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Post by TC on Apr 7, 2010 9:30:52 GMT -5
We finally got confirmation that the Alternate reality matters and means something. Desmond is starting to see between the worlds. As are others. We've had confirmation of that ever since Juliet died and said it worked, they just haven't gone back to it since. Which they should have. If they had started Desmond's quest to wake up everyone on the manifest in episode 3 or 4 of this season, the sideways universe would have been a lot more palatable.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Apr 7, 2010 10:42:39 GMT -5
1) I think you're right about everyone being able to see through the world, I just think desmond is the one who sees it best obviously and is going to wake everyone up. I think all the looking in the mirrors has been a hint that everyone has an odd feeling that something isn't right.
2) yes we've had that clue that juliet said it worked, but we weren't entirely sure what that meant. The way lost works is there are clues and we can guess but until we have the whole picture at the end of the season we don't really totally know anything.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Apr 7, 2010 11:41:07 GMT -5
Desmond is obviously into it now, once he realized that he would have not have met Penny without the island's influence (or care for her so much or experience what Charlie was telling him). He sees what he has to do, whether it is from Widmore's or MIB's prompting.
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Post by jgalt on Apr 7, 2010 19:38:10 GMT -5
I think all these people just need to get a good therapist and learn to accept the life they have and stop looking for a life that doesnt exist.
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Post by Boz on Apr 13, 2010 21:06:53 GMT -5
LIBBY!!!
That is all.
(more later)
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Apr 13, 2010 22:49:10 GMT -5
Libby indeed!
We finally learned what the whispers were!
Desmond is on a mission in the alternate reality and on island. He's obviously not dead and clearly knows what he's doing. flocke was right to be suspicious since everyone saw him pushing desmond down the well coming a mile away.
Things are picking up!
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Post by TC on Apr 14, 2010 9:01:41 GMT -5
Bleah, what a down episode - I only give this one 5 large philanthropic donations out of 10. Desmond runs over Locke so Jack'll have to fix them. Transparent plot twist is transparent.
Both Justified and 30 for 30 were about 15,000,000X better.
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Post by jgalt on Apr 14, 2010 9:40:37 GMT -5
so how do you build a well if you dont have modern technology? Seems really dangerous to me. Do you just dig a hole and tie a rope to a tree when it gets too deep? but wont it fill with water? I guess i dont really understand how those old wells work; did real wells really look like that?
This was really my only take away from the episode. Also why did they have to do the little, hear a voice before you see a known character, thing with Micheal when they showed him in the Preview last week.
So I guess Desmond is the new Sayid, going around killing people, most likely on some sort of list.
I never thought I would say this, but the episode with Widmore have been the best. At least he seems to know what he is doing or at least wants to do. Hopefully he will just come out and try to F everything up because Flocke took desmond.
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Post by Boz on Apr 14, 2010 10:09:55 GMT -5
Hand digging a well -- ladders, shoring and lots of buckets & rope. Most wells will fill with water eventually, but you can dig in water. Plus, once you hit water, there's not a whole lot more digging to do. And this is the island well. There's no water down there.
I didn't find anything to dislike in last night's episode.
I actually have a theory that I put a fair amount of stock into. Not a theory about the show's plot, but about this season and fans in general. (This is not directed at you, TC, but to a number of Lost fans I've read on the tubes.) It's actually nothing ingenious, just simple Psychology 101. There has been so much complaining this season and while some of it is fair, some of it is really over the top. I think there are some addicted fans who are -- deliberately or subconsciously -- trying to distance themselves from this show. Lost is going to be gone soon and I think if people are find a reason to be angry, it is easier to separate themselves from it. Yes, I honestly believe this. People do it every day with other aspects of life, particularly with relationships, so why not with a TV show, especially one that has such a rabid following as this one.
Me? I have no problem with living in the moment.
I think I am going to e-mail the WP girls about this today. They're going to be going through some serious withdrawal later this summer.
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Post by kchoya on Apr 14, 2010 10:33:20 GMT -5
Bleah, what a down episode - I only give this one 5 large philanthropic donations out of 10. Desmond runs over Locke so Jack'll have to fix them. Transparent plot twist is transparent. Both Justified and 30 for 30 were about 15,000,000X better. Glad to see someone else has latched on to Justified as well. Not commenting on the whole episode, but I think Terry O'Quinn's facial expressions are the greatest. The little shift to a wry smile, and then to pure evil right before tossing Baby Jessica Desmond down the well was great. And the look he had when he saw Jack was great.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Apr 14, 2010 11:10:44 GMT -5
Poor Desmond: drugged, shot through with a great deal of EM radiation, and then thrown down a well. No wonder he felt the urge to run over Locke, as sideways and on-island lives are merging.
Did I hear whisperings of Charlie and the Chocolate factory in the previews? Will Charlie play a key role?
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Post by Boz on Apr 14, 2010 11:22:23 GMT -5
That Gene Wilder song is just about the creepiest thing ever.
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Post by TC on Apr 14, 2010 11:36:30 GMT -5
So I guess Desmond is the new Sayid, going around killing people, most likely on some sort of list. I think quite the opposite - Desmond is the new Jacob - I doubt his intent is to kill Locke, but to injure him so that he has to be fixed by Jack, thus waking up both Locke and Jack. He's shuffling pieces in the alternate universe, manipulating Hurley into going out with crazy Libby. And Boz, I dislike this season because it doesn't seem thought out at all. I sat there last night yelling at Richard ("WTF!") when he seems to not think you can blow up a plane without dynamite. Really Richard, you can't just create a lead to the fuel tank and light it? They blow up Ilana with no for really no reason at all, and they give the most knock-your-head-over answer possible about the whispers? Not liking this season has a lot more to do with the expectations set because this will be the last episode than some defensive fan mechanism to protect against losing Lost.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Apr 14, 2010 13:34:52 GMT -5
I think a lot of people are getting upset at answers, like what the whispers were and how the black rock got in the middle of the island because we've had so long to speculate about them, that people were bound to guess what was really up eventually. So people are upset that some of lost's answers aren't something they haven't thought of yet.
I loved last night's episode and have loved this season.
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Post by vcjack on Apr 14, 2010 18:06:39 GMT -5
What are people talking about that episode was awesome. We needed someone to get killed off and that was a spectacular exit.
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Post by Boz on Apr 14, 2010 18:14:16 GMT -5
What are people talking about that episode was awesome. We needed someone to get killed off and that was a spectacular exit. Yes, except that it's virtually certain that neither Island Desmond nor Sideways Locke are actually dead. (Or were you talking about Ilana? That was a nice exit, and only slightly compromised by the fact that someone else also went out that way.) But I do think it was a great episode.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Apr 14, 2010 18:22:46 GMT -5
I loved jack's line last night: "maybe she died to show us that dynamite is too dangerous to use"
as another thing to tide us over to next week.
Next week's episode is called: The Last Recruit.
To whom does this refer and who will this episode center around?
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Post by jgalt on Apr 14, 2010 21:54:51 GMT -5
They showed in the preview that the well is only like 20 feet down and that Desmond at least appeared to be alive and someone finds him.
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Post by Buckets on Apr 15, 2010 1:12:36 GMT -5
If I had to guess for next week: Flocke knocking Desmond into the well renders him temporarily unconscious, which is what allowed Sideways Desmond to run into Sideways Locke. I'm wondering if they make this explicit. Depending on what happens with the sideways universe, there could be something about Flocke cursing himself by allowing Desmond to go unconscious on the island and regain consciousness in the Sideways universe. Depending on the consequences on the island of SW Jack and SW Locke's (presumed) interaction, I think this could be interesting.
SW Jack and SW Locke realize they know each other. What exactly this means for Jack is anyone's guess, but SW Locke realizes that in some alternate world his coworker Linus choked him to death. It will be interesting to see if SW Locke can recall any of the things that Flocke has done while he's been assuming Locke's form.
As for the last recruit... beats the heck outta me. There's some extremely quick Sideways recruiting going on if the next episode is about the last recruit. On-Island, Flocke doesn't need Richard, Ben, or Miles; Jin would make sense but thankfully we just had a Jin-centric episode and hopefully will never have one again. So I'm stumped.
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Post by Boz on Apr 20, 2010 21:07:37 GMT -5
Well, as I have been one of the biggest defenders of the episodes this season while a lot of others have been disappointed, I'll be the first to say that this episode was a total drag.
(I don't mean that in the 70s slang sense, I just mean it dragged and dragged and dragged.)
Hell, even the Sun-Jin reunion had about zero emotional resonance to it. I was more moved when Sawyer found Jin in the jungle last season.
Of course, I'm willing to acknowledge that it was a 100% set-up episode and I can let it slide, but other than that, it didn't have much going for it.
Oh well. I think it'll pick back p from here on out.
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