kghoya
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
Posts: 5,046
|
Post by kghoya on Jul 18, 2009 23:52:53 GMT -5
what is van up to?
|
|
|
Post by jerseyhoya34 on Jul 19, 2009 0:02:28 GMT -5
And Hall and Oates to round out the multiple screen names of PBR and John Basedow.
|
|
|
Post by summersshowers on Jul 19, 2009 4:33:05 GMT -5
a few scattered responses to what might be the most worthless thread i've ever seen on this board: 1) re: marquette - obviously they have good attendance, the school is in milwaukee for chrissakes. you know what a fun thing to do there is? pack up your s*** and leave. 2) re: national recognition - you do know that the georgetown men's basketball team was black america's team in the 1980s? gtown bball was and still is an institution in the world of popular culture. i refer this twit to the hbo doc on the villanova/gtown championship in 85 (incredible watch if you haven't seen it: www.imdb.com/title/tt0457097/). there's a good soundbyte from spike lee in there where he says something along the lines of "you were a nobody if you didn't own a georgetown starter jacket." i'd also be willing to bet that georgetown gets more shoutouts in hip hop songs than any other university. basketball being synonymous with hip hop culture in america, this counts for something in my book. 3) re: gtown's lack of savage drinkers - considering your obvious ignorance on this subject, i feel it justifiable to disregard anything else you have to say, but i'll refute some of your other vacuous claims because i'm jobless and feel so inclined to. 4) re: why kids choose georgetown - i got into schools that were very similar to gtown in terms of size/prestige/academics/location/etc and a couple that the talking heads would say are "better." but gtown was an obvious choice. why? plain and simple: we have an elite basketball program and the other schools didn't (but i'm sure i'm the ONLY student who has ever chosen gtown along those lines...). lucky me, i was rewarded with a freshman year trip to atlanta to watch the hoyas play in the final four. experience of a lifetime, despite the loss? absolutely. 5) re: basketball players being outcasts - i'm sure the lopez brothers were the two most easygoing, accessible guys at stanford, right? this isn't even worth addressing. but for what it's worth, i've seen almost every player i've gone to school with on the rooftops, at parties, at qdoba, etc. and you know what? they're always very friendly and approachable and -gasp!- actually like to be around normal people and even act like them, too! 6) re: early exits - i guess i missed the part where it's a bad thing for the program if you're producing talent elite enough to leave early to play at the next level? and as for transfers, almost all of them left (it would seem) due to a lack of playing time. not because they wanted to play for better, more elite teams, but because they couldn't get off the bench at our second-rate program. you're a troll. go post on the cuse boards if you're looking for some allies.
|
|
PopeJohn2
Golden Hoya (over 1000 posts)
Ultimate bailout is yet to come and unavoidable. Uncle Sam gonna pay your debt for you!
Posts: 1,465
|
Post by PopeJohn2 on Jul 19, 2009 9:30:07 GMT -5
LMAO! and you guys think im negative???
saxa23, speaking just for myself, i think what you may not have accounted for is that iii is a visionary with a plan and knowing him pretty well (which im not sure you do) i believe he can make us a dominant program once again like his father. just has to work out the kinks in the formula. give him time and see.
|
|
|
Post by hoyawatcher on Jul 19, 2009 11:11:14 GMT -5
Just for completeness - if Duke had a coliseum the same size as GU's venue they would not fill it for all their games either. UNC for sure but not many of their OOC and low end ACC games.
NC State is just down the road from Duke with a similar sized venue and they can't fill it for most games.
GU would be better off with a smaller venue - preferably on campus - but I know that discussion has been had.
|
|
|
Post by hoyaheaven on Jul 19, 2009 13:15:51 GMT -5
I may be the Board's resident pessimist...but this poster--read soporific preacher--is a loser's dream.
With that attitude there'd never be a Georgetown.
|
|
FLHoya
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Proud Member of Generation Burton
Posts: 4,544
|
Post by FLHoya on Jul 19, 2009 13:43:45 GMT -5
Just for completeness - if Duke had a coliseum the same size as GU's venue they would not fill it for all their games either. UNC for sure but not many of their OOC and low end ACC games. Actually, the Dean Dome has a higher capacity than Verizon Center. Dean Dome holds 21,750, Verizon 20K and change.
|
|
seaweed
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Posts: 4,700
|
Post by seaweed on Jul 19, 2009 17:19:12 GMT -5
I thought this was HoyaTalk, not the Wailing Wall?
NB re transfers- Georgetown is a tough place to go to school, especially if you are a kid looking for glory and not hard work on and off the courts.
Pash is officially eligible for "Top Post of the Off Season" Award; HS23 is officially dead to me.
|
|
Boz
Blue & Gray (over 10,000 posts)
123 Fireballs!
Posts: 10,355
|
Post by Boz on Jul 20, 2009 8:47:56 GMT -5
Apropos of nothing--well, maybe the title of the thread--anybody have an update on how former poster "doseofreality" is doing these days? I mean, if we're gonna do Hoya Basketball brought to you by The Smiths, we might as well go full-out and bring back some of the favorites from the good old days of retro Hoyatalk. P.B.R...John Basedow...heck, let's even revoke Van's lifetime ban (okay, self-imposed, but still). Not fair, FL. Morrissey is far more optimistic and life affirming than certain posters we have here. Might I suggest Soren Kierkegaard? ;D I also think we have a new board phenomenon to add to our list, to go along with Godwin's law and similar recurring themes. Whenever a poster -- particularly a new one -- begins by saying "I have been a lifelong Hoya fan and I love this team more than anyone else......" you can pretty much bet the farm that said poster will then launch into a ridiculously negative diatribe that is only tangentially connected to reality (at best). Anyone have a name we can give to this one? Preferably something clever and insulting?
|
|
theexorcist
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Posts: 3,506
|
Post by theexorcist on Jul 20, 2009 9:28:28 GMT -5
Apropos of nothing--well, maybe the title of the thread--anybody have an update on how former poster "doseofreality" is doing these days? I mean, if we're gonna do Hoya Basketball brought to you by The Smiths, we might as well go full-out and bring back some of the favorites from the good old days of retro Hoyatalk. P.B.R...John Basedow...heck, let's even revoke Van's lifetime ban (okay, self-imposed, but still). Not fair, FL. Morrissey is far more optimistic and life affirming than certain posters we have here. Might I suggest Soren Kierkegaard? ;D I also think we have a new board phenomenon to add to our list, to go along with Godwin's law and similar recurring themes. Whenever a poster -- particularly a new one -- begins by saying "I have been a lifelong Hoya fan and I love this team more than anyone else......" you can pretty much bet the farm that said poster will then launch into a ridiculously negative diatribe that is only tangentially connected to reality (at best). Anyone have a name we can give to this one? Preferably something clever and insulting? "Billy Packer Syndrome".
|
|
PhillyHoya
Golden Hoya (over 1000 posts)
Posts: 2,016
|
Post by PhillyHoya on Jul 20, 2009 9:46:56 GMT -5
I'm imagining something like "whole 'nother level"...
|
|
|
Post by bigelephant on Jul 20, 2009 9:50:50 GMT -5
hoyasaxa23 - What you wrote may (or may not) have been true years ago - but beginning with Ewing era the perception of Hoya basketball changed dramatically and except for a short time between the last few years of Jr's tenure and the beginning of III's arrival, it has been considered an ellite program. You are entitled to your opinion without being called names and without bring the Furies down on you head, but I think you are not giving GU and its student fans anywhere near the credit they deserve.
|
|
Filo
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Posts: 3,920
|
Post by Filo on Jul 20, 2009 10:31:44 GMT -5
You are entitled to your opinion without being called names and without bring the Furies down on you head, but I think you are not giving GU and its student fans anywhere near the credit they deserve. Entitled to his opinion, sure. But getting called out is going to happen when you prove yourself to be nothing but a troll by throwing out stuff like this: The only thing GU is famous for is losing to MJ and for housing Ewing before he entered the league. GU's arena is so big that in the rare event that the fans show up AND ALSO care about the game on the court, it still feels like you are in an empty building. It sucks and forever limits the GU fan experience to mediocrity.
|
|
kchoya
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
Enter your message here...
Posts: 9,934
|
Post by kchoya on Jul 20, 2009 10:47:23 GMT -5
Just for completeness - if Duke had a coliseum the same size as GU's venue they would not fill it for all their games either. UNC for sure but not many of their OOC and low end ACC games. Actually, the Dean Dome has a higher capacity than Verizon Center. Dean Dome holds 21,750, Verizon 20K and change. I think he was saying Duke would fill a 20K arena when UNC came in, but not when other schools came to Duke. He wasn't saying UNC would have trouble filling the Dean Dome (last year they averaged 21,035).
|
|
Bando
Golden Hoya (over 1000 posts)
I've got some regrets!
Posts: 2,431
|
Post by Bando on Jul 20, 2009 11:01:11 GMT -5
I just want to once again reiterate my utmost enthusiasm for new posters Let's all just give up in 09-10!!!
|
|
kchoya
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
Enter your message here...
Posts: 9,934
|
Post by kchoya on Jul 20, 2009 11:58:03 GMT -5
I just want to once again reiterate my utmost enthusiasm for new posters Let's all just give up in 09-10!!! Don't you get it Bando, just because someone signed up last month and only has 17 posts doesn't mean they're a newcomer. He or she has been a fan of the program since [the early 80's/the 70's/Elmer Ripley] and they've followed the team and read the message board, but just haven't posted. However, after enjoying the runs to the Sweet Sixteen and Final Four, they feel compelled to come out of the woodwork, get on the Internets, and post about how dire the state of the program is and that we should bring back Lord Voldemort you know who.
|
|
|
Post by hoyawatcher on Jul 20, 2009 12:20:09 GMT -5
Actually, the Dean Dome has a higher capacity than Verizon Center. Dean Dome holds 21,750, Verizon 20K and change. I think he was saying Duke would fill a 20K arena when UNC came in, but not when other schools came to Duke. He wasn't saying UNC would have trouble filling the Dean Dome (last year they averaged 21,035). Yea I think that is what he was saying as well. Duke would fill a 20K + facility for big games such as UNC but not for their mid level games and below (FSU or NCCU).
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2009 12:37:32 GMT -5
I think he was saying Duke would fill a 20K arena when UNC came in, but not when other schools came to Duke. He wasn't saying UNC would have trouble filling the Dean Dome (last year they averaged 21,035). Yea I think that is what he was saying as well. Duke would fill a 20K + facility for big games such as UNC but not for their mid level games and below (FSU or NCCU). Um...yes they would.
|
|
hoyarooter
Blue & Gray (over 10,000 posts)
Posts: 10,434
|
Post by hoyarooter on Jul 20, 2009 12:46:19 GMT -5
Not fair, FL. Morrissey is far more optimistic and life affirming than certain posters we have here. Might I suggest Soren Kierkegaard? ;D I also think we have a new board phenomenon to add to our list, to go along with Godwin's law and similar recurring themes. Whenever a poster -- particularly a new one -- begins by saying "I have been a lifelong Hoya fan and I love this team more than anyone else......" you can pretty much bet the farm that said poster will then launch into a ridiculously negative diatribe that is only tangentially connected to reality (at best). Anyone have a name we can give to this one? Preferably something clever and insulting? "Billy Packer Syndrome". Doosh of Reality? (with apologies to the much missed dose).
|
|
|
Post by hoyawatcher on Jul 20, 2009 13:41:07 GMT -5
Yea I think that is what he was saying as well. Duke would fill a 20K + facility for big games such as UNC but not for their mid level games and below (FSU or NCCU). Um...yes they would. I worked in Durham for years and went to several Duke games (not a member of Iron Dukes though by any stretch). But there are simply not enough Duke alums and hard core fans in Durham or the RTP area to routinely fill a 20K + facility. Duke is a great national team but from a number of fans perspective they are number 3 in the RTP area. If Duke or K really wanted a 20K facility it would magically appear tomorrow. K commands that those types of resources - it took no time to get the palace of a BB practice facility he wanted on prime land right next to Cameron. Looking simply at the numbers, if Duke built a 20K facility it would be the third 20K+ coliseum in the RTP metro area which only has slightly north of 1 M inhabitants. Those numbers don't work. Back to the original point of my post - GU shouldn't beat itself up for not filling 20K every game. There are several other top BB programs such as Duke that don't have the large local alumni base to do that either.
|
|