i think you are absurd based on your misinterpretation of my post, in which I never said he was a victim. Maybe it was the part where you said "Feel bad for the kid as trouble seems to follow him[.]" You were probably a big fan of Lawrence Phillips too.
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Post by nathanhm on Aug 16, 2010 11:27:20 GMT -5
gtowndynasty, you may have not meant to victimize him but it sure sounded like that. Pushing a woman down a flight of stairs is dangerous and cowardly. He's a 6'5 athlete, he needs to learn how to settle disputes other than with his hands. He had a great opportunity and it looks like he blew it.
And yes I agree that many times the story that comes out is different from what actually happened, but when its a violent confrontation between a man and a woman, I'm siding with the woman. If she is truly crazy, then the guy needs to leave the situation, not make it violent.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Aug 16, 2010 11:28:14 GMT -5
Pro & College Sports?
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Post by gtowndynasty on Aug 16, 2010 11:39:12 GMT -5
Dude...are you joking? Were you were there? I am not making him sound like a victim because I dont know what happened. Oh and neither do you. I said it was sad that a guy who worked hard on his craft and had placed himself in position to benefit from that hard work finds himself mixed with drama again. I never pass judgment on someone getting arrested because as the facts come out you will see they sometimes differ from arresting docs. And also, maybe you have never seen a crazy, spiteful woman at work, but these things happen more often than one might think. As a lawyer, I have seen it. He may be a victim, he may not. If it wasnt clear before, maybe that will help you. oh and fwiw, i think you are absurd based on your misinterpretation of my post, in which I never said he was a victim. Maybe it was the part where you said "Feel bad for the kid as trouble seems to follow him[.]" You were probably a big fan of Lawrence Phillips too. So feeling bad for someone means you think they are victims. I said trouble follows him, not that he is innocent. I dont know if he is. All i know is I feel bad for him. If he pushed the woman down the stairs as it is alleged, i still feel bad because there is something wrong with him. If it happened as alleged, i also feel sorry for the woman and the child they share together. Yall cats are hilarious. You take a somewhat vague statement, and just apply your whacky interpretations to it and put them forth like they are fact. Ambassador, I probably should have started this thread there. Im sure it will get moved, but as a past target I placed it here.
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Post by kchoya on Aug 16, 2010 11:42:51 GMT -5
Tell Frank and Deano hello for me.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Aug 16, 2010 11:46:06 GMT -5
If Dan does not fix it, Kirby will.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Aug 16, 2010 11:56:56 GMT -5
Whew! I thought this was about Lance Armstrong and wondering what it was doing on this board.
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Post by FromTheBeginning on Aug 16, 2010 12:15:34 GMT -5
Too bad he didn't have his documentary film crew around like he did in high school - he would have been able to clear this up in a minute. Yeah - I really feel sorry for him.
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Post by SirSaxa on Aug 16, 2010 12:35:13 GMT -5
Looking back, it appears JT3 made a good decision when he declined to pursue Lance for GU.
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Post by Elvado on Aug 16, 2010 12:39:47 GMT -5
apparently, Born Ready was also born stupid.
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Post by tashoya on Aug 16, 2010 12:58:54 GMT -5
Careful Elvado. Lots of attorneys here. You have no proof of his level of intelligence at the time of his birth nor can you distinguish it from his acquired (alleged) stupidity.
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Post by prhoya on Aug 16, 2010 13:04:32 GMT -5
Wasted talent...
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Post by FormerHoya on Aug 16, 2010 14:38:37 GMT -5
Tell Frank and Deano hello for me. I think it was misspelled. lolcats are hilarious. Agreed.
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Post by SirSaxa on Aug 16, 2010 15:44:22 GMT -5
More on Lance. Gosh.... trouble really does seem to "follow him around". Seems after the 6'5, 210 lb world class athlete pushed his girlfriend down a flight of stairs, that darn "crazy baby mama" tricked him into "grabbing her head and smashing it on the bottom stair." Gosh, who wouldn't feel badly for the poor basketball star. Lance Stephenson arrest detailedExcerpt Indiana Pacers draft pick Lance Stephenson, after pushing his girlfriend down a flight of stairs, grabbed her and hit her head on the bottom step, prosecutors said Monday. ... Authorities say the confrontation occurred around 5 a.m. Sunday when the victim, Jasmine Williams, was returning home to her apartment building with two friends. Witnesses said Stephenson was waiting for her and yelled, "Are you kidding me?" before pushing her down the stairs.
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Post by gtowndynasty on Aug 16, 2010 16:08:19 GMT -5
More on Lance. Gosh.... trouble really does seem to "follow him around". Seems after the 6'5, 210 lb world class athlete pushed his girlfriend down a flight of stairs, that darn "crazy baby mama" tricked him into "grabbing her head and smashing it on the bottom stair." Gosh, who wouldn't feel badly for the poor basketball star. Lance Stephenson arrest detailedExcerpt Indiana Pacers draft pick Lance Stephenson, after pushing his girlfriend down a flight of stairs, grabbed her and hit her head on the bottom step, prosecutors said Monday. ... Authorities say the confrontation occurred around 5 a.m. Sunday when the victim, Jasmine Williams, was returning home to her apartment building with two friends. Witnesses said Stephenson was waiting for her and yelled, "Are you kidding me?" before pushing her down the stairs.
Holier than thou... You believe everything you read? Even though it comes from people you dont know? Let the facts come out and the judicial process take its place. I swear people on this board are perfect as they sit above society and just throw rocks at others. With all the false arrests, police brutality, inaccurate reporting that takes place, you would think scholars as smart a gtown alum would know to reserve judgment. In a perfect world i guess. But then again, he didnt commit here so screw him, and dashonte, and rakeem, and all others who hoyatalk board members di**rode until they decided to go elsewhere... Like I said, yall cats are hilarious.
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Post by SirSaxa on Aug 16, 2010 16:30:41 GMT -5
dynasty, are you suggesting the girl threw herself down the stairs?
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Post by gtowndynasty on Aug 16, 2010 16:41:58 GMT -5
dynasty, are you suggesting the girl threw herself down the stairs? Saxa, Im saying I dont know. If you have followed Lance and his many issues/character flaws at all, it is well documented that he has a child with a woman who some consider to be volatile. Not saying she did this to herself, not saying she didnt, but stranger things have happened. What I do know is the police react very fast on issues of domestic abuse, as they should, but with that they are at times wrong. I also know that there have been instances where women have put bruises on themselves or had someone else do it to implicate a boyfriend or ex for whatever reason. Again, I do not know what happened and because I dont know I will save my criticism of him until it is justified. Im not really addressing you personally, but the whole board seems so ready to crucify the kid and I know for a fact if he came to GTown folks would be reacting the same way they are on the Cincy boards-taking a wait and see approach. When III was at the Team USA tryouts I remember board members praising his ability and work ethic and excusing some of his past run ins as immaturity, but now he is an awful person. Why?
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