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Post by afalcon10 on Mar 21, 2010 15:06:20 GMT -5
Hes returning. he said so.
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Post by bronxhoya87 on Mar 21, 2010 15:29:44 GMT -5
I am with you sir. I am want Broadus back. Norm....not sure what he does well. I am just telling you what these proud Gtown alums will say.
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Post by hoya81 on Mar 21, 2010 17:03:26 GMT -5
Yeah. What's wrong with the alumni, anyway? Who cares if GU runs a clean program? They ought to be running the kind of program that a couple of trolls, who've never coached or played a minute of bball, are sure will win us a national championship.
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Post by afalcon10 on Mar 21, 2010 17:08:08 GMT -5
We just need these players to care about winning again.
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Post by hoya81 on Mar 21, 2010 17:10:37 GMT -5
Winning and having integrity aren't mutually exclusive. Most people are taught that by the time they're seven.
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Post by gohoyas408 on Mar 21, 2010 17:36:13 GMT -5
Running a clean program always comes first. That's why Kentucky and Calipari are so hated.
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Post by afalcon10 on Mar 21, 2010 17:48:12 GMT -5
Yep, running a clean program then winning THEN looking good doing it
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Mar 22, 2010 13:33:24 GMT -5
Greg has until April 25th to declare for the NBA draft. He also only has until May 8th to withdraw from the NBA draft.
I'm an optimist so I think Greg is coming back because I don't think he wants to end his college career like that. He's always talked about how much he wants to be part of a great college team and he's yet to do that. He was a part of a good college team this year. I think he sticks around to make next year great.
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Post by RDF on Mar 22, 2010 15:06:01 GMT -5
Not saying Greg is leaving but he also said that "It didn't matter what type of team we had coming back" when explaining his decision to return last year to Sporting News.
Sadly, that is how a lot of people think, and honestly, the 39-26 record and (3-4 postseason) in his two years at Georgetown might reflect that the most.
If that's how you want to go out--then best you leave because the program has to get back on right track and focused on winning games.
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Post by 757hoyafan on Mar 22, 2010 15:17:59 GMT -5
Yeah, shame on him for thinking about HIS future. He is one selfish&^%(*&^^---considering he simply could have left after last year & collected a check...
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Post by RDF on Mar 22, 2010 16:34:53 GMT -5
Yeah, shame on him for thinking about HIS future. He is one selfish&^%(*&^^---considering he simply could have left after last year & collected a check... Greg can do what he wants--but when a player is quoted as saying the "type of team returning doesn't matter"--that tells you the importance of winning in the decision making process. Point being--you really think Monroe gives a rats ass about whether or not Georgetown could be a contending team next year? It's about whether he feels he's ready to play in the NBA--be it correct/incorrect. So it comes down to whether he'd rather sit on a bench a lot and get sporadic playing time--but have a nice paycheck as a bottom of lottery type player, or try to improve his game/status and climb up draft boards--while doing so on what COULD be a contending team. Then again--Cuse lost a bunch of "great talent" and they are a better team this year, so who the hell knows?
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Post by wahoohoya on Mar 22, 2010 16:46:18 GMT -5
It should ultimately come down to what's best for his long-term career. And I happen to think that means he should stay another year or two and become the dominant player he can be (mentally and physically) before making the jump. With that said, I'm sure the fact that this team would be a title contender next year and seems to enjoy playing with each other will play some role in his decision, but we shouldn't expect for it to be a huge part of his decision process. That doesn't mean he doesn't care about winning. All indications would say he does care.
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Post by hoya9797 on Mar 22, 2010 16:58:12 GMT -5
Gtown would never think about cheating or even cheat. I hope that's true. This alumnus would immediately stop supporting the basketball team if we ever hired a John Calipari type. Basketball wins just aren't that important.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Mar 22, 2010 17:03:05 GMT -5
RDF do you still have that article?
My optimistic(naive) assumption would be that the type of team we had coming back didn't play into his decision to come back the first time because the major consideration eliminated thoughts of the NBA before he needed to weigh all the parts of the equation. If he had thought ok I could go pro, i'm sure he'd then consider how good the team would be, whether he'd miss school, and all those other things. But since he wasn't ready in the first place the type of team didn't have anything to do with the decision.
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Post by wahoohoya on Mar 22, 2010 17:13:01 GMT -5
Right - that quote doesn't necessarily say anything about Greg's desire to win or to be a part of a winning team. You can't read into it that way and say he doesn't give a rat's ass about the team's prospects. I take it to mean he just planned to come back regardless of the situation because he needed to. Nothing wrong with that.
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Post by tgo on Mar 22, 2010 17:13:25 GMT -5
Forgive me if this was covered earlier and i missed it. i saw it touched on but my questions remain so since i know nothing about the nba i would like someone to explain it to me like I'm a 4 year old: what implications does the pending labor strife in the NBA have on the decision to enter the draft for Monroe and others in his shoes? would he be signed with a paycheck in hand before the lockout if he is drafted now? wasnt one of the major results of the last nba stopage that we ended up with lower paychecks for lottery picks right? does that mean that it isnt an issue this time around or will the cap for lottery picks be tightened?
can someone break it down for someone (me) who doesnt follow/know the issues in the nba right now and how they affect incoming players and free agents?
thanks in advance
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Post by redskins12820 on Mar 22, 2010 17:56:13 GMT -5
Right - that quote doesn't necessarily say anything about Greg's desire to win or to be a part of a winning team. You can't read into it that way and say he doesn't give a rat's ass about the team's prospects. I take it to mean he just planned to come back regardless of the situation because he needed to. Nothing wrong with that. Yeah RDF I don't have the article but just from the quote it seems like it could easily be taken out of context. I don't know why it would be bad if he said he wanted to come back even if we were supposed to be horrible. Or if he said he was enjoying college so much that it didn't matter if people declared early or transferred and that he was committed to the program. I think a player's decision to come back should be commended regardless of the team's prospects-I wouldn't want him declaring for the league just because he thought we were going to suck
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Post by tashoya on Mar 22, 2010 19:12:34 GMT -5
Man I hate when players want to come back to school and focus on improving their game. Awful.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Mar 23, 2010 10:53:30 GMT -5
Is it just me or does it make a lot of sense to come back next year just based on the other big men competition this year?
This years mock lottery has: Favors, Cousins, aldrich, Aminu, and Davis all going above greg, plus Vessley, whiteside, and Motiejunas asother bigs in the lottery. There are a lot of bigs in this draft.
Next year the only bigs in the lottery are: Perry jones(HS senior), Valnucias(some euro highschooler), C.J leslie(HS senior), Mason plumlee, Serpahin another euro
That competition is a lot thinner. Mason plumlee going 8th next year when greg is only predicted to be 9th in this years draft at best. Greg would be the first big taken in next years draft if he returned, IMO.
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Post by b52legend on Mar 23, 2010 12:14:01 GMT -5
With the advent of insurance policies, I think the risks of coming back are mitigated somewhat. Monroe's potential at the next level seems to be collateral enough for him to get some injury policy worth a couple million dollars. That is not equivalent to what he could make in the NBA, but it might be security enough to make him consider coming back if he thinks it will improve his long term earning potential. Additionally, he has just as good a chance of getting injured his first year in the pros as he does at the college level. Unlike say Greg Oden, I don't think there are huge advertising/endorsement dollars for Greg right now, so a lot of the calculus boils down to strictly salary money. Its quite possible coming back to play another year could improve his long term earning potential enough, when combined with the downside protection of an insurance policy, that it is actually in his financial interests to come back. Hopefully he sees it my way.
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