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Post by JS on Jun 6, 2010 19:46:48 GMT -5
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Post by hoyarooter on Jun 7, 2010 20:35:36 GMT -5
Perhaps they used Walton because he was a great passer. ;D
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Post by HeartAttackHoya on Jun 8, 2010 11:26:08 GMT -5
Perhaps they used Walton because he was a great passer. ;D that's genius!
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Post by hoyarooter on Jun 8, 2010 12:05:35 GMT -5
Perhaps they used Walton because he was a great passer. ;D that's genius! Thank you. I take my compliments however and wherever I can get them, no matter how they might be meant.
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Post by kchoya on Jun 8, 2010 12:34:51 GMT -5
From espn.com: A number of old school GMs remain dismissive when it comes to using stats to evaluate draft prospects, but more and more NBA teams are employing stat gurus to develop formulas that can predict pro success. Some of them run teams, like the Houston Rockets' Daryl Morey. Others, like Dean Oliver of the Nuggets, have been key consultants for years. And a handful of other teams are getting into the stat game for the first time. Teams are using everything from projected PER (player efficiency rating), WARP (wins over replacement player), EWA (estimated wins added) and all sorts of variations and compilations of formulas to project NBA success. Every team has their own system and they rarely produce exactly the same results. [...] Draft prospects as ranked by our three stat-head GMs. Rank - Player - Team1 DeMarcus Cousins Kentucky 2. Derrick Favors Georgia Tech 3. Evan Turner Ohio State 4. Greg Monroe Georgetown This group matches up closely with Hollinger's findings and is even more in line with the top 10 on our Big Board. Each team had an outlier that the other two teams didn't rank as highly. One team had Cole Aldrich ranked in the top five. Another had Manny Harris and Gordon Hayward in the top 10. There are a few other things to note. The first is that, by statistical measurements at least, it looks like Greg Monroe should be going higher than No. 9 -- where we have him projected in our mock draft right now. The same holds true for Henry, who we currently have at No. 15. The love also keeps on coming for Luke Babbitt, who I believe is now seriously in the discussion for Utah at No. 9. insider.espn.go.com/nba/blog?name=nba_draft&id=5263560
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Post by kchoya on Jun 8, 2010 12:39:48 GMT -5
More from espn.com insider.espn.go.com/nba/blog?name=nba_draft&id=5260049sports.espn.go.com/espn/gallery/enlargePhoto?id=5260223&story=5260049The Utah Jazz historically don't do a lot of workouts, often targeting a few players in their draft range and then selecting from that group. But when they do workouts, they do them right. Over the past few days, they've examined some of the best prospects in the draft. On Friday, they brought in Georgetown big man Greg Monroe for a solo workout. Monroe's agent, David Falk, will let Monroe work out against only Cousins or Favors. Since neither player is projected to be available at No. 9, Monroe went at it alone in Utah. On Sunday, the Jazz brought in Gordon Hayward, Luke Babbitt, Xavier Henry and Al-Farouq Aminu for a head-to-head workout of the four best swingmen in Utah's draft range. The Jazz don't have any other high-profile workouts scheduled. Glean from that what you will, but I think it's safe to say those are the five prospects the Jazz are considering at No. 9. Monroe fits a big need if Carlos Boozer leaves this summer. Henry, Babbitt, Hayward and Aminu all fill a void left by Kyle Korver hitting free agency. From the sound of things, Monroe is still atop the Jazz's list. But it seems like Babbitt is strongly in the running, too. The Jazz have been higher on Babbitt than most all year. The rest of the league is playing catch-up to what Utah was saying in January.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Jun 8, 2010 13:24:11 GMT -5
He's worked out for teams 5 and 9 I hope teams 6,7, and 8 at least do their research and bring him in for a work out. I'd like for teams 3 and 4 to work him out as well, but they're less critical.
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Post by damnhoya on Jun 9, 2010 12:51:40 GMT -5
Monroe up to #5 in latest mock draft (to Sacramento):
"Analysis: Last year it took us until the day of the draft to nail this pick for the Kings and I have a feeling it's going that direction again this year.
I don't have a good feel for which way the Kings are leaning. That's partly because the Kings play things close to the vest. It's also because there is no consensus player at No. 5. On talent, it's DeMarcus Cousins all the way if he's still available. But Cousins makes some teams wary, and I'm told the Kings are among those teams that, for the moment, are unsure.
That leads us to Monroe. He has the talent and size to be a legit NBA center. He's the best passer in the draft and is offensively gifted. He takes games off on occasion and lacks a killer instinct, but the talent is there.
The fact that a number of veteran NBA GMs have compared him to Vlade Divac shouldn't hurt."
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Post by hoyaboya on Jun 11, 2010 9:21:10 GMT -5
Monroe goes 5 to Sacramento...the Carrill-JTIII connection makes it happen.
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Post by hoyas big supporter on Jun 13, 2010 9:27:55 GMT -5
www.draftexpress.com/profile/Greg-Monroe-1109/all of the articles at the bottom make me think of what happened to greg's game. were the scouts just stupid before or did greg change his game completely? they mention him as a "freak athlete" and that he is very quick of his feet to block shots a a favorite to be seleted first overall in the 2009 draft among other things haha
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Post by hoyas big supporter on Jun 13, 2010 9:34:35 GMT -5
it just makes you wonder what scouts are being paid for..
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Jun 13, 2010 12:48:57 GMT -5
Monroe goes 5 to Sacramento...the Carrill-JTIII connection makes it happen. It is not just Carrill. Note where the GM of Sacramento went to school.
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Post by lichoya68 on Jun 13, 2010 18:35:57 GMT -5
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Post by SirSaxa on Jun 13, 2010 19:00:11 GMT -5
ok im dumb and im sure its in here somewhere but is the draft this TUES NITE june 15th please let me know again if thats it sorry go hoyas GO GREG BEST OF LUCK heard he was eating with jeff the other day GOOD HOYAS ONE AND ALL go hoyas JUNE 24 Lic
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Post by lichoya68 on Jun 14, 2010 6:55:38 GMT -5
thanks i thought it was june 15th ill wait some more go hoyas go greg ;D ;D
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Jun 14, 2010 11:49:37 GMT -5
Monroe will work out for the nets on the 16th. once again alone.
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Post by kchoya on Jun 14, 2010 18:17:05 GMT -5
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Post by SirSaxa on Jun 14, 2010 18:35:21 GMT -5
I don't know where Greg is going, but whomever gets him will be getting a GREAT team player and a terrific person. Jeff went #5 and no one had predicted that one.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Jun 15, 2010 10:17:42 GMT -5
that's surprising because the word before was that greg would only work out against cousins for favors. but perhaps it will be like the cousins favors work outs where they work out at the same time but not actually against each other. I think greg would show well against udoh who has limited offensive game.
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