OFFICIAL LOST SEASON 6 THREAD

[jgalt]

I can kind of see where people are coming from with that opinion. The whole wave thing felt like a cop out, especially with it being responsible for knocking down the statue also. Those two things just seemed to be tacked in there to tie up loose ends (plus that wave would have had to be like 500 feet high and would have destroyed the forest too).

But i think the idea of complaining about the answers you get is very annoying. You wanted answers, you got them; sorry you dont like those answers. reminds me of "you cant handle (the banal) truth"

It seems to me that most of you guys still watching are watching just to finish up the show you have dedicated a lot of time to and are hoping to see some cool/original answers. But i get the feeling that there are still some people who are watching looking for some greater meaning that will blow their mind. I dont think that is fair to the show and is a little irrational.

[richfame]

I just think the shows go by so quickly. It seems that your half way threw the show and not much has happened.

1. Take the saidways universe, yeah after 3 or 4 episodes, we goet it everyone is linked some way.
2. Last weeks episode, seemed that we were half way threw the episode till it started to get interesting.

[HoyaSinceBirth]

Yeah desmond's back!

crazy alternate time line

Last of the set up episodes i'm thinking.

Wat has come to the island!

[mchoya]

After the high of last week's episode, Lost continues its pattern of "Great episode followed by terrible episode." There are eight episodes left, numerous mysteries left unexplored, and Sun forgets how to speak English? What a lazy plot device by the writers (though if it takes the focus off Jin and Tonic for the rest of the season, I can live with that).

[Boz]

I have to say, I really had no idea what the whole point of that "Sun bonks her head, forgets English -- but only spoken English, not heard English or written English" plot device was.

That was straight out of "As The World Turns" or "All My Circuits."


Other than that (but that's a big one) I didn't think it was a lousy episode at all. I enjoyed it.

Except for the very large and garish Red "V" that was at the bottom of the screen for the whole episode, and blocked a lot of what Sun wrote on her little notepad.

But I can't blame "Lost" for that. That one's squarely on ABC.

[TC]

I gave this episode 5 kidnapped and drugged son-in-laws out of 10.

The problem I have is that sideways universe is writer's room Edited. It's just boring. It doesn't advance the grand plot as far as I can see. We have nothing invested in it other than the characters, who are different anyway, there's no character growth to witness there, and they've made their point that if life is different, the characters make similar choices and mistakes. They could have made that point in two episodes, taking the season to do it character-by-character is like beating us over the head with it.

The best episode of the season was the one focusing on a different character and flashing back in the "real" universe. This season would have been a lot better with a Richard episode, a Widmore ep, a Daniel's Mom ep, a man-in-black episode, a Jacob episode, a Ilana episode, an episode with whateverhisnamethepilot, and a how'd that statue get here episode.

[kchoya]

Mar 31, 2010 11:13:27 GMT -5 TC said:

an episode with whateverhisnamethepilot

Jobe.

[Nevada Hoya]

Jack said Sun had aphasia. But she could still talk, but only in Korean. I had real aphasia after a skull fracture, and I couldn't talk at all. I could write my thoughts, but had trouble with spelling. I couldn't speak in any foreign languages.

Well, will Sun die in the sideways universe? Will the writers make any effort to align the universes or just keep the sideways one as a curiosity?

Good to see Desmond back, but how did he get to be in that state? Widmore is looking less evil than Smocke, but since Desmond is in a terrible condition, Widmore can't be all good.

[Boz]

Just my guesses:

1. Jacob and his acolytes and eventual candidate want to keep the island intact as the cork that keeps the wine in. A noble goal, but in order to do so, they have to keep testing and killing people.....and call it progress.

2. Widmore wants to destroy the island and MIB/Locke with it. A noble goal, but we have seen Widmore stoop to pretty nefarious acts to achieve this goal.

3. MIB/Locke wants to escape the island in order to breathe free. A noble goal, perhaps, but one that, if we are to believe Jacob, will destroy the world. And we've also seen MIB/Locke stoop to nefarious actions to achieve his goal.

So, no real "good guys," per se, just varying degrees of means vs. ends strategies and tactics.

Is there a fourth player? Desmond? Probably not.
(Miles, maybe, who just wants to be rich. A noble goal, but he has to dig up Nikki and Paulo to do it. )



Oh, and here is your mind-bender of the week, courtesy of Doc Jensen:

- What if the Desmond they brought off the sub is SIDEWAYS DESMOND???

(But I think that theory is based on the fact that there seemed to be little recognition in Mr. Hume's eyes when he saw Sayid. Me? I attribute that to a too heavy dose of tranqs.)

And finally, are we sure that Desmond is "the package"??

They certainly wanted us to infer that, which is my usual red flag that something is off. Maybe the "package" is Charlie, and Desmond had to be drugged to keep him from disrupting that.

[Buckets]

The real moral of this week's episode is that if you mess around with a magnate's daughter and then try to get into his good graces by crossing the Pacific to doing something dangerous that you hope will impress him, you're definitely going to end up getting kidnapped.

Not a great episode, mostly because it focused on two characters that no one really likes and we didn't learn much. All we learned was that the $25,000 was for Keamy to kill Jin, and that Sayid eventually frees Jin; neither detail was exactly earth-shattering.

I'm trying to figure out who the six remaining episodes are. Desmond is next week and I have to imagine they give Hurley a sideways episode, and that might be it for sideways universe (at least as far as centric episodes). Jacob/MIB need a flashback, but what else? There's a lot of stuff that needs to be answered in the regular universe and we've got less than 6 hours of airtime left AND we still have to fight some sort of war.

[Just Cos]

I'm struggling with the current candidates. I have these active ones (connected to Oceanic flight):

Yes
- Shepard (Jack, his dad, Aaron?)
- Reyes (Hurley)
- Kwon (Sun, Jin, or child?)
- Ford (Sawyer)

Were on list at cave but now not sure:
- Jarrah (Sayid)
- Locke

Confirmed No:
- Kate
- Claire

[Boz]

Small correction:

There are 6 regular episodes left and then the 2-hour series finale, so technically, they have 8 hours to sort everything out.

And yes, they will almost certainly leave at least some major mysteries until those final two hours. They'd be dumb not to.


Second minor correction:

Kate is not a confirmed no, I don't think, because her name was on the lighthouse, I'm pretty sure.

True, Locke said last night that her name wasn't on the cave wall (and we didn't see it in any of the screen shots), but then again, are you gonna' take Locke's word for it?

[Just Cos]

I thought Locke/MIB said Kate was not a candidate? Although it was Locke/MIB who said it.

[richfame]

TC is 100 percent correct regarding what the episodes should have been.

The problem is not much of interest really happens, im 30 minutes threw the show and I like wow something good better happen, then in the last 2 minutes BAM something cool happens. Thats not rewarding enough though.

Secondly, the show is way to fragmented. I really like when Jack was at odds with Sawyer or Lock, or when Ben was tormenting Jack and teh castaways. Ben, Jack are hardly in these epsiodes.

The only cool episode was the Richard episode and that left me wanting more. For example the whole ww2 or Dharma era, they just went by that.

The only thing is we see we are coming to a big war: So it seems that its widmore vs smokey. So no widmore is good? widmore and ben onthe same side? I thought they were at odds?

The show better pick up from start to finish.. Anyways just my 2 cents!

[HoyaSC]

Mar 31, 2010 13:14:59 GMT -5 Boz said:

Just my guesses:

1. Jacob and his acolytes and eventual candidate want to keep the island intact as the cork that keeps the wine in. A noble goal, but in order to do so, they have to keep testing and killing people.....and call it progress.

2. Widmore wants to destroy the island and MIB/Locke with it. A noble goal, but we have seen Widmore stoop to pretty nefarious acts to achieve this goal.

3. MIB/Locke wants to escape the island in order to breathe free. A noble goal, perhaps, but one that, if we are to believe Jacob, will destroy the world. And we've also seen MIB/Locke stoop to nefarious actions to achieve his goal.

So, no real "good guys," per se, just varying degrees of means vs. ends strategies and tactics.

This is what I like best about Lost. We're six hours from the end of a six-season show and we still don't know who the good guys are. I really hope they don't go for some mind-blowing tell-all ending. I love the ambiguity.

[jgalt]

why the hell would penny go with him. Her first thought is "Sure ill have coffee with him"?!?!?! Mine would be "Rape, i am going to be raped now."

Also so glad someone on this effing island has quit taking his Cynicism pill, maybe will get some answers now.

Finally i was hoping, after the first line of the preview, that next weeks episode would just be Hurley standing in that graveyard for an hour while each dead character comes back and curses him out- best hour of my life.

[TC]

I liked how Jin didn't lift a finger as they forced Desmond into a shack that a guy just melted in. Seriously? He can't even struggle and get whacked in the back of the head?

Overall this episode was really good though and I give it 9 bassists with a deathwish ironically hanging out with the guy who had to save him from death multiple times out of 10.

[Boz]

Last night's episode reminded me of the Buffy episode where Cordelia wished to Anya the vengeance demon that Buffy had never come to Sunnydale.

Or the Buffy episode where Jonathan cast a spell to make him the most famous person in the world, and altered everyone's memories.

Or the Buffy episode where Xander had a doppelganger who was a rich, successful businessman.

Or the Buffy episode where.......well, you get the idea.


Good stuff. I mock because I love.


Looking forward to Hurley pulling everything together for me next week.

[HoyaSinceBirth]

Great Episode.

We finally got confirmation that the Alternate reality matters and means something.
Desmond is starting to see between the worlds. As are others.

The main question now is. Is this alternate reality as a result of the nuclear bomb or as a result of what desmond is going to do. I lean towards the latter, but they implied the former last night.

Eloise knows something. She said something about desmond finding penny being a violation. Did they purposeful create this alternate world with certain restrictions. Very intriguing episode. Lost keeps getting better.

[Boz]

I'm not so sure about your first conclusion.

Obviously, I'm just guessing like everyone else, but my first thought was that Eloise (either working with Widmore or not, I'm not sure), set them all on the path to get back to the island with the express intent of them setting off the nuclear device which would create the alternate reality.

That allows her to have her son back -- who she killed -- as well as avoid all of the other unpleasantness that we've seen over the last several seasons.

But like the Buffy episodes I mentioned above, it's not real. It's all a glamour, writ very, very large. And there are certain people, like Desmond, who can penetrate the glamour (I would include her son in this, Charlie because he is also dead, Penny because she and Desmond are each other's constants, Miles though we haven't seen it yet, and -- as I expect to discover next week -- Hurley.

Actually, I think eventually anyone can penetrate a glamour (and we'll start seeing that soon too). These are people who have a better talent for it, for one reason or another.

So, Eloise's comments were very revealing. She knows Desmond will start to see the cracks, has already started to see the cracks, and she can't let that happen and has to keep him away from Penny until she can prepare him to go along with the illusion.

She also said "What happened, happened." Obviously, this is exactly what Daniel said when they were time skipping, but in Eloise's case, it is a lie. What happened didn't actually happen.

What any of this has to do with the ultimate battle between Widmore, MIB and the Jacobytes I don't know yet, but I'm fairly confident that, while almost certainly not 100% accurate, this is pretty close to what is going in in Sideways world.


Last night's episode also maybe told me that we might not be done yet with my favorite ginger, Charlotte, which I like. But of course, that begs my one track mind question: "Where is LIBBY?!?!?"

Again, I hope to get that answer next week in the Hurley-sode.