damnhoya
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Post by damnhoya on May 18, 2010 20:12:42 GMT -5
Here's the order:
1. Wizards 2. 76ers 3. Nets 4. Wolves 5. Kings 6. Warriors 7. Pistons 8. Clippers 9. Jazz 10. Pacers 11. Hornets 12. Grizzlies 13. Raptors 14. Rockets
I'm not really sure what team will pick him before the Jazz at 9. He could fit in for one of those top 3 teams but I don't see him going that high. Unless Kahn rolls the dice again...
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on May 18, 2010 20:27:15 GMT -5
Wall is going #1, and Greg likely won't go before Evan Turner or Cousins, though I suppose there could be upsets. After that, who knows?
Wolves are set at PF, at least as much as they can be set. Kings seemingly were set there, but their young front line could have been better. A Webber-alike out in Sactown?
Depending on who is there, I could see Warriors at #6 being very likely. Pistons could tag him as well. The Clippers won't.
I'd love to see the Jazz, because I think he'll flourish on a winning team, although he's not ready for the pick and roll yet. Any of those teams from there on could use him.
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superan
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Post by superan on May 18, 2010 22:40:57 GMT -5
Jazz @ #9 would be a good situation for him
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royski
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Post by royski on May 19, 2010 2:34:33 GMT -5
He's a good fit for the Jazz, especially if Boozer leaves. I think that's probably where he'll go. Would love to see OKC make a move to grab him, but that's probably wishful thinking.
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SSHoya
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Post by SSHoya on May 19, 2010 7:14:09 GMT -5
I think Bilas had him as a #6 pick last nite, prior to the lottery.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on May 19, 2010 7:18:13 GMT -5
pretty much any where between 5-10
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Post by lichoya68 on May 19, 2010 7:57:04 GMT -5
jazz pacers with roy or honrnets is my prediction but i aint good at predicting nothing go hoyas good luck greg ;D ;D in his tweet greg thinks jwall going to the wiz we will see
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Post by bmartin on May 19, 2010 11:57:13 GMT -5
Some teams will value him more than others so he is a likely candidate for a draft day trade up. Hornets should trade up for him.
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skyhoya
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Post by skyhoya on May 19, 2010 12:29:19 GMT -5
Roy went # 17 two years ago and Jeff went #5 three years ago. Both players were more NBA ready than Greg is right now. Thasbet went #2 last year and is now in the D league. I just don't see Greg going in the top 10, but I could be wrong. It's hard for me to believe a team would tie up $6M over three years for someone who is not physically ready.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on May 19, 2010 12:39:45 GMT -5
yet you just pointed out that the Grizzlies did it just last year? Greg will got top ten easily. Who out there is definitely a better pro then greg? Wall and what maybe turner. That's the list of people in the draft definitely better than greg. Anyone who takes ed davis or that ilk instead of greg is going to end up regretting it.
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Post by hoyawatcher on May 19, 2010 12:45:21 GMT -5
Sky- the NBA routinely drafts kids who are not physically developed in the top 10 all the time. In fact in the top 5 all the time. Part of the "joy" of drafting one and done players who generally are not going to be physically mature. In fact this year most mocks have Greg and Ed Davis about the same spot in the draft and I would contend that Greg is a lot more physically mature than Davis. A the other end of the spectrum a team looking for a PF could draft Gani Lawal out of GT who is a physical beast but has a much more limited upside than Greg. Teams are quite happy to take Greg, tie him up for 3 years and help him develop. Or figure they only had $6 M tied up in him if he flames out.
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skyhoya
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Post by skyhoya on May 19, 2010 12:50:44 GMT -5
hoyawatcher, not disputing your logic, just had to point out the other side, watched the NFL draft the last two years and highly hyped players fell out of the first round. Not sure the NBA is the same, there is only 60 draft picks. DaJuan went 35 last year, could have gone 16th, just depends who needs what.
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chep3
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Post by chep3 on May 19, 2010 13:26:38 GMT -5
I'd bet large amounts of money that Greg goes in the top 10. Now if only I had large amounts of money to bet.
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Post by hoyawatcher on May 19, 2010 13:28:11 GMT -5
DaJuan is probably a bad example as he fell because of his physical condition - the perception that his knees will not hold up to the rigors of the NBA season. The NFL has at least 3 years of college data on all of their prospects and can draft on performance plus upside. The top end of the NBA draft is mostly 1 year of data and is almost exclusively on perceived upside. I think the perception of Greg right now is his upside is not Favors or Cousins level but arguably as high as any other PF. Beyond that I think he fits with what the Jazz do right now more than anyone else. Though most of the league does run a pick and pop game with PFs that he would fit well with. I think he will be gone either before or at the Jazz pick and would be surprised if he drops more than that.
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Post by kchoya on May 19, 2010 13:53:46 GMT -5
DaJuan is probably a bad example as he fell because of his physical condition - the perception that his knees will not hold up to the rigors of the NBA season. The NFL has at least 3 years of college data on all of their prospects and can draft on performance plus upside. The top end of the NBA draft is mostly 1 year of data and is almost exclusively on perceived upside. I think the perception of Greg right now is his upside is not Favors or Cousins level but arguably as high as any other PF. Beyond that I think he fits with what the Jazz do right now more than anyone else. Though most of the league does run a pick and pop game with PFs that he would fit well with. I think he will be gone either before or at the Jazz pick and would be surprised if he drops more than that. I didn't know there were concerns about Summers's knees. He didn't have any problems at Georgetown that I remember.
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Post by hoyawatcher on May 19, 2010 14:03:57 GMT -5
My bad - I was referring to DeJuan Blair. Should keep my DeJuans separate from my DaJuans.
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mrsixer123
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Post by mrsixer123 on May 19, 2010 14:52:20 GMT -5
if he goes to philly he will be mentally destroyed by the end of year two. Greg is simply not built for philly. utah is a pefect fit socially, but can he handle coach sloan?
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skyhoya
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Post by skyhoya on May 19, 2010 15:18:52 GMT -5
Who know what will happen between now and draft day, Jeff was picked by Boston and traded for part of their missing pieces to be a championship team.
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Post by kchoya on May 19, 2010 15:45:06 GMT -5
if he goes to philly he will be mentally destroyed by the end of year two. Greg is simply not built for philly. utah is a pefect fit socially, but can he handle coach sloan? Only "true" hoyas can handle playing in Philly.
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Post by nashvillehoyas on May 19, 2010 18:59:30 GMT -5
Like Monroe alot and wish he was still a Hoya. I don't see him being drafted before Cousins. As good as Cousins is, he have a lot more up side. Will be a dominant force as he mature and develope more skills. Wall or Turner, it's a pickum.
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