SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Apr 27, 2010 10:23:53 GMT -5
One can evaluate a coach for his effectiveness for the complete process. That includes who they recruit, what they do with what they inherit and how they develop the talent. Weis had a great start at ND with primarily the previous coach's recruit's. He then recruited some the top recruiting classes on paper, only to have little success. Recruiting turns out to be about 50% of the game, what you do with it is the other 50%. But this thread is merely evaluating the PLAYERS -- it started when Greg left to place him somewhere in the ranking of III-era players. We're just using III as a reference point to limit the subset of players -- not evaluating a coach. We also get it. You have an agenda. Next.
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skyhoya
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Post by skyhoya on Apr 27, 2010 10:28:23 GMT -5
No agenda, different view
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TBird41
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Post by TBird41 on Apr 27, 2010 11:25:59 GMT -5
Then again, the number of people ranking Roy Hibbert anywhere but #1 or #2 is driving me nuts as well. Me too. John Wallace was good. John Wallace was never the best player on the team, the focal point of the team or anything but a very good secondary player. He ran the offense well, when he wasn't being self-internally jealous ( ;D) and not passing the ball into the post. Additionally, I can't think of a single game off the top of my head that he was secondary dominate (not sure that's the best term, but I'm thinking of games like Ashanti's against OSU in the NCAAs, where maybe Roy was more dominate, but Ashanti was a close second).
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skyhoya
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Post by skyhoya on Apr 27, 2010 12:09:51 GMT -5
JWALL, was the man at Marquette in the OT game.
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